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1 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | justme | 171066 | ||
I would like to remind anyone who reads this thread tha Paul said to the married not to deprive one another, because it makes us open to sin. Now lets not become so legalistic to think this man even considered he was putting her open to temptation. Marriage was made offical by the groom showing the blood on the sheets in the OT, when the marriage was consumated. We would not dream of such a thing now. However if for what ever reason either partner does not want or can not consumate the marriage, then it is not a marriage, and it should be desolved if either is unhappy and feels they are not married with out sexual union. I think it is very unsensitive, and so legalistic to say this person should remain with a person who commited fraud in not telling their furture partner of his inability before taking any vows. For those who would put such a burden on someone saying they are doomed in such a situation, remind me of the religious leaders Jesus was attempting to get them to see the light. My oh my, I just can't believe 25 notes to reslove this issue. I WISH THIS MANY WOULD ANSWER A REAL BIBLE QUESTION!!! Is it because it has sex involved that so many jump in? I fear so! When someone askes for information and they are refered to the "Search Box" and let some question like this come up and 25 of you jump in, then something is sure WRONG ! This just should not be, I am saddened in deed! Justme |
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2 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 171072 | ||
Justme, You accuse others of being "unsensitive"; yet you insinuate that nana's very real situation and question is not a "real bible question". What is wrong with you? Furthermore, you offer not a bit of Scripture to support your "opinion". Again, what is wrong brother? Have we touched on a point of sensitivity for you? Where you do point to Scripture you offer no book, chapter, and verse for reference. I am not aware of a custom where marriage was "made official by the groom showing the blood on the sheets in the OT, when the marriage was consumated". Will you please point me to that custom in the bible? I am not an authority on the bible, it may in fact be there; but I do not find that custom anywhere including in the many dictionaries, encyclopedias, and commentaries I referred to. You wrote: "I think it is very unsensitive, and so legalistic to say this person should remain with a person who commited fraud in not telling their furture partner of his inability before taking any vows" sometimes the word of God seems that way to us. We easily forget that His holiness is not superseded by our sensitivities. When we do not fear God, then our feelings about what is right and wrong and what we want and don't want become our standard. We excuse our way out of obedience. You write that you are saddened. Well my brother, I am very saddened and disappointed at your post. Your profile indicates that you are of an age that should supersede such a childish response. With deepest sincerety, Jeff |
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3 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | justme | 171076 | ||
Jeff: You are young enough to offer your response with some kind od respect, and I see no Scripture used by you either. That does not mean what you say is not Biblical. Frankly Jeff, I am pleased to be asked to respond to you, that's good to challenge me. Please read my response to Humbledbyhisgrace. Then Respond back. I will be most pleased to engage in a respect, kind, open dialogue. Blessings. Justme |
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4 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 171078 | ||
Justme, I am not here to argue with you like children on a playground. My response to you was with the level of respect that your post warrented. Please reread your first post in this thread and then consider the issue of respect. You might consider the word dignity as well. This is a biblestudy forum. If you are not interested in a thread other than to insult the members participating, a good strategy is to click the "HOME" button and choose another thread to follow and/or participate in. Thank you, Jeff |
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5 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | justme | 171097 | ||
Jeff: Tell me where do you see youself in all this? How do your responses dislpay an attituse of reconcillation, mercy, grace, and Christian Love. This is a test of your Christian dignity as well is it not. I fear temper being brought to the serface, and might I ask on what Biblical example you are asking me to go "home"? If we were going by who has so blunt as to say either believe as me or leave, then there only one so far as to make such a suggestion. I personally believe ther is room for any and all who will speak the truth in love. Often the Father shows us His love by dicipline, and Hebrews says it is not pleasent. If I have got you or anyone else to look at the way questions are answered I gladly take the words that wound. Again I see no Scripture to back a single word you speak. Again I suggest you pray before you put a finger on the key board. Stop and rethink your responsees, is this how I am attempting to bring whatever kind of person (you might think I am) who is attempting to convay a serious message. I assure this is not childs play, I never play at such serious issues. Read over some of my nearly 1700 posts, then draw a better conclusions. Blessings. Justme |
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6 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 171106 | ||
Hello justme, Again I would encourage you to reread your first post in this thread. You might reread my response to you as well; as this response does not demonstrate an accurate reflection of my statements. Attempting to reverse the argument I made to you, and apply it back to me, serves no real purpose. Speaking of attitude, reconcilliation, mercy, grace, and Christian love carries little weight when you do not demonstrate those things. I was not (and do not make a habit) of addressing your teachings or attitude in the 1,699 posts you made before the one I responded to. I was responding only to the one in this thread. Again, read it. It was abusive and disrespectful to say the least. It was also very accusitory towards the brothers and sisters involved. I'm still not quite sure where your comments regarding the post having a focus on the issue of sex came from. You speak of attitude, mercy, grace, and those other things; your original post displayed none. To reemphasize my point in my original response to you. I was not asking you to "go home". I was trying to say: If you can not respond to a thread with the attitude of grace, mercy and Christian love, it is better not to respond at all. Therefore, "click" on the "HOME" button (top left) and choose another thread that doesn't offend you so. There was no statement, nor was there an insinuation that if you don't "agree" you should leave. If my statement was taken in that context, I appologize. It was not intended that way. You comment "I see no Scripture to back a single word you speak." Please re-read the thread. Much scritpture was offered throughout, by myself and others. Finally Justme, you write: "If I have got you or anyone else to look at the way questions are answered I gladly take the words that wound." Shouldn't this be my statement. It was me that was calling attention to your inappropriate response to the thread. You accurately comment that this is all a test of my Christian dignity as well. Have I failed as being as Christ-like as I can in my response to you. Yes I have, forgive me for that. Does my failing excuse or futher lagitimize your oringinal post in this thread? No it doesn't. Who is wrong? It would appear that we both are. Perhaps we should both take your advice to pray before putting a finger on the keyboard. I see that you have attached another post after this one. I have not read it yet but promise to. I may not respond to it though, as it appears to me that the continuation of this type of dialogue is neither productive (for the forum as a whole) nor the intended purpose of the forum. Feel free to email me if you would like, for this or any other discussion. My email address is included in my profile. If I have offended you I do appologize. You are my brother and I have confidence that this type of disagreement will not permanently divide us. Christ's Love, Jeff |
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7 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | justme | 171118 | ||
Jeff: Gal. 5:6..."The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love." NIV. There comes a time when there is such vain effort to defend ones point that love is ignored. That is and was my point. Show me where you are headed with love as the objective? I read in your profile you respect the views and oppinions of others. I have not seen anything but attacks from you. Your post is offensive. I find it very difficult to believe your appology is ment in a spirit of brotherly concern, say nothing of Christian love. I will not say something that will impress others who read this. I do feel this is much more that a "type of disagreement". I remind you Paul and Barnabas had a very serious split. I am open and honest to say until the Lord interviens we are very divided. When you sign off "Christ's Love" you need to use this ending in a more honest way. Justme |
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