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1 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 97469 | ||
Is the UPC a Christian Church? 'IS THE UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH A CHRISTIAN CHURCH? 'The United Pentecostal Church International teaches that there's only one God, and that Jesus is fully God. Can we therefore regard it as a Christian church? 'Although there may possibly be individuals in the United Pentecostal Church who are indeed Christians, we believe that the church as a whole is heretical. Like other pseudo-Christian groups, the United Pentecostal flatly denies the doctrine of the Trinity. It would be inappropriate to argue that Jehovah's Witnesses or various other groups are non-Christian because they deny the doctrine of the Trinity, but that the United Pentecostal Church can reject the Trinity and still be considered Christian.' To read more go to: (www.equip.org/free/CP0603.pdf) |
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2 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | DarcyA | 97474 | ||
I can't say that the UPC in a whole are not saved. (niether would I want to judge them no desire to) They serve the same God, the same Jesus as we do. There so called denying of the trinity. They don't really deny the trinity. They claim they do until you take a look at them. There problem with the trinity. Is that they think triniturians serve 3 gods and the One true God. There are problems in their Doctrines. But I cannot base rather saved or unsaved on that. Nor do I have any desire to do that. No where in scripture does it say Believe in trinity to be saved. It says believe in Jesus to be saved. Jesus is 100 percent God 100 percent Human. The UPC know this and state this. The Jehovah Witnesses do not. according to them Jesus is a mere angel. In Conclusion I have no desire to judge on them being saved or not saved only God knows the answer to this. PS anyway we can convince lockman to allow as to use the percent sign, along with the other symbols? :) |
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3 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 97479 | ||
DarcyA: If the UPC does not deny the Trinity, then neither do the JWs. You can't have it both ways. Since the UPC itself says it denies the Trinity and since I do not have any way to look into the thoughts and intents of another person's heart, then all I can go by is what they SAY. And what they SAY is that they deny the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity is one of the essential doctrines of the Christian faith. One cannot be a Christian and reject one of the essentials. When anyone believes or teaches that the Father is not God or that the Holy Spirit is not God, then that person neither worships nor serves the God of the Bible -- who is one God in three Persons, not one God in one Person. Any way to convince Lockman to allow us to use the percent sign and other symbols? I doubt it! One possibility is that the disallowed characters might be read as programming code and would thus interfere with the normal operation of the programs. But that is only MY OPINION. :-) Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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4 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | DarcyA | 97481 | ||
The Jws believe in a different Jesus, they believe he is an angel and son of God. They believe that Jesus is a god (John 1:1) NWT not The God. UPC believe he is 100 percent God. and also the Son. ...Since the UPC itself says it denies the Trinity and since I do not have any way to look into the thoughts and intents of another person's heart, then all I can go by is what they SAY. And what they SAY is that they deny the Trinity. I have no desire to judge on if someone is saved or not. Only God can do that and I praise God for it. The doctrine of the Trinity is one of the essential doctrines of the Christian faith. One cannot be a Christian and reject one of the essentials Would have to disagree with you to Romans 10:9, John 3:16, state otherwise. If it was essential for salvation the word trinity would be found in the bible. The Gospel is the simpliest thing every and the most perfect. What you need to do to be saved is printed in the page of Scripture. And you must believe in "trinity" is no wheres to be found in scripture. So I would have to disagree with you there. I'm not defending the UPC doctrine. But I am not judging Christian or not niether. I don't want to set at the Judgment and be judged the same way I judge if I did Judge them on salvation. In Christ, Darcy PS I used that percent sign yet again! |
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5 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 97485 | ||
'What is Christianity? 'When it gets to mere Christianity, the basics and fundamentals are rather few. All Christians agree on the basics and fundamentals. If they don't, they are not called Christians. ( . . . ) '[For example,] this is what separates Mormons from Christians. Mormons disagree on those fundamental issues and that is why they have to be called something other than Christian. ' . . . The fundamental truth claims of Christianity as a whole are rather basic. Christianity stands or falls on those things, and not on the parochial particulars. 'What are the fundamental truth claims of Christianity? 'The particulars of mere Christianity entail four basic things: '1. Your view of God , '2. your view of creation , '3. your view of man , and '4. your view of salvation .' ____________________ What is Christianity? by Gregory Koukl To read more go to: (http://www.str.org/free/commentaries/theology/whatis.htm) Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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6 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | DarcyA | 97489 | ||
To me a definition of a Christian is as follows: Someone who believes in THE Lord Jesus Christ that He died for your sins He paid the penalty on the Cross and that he rose again on the third day. All others are doctrines, and can be disputed. I believe that you must believe when i say the Lord Jesus Christ. Thazt you must know he iws the son of God, He is God he was born of a virgin lived a sinless life, he bore our sins on the cross. According to the Bible their is no other belief that someone must have in order to be saved. Paul said I come knowing nothing but Christ and Him crucified. The problem with Orthodox christianity as a whole, Cults, other religions is that they say you must believe in other things than Christ and Him crucified. All other true doctrines are for awards in heaven false doctrines I believe will cause you to lose them. 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. They have nothing to do with Salvation or Christian, according to the bible has to do with awards. The Gospel message is so simple so perfect nothing needs to be added to it. |
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7 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 97496 | ||
You are not saying that as long as a person claims to believe in Jesus then he can believe anything else he wants to and still be saved, are you? Perhaps our problem in this thread is that we are both using some of the same words, but we do not agree on what those words mean or how they are defined. Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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8 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | DarcyA | 97502 | ||
Claim belief in the Jesus of the Bible and repented. then have false doctrines. Yes I am saying he is saved. I am not convinced on all the Orthdox Christian views. Do i state my salvation on that? No!, I Jesus is my salvation. I'm pretty sure when I get to the bema seat of Christ, I might get a few kicks I am sure that not everything I believe is actual truth. The only absolute truth I have is in the Lord Jesus Christ. In the book of Acts Peter thought that the gentiles was not going to get the gospel. He even said to Jesus "Lord, not so" Jesus didn't say don't call me Lord, or Peter you are not saved because this was one of my teaching for to go into all the nations and preach the gospel. Jesus did not say that. | ||||||
9 | Is the UPC a Christian Church? | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 97508 | ||
As long as you are defining the words, you will never be wrong or mistaken. :-) --Radioman2 |
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