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1 | Until | Matt 1:25 | Dalcent | 135261 | ||
Why do you think he kept her a virgin 'until' or 'till' the birth of Christ proves that Mary lost her virginity after Jesus' birth? Mat 1:25 And he knew her not till she brought forth her first born son: and he called his name Jesus. Normal English usage (which is what the translators work toward) is why you misunderstand this verse. Translations are not infallible. The phase is first-century Greek. If translators ‘transliterate’ idioms and something is lost they’re wrong. Jerome’s argument, you know: “it was usual among the Hebrews to denote by the word UNTIL only what is done, without any regard to the future.” What you don’t know is that he proves it conclusively by scripture, that this usage is REPEATEDLY seen elsewhere in the Bible: Gen 8:6-7 At the end of forty days Noah opened the window of the ark that he had made and sent forth a raven. It went to and fro UNTIL the waters were dried up from the earth. Did it come back when the waters were dried up from the earth? The OT words I give in BOLD each time is the Hebrew word ‘ad’ H5704 Isaiah 46:4 EVEN to your old age I am he, and to gray hairs I will carry you. I have made, and I will bear; I will carry and will save. Does God then cease to be? 1Maccabees 5:54 And they went up to mount Sion with joy and gladness, and offered holocausts, because not one of them was slain, TILL they had returned in peace. Where they slain after returning in peace? Luk 20:42-43 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms: The Lord said to my Lord, sit thou on my right hand, till(heos) I make thy enemies thy footstool. Does Jesus no longer sit at the Father’s right hand at this point? Mat 1:25 again, but knew her not until(heos) she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus. Nothing is implied about 'afterwards' in Jewish usage in ALL of the examples. They are all fair examples too. Words in foreign language are simply not always exactly translatable to exact equivalents in other languages. Dalcent. |
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2 | Until | Matt 1:25 | DocTrinsograce | 135269 | ||
Having been informed of the divine origin of Mary's pregnancy, Joseph was no doubt honoring what was holy. It puzzles me that one might suppose that two people who were so obviously obedient to the Lord would have an abnormal marriage. | ||||||
3 | Until | Matt 1:25 | flinkywood | 135271 | ||
Doc, The Essenes practised celibate marriage, so it was not unheard of. Also consider the converse of your argument: the marriage was abnormal because they were obedient to the Lord; it was, after all, the most abnormal conception in history. Colin |
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4 | Until | Matt 1:25 | DocTrinsograce | 135275 | ||
Hmmm... "not unheard of" does not necessarily imply normalcy, let alone blessedness. | ||||||