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1 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | justme | 171066 | ||
I would like to remind anyone who reads this thread tha Paul said to the married not to deprive one another, because it makes us open to sin. Now lets not become so legalistic to think this man even considered he was putting her open to temptation. Marriage was made offical by the groom showing the blood on the sheets in the OT, when the marriage was consumated. We would not dream of such a thing now. However if for what ever reason either partner does not want or can not consumate the marriage, then it is not a marriage, and it should be desolved if either is unhappy and feels they are not married with out sexual union. I think it is very unsensitive, and so legalistic to say this person should remain with a person who commited fraud in not telling their furture partner of his inability before taking any vows. For those who would put such a burden on someone saying they are doomed in such a situation, remind me of the religious leaders Jesus was attempting to get them to see the light. My oh my, I just can't believe 25 notes to reslove this issue. I WISH THIS MANY WOULD ANSWER A REAL BIBLE QUESTION!!! Is it because it has sex involved that so many jump in? I fear so! When someone askes for information and they are refered to the "Search Box" and let some question like this come up and 25 of you jump in, then something is sure WRONG ! This just should not be, I am saddened in deed! Justme |
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2 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 171067 | ||
Greetings justme! You said "I would like to remind anyone who reads this thread tha Paul said to the married not to deprive one another, because it makes us open to sin." How exactly does that give any weight to your argument? You are completely dogmatic in your post and not the first verse of scripture to back it up. Not to mention your assumption that sex is what draws someone's interest to the thread is unacceptable. Based on your own comments it appears the sex part is your only concern not that its what motivated others in the thread. " I think it is very unsensitive, and so legalistic to say this person should remain with a person who commited fraud in not telling their furture partner of his inability before taking any vows. For those who would put such a burden on someone saying they are doomed in such a situation, remind me of the religious leaders Jesus was attempting to get them to see the light." You think it is, but where in scripture do you base your opinion? Is your feelings what should guide others on this matter? Also, who are you to condemn anyone because you disagree with them? At least others who have worked through the discussion have pointed to scripture. Right or wrong in their interpretation at least they are looking to the word of God for the answers. You said " We would not dream of such a thing now. However if for what ever reason either partner does not want or can not consumate the marriage, then it is not a marriage, and it should be desolved if either is unhappy and feels they are not married with out sexual union." Question, what is there to dissolve if there is not a marriage? And where do you find that teaching in scripture? Your post is completely full of your own opinion and made-up doctrine based on your own feelings of how things should be. At least without scripture to backup your arguments who do you really expect to take you serious? Steve PS. Just so you know, there are some (at least there is one, me!) that is following along with this thread to better understand what the word of God has to say on this issue. So far, there appears to be two opinions. One side of the discussion points to scripture the other simply gives unfounded personal opinions. Humm.... |
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3 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | justme | 171074 | ||
Humbledbyhisgrace: Thank you for responding to my post. I can see,I assumed that more Christians where familar with the topic of divorce and marriage, and therefore I made the assumption the Scripture I used, though not quoted would be understood. 1 Cor.7:1-5 and noteworthy is verse 5. There Paul says not to deprive one another except by agreement. The reason is so Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. In this situation by not informing his bride to be, of his physical, or emotional, and or mental handicap of not being hetrosexual, is fraud. Had she been given all his limitations, then she could have made a choice in the matter. To mislead her in the belief that he was capable to fulfill his duty to his wife is unbiblical, and not to mention illegal. Jesus did say we were to honest and truthful and a husband it to cleve to his wife, did He not? How can one cleve and become one flesh with such deceitfulness? (Matt. 19:5) Can anyone say that this is a Biblical union? If someone keeps secret something that is of such great signifance that means there can be no fruit of their union, (children) is that something that the future wife has the Biblical right to know that truth? The fact that not all of us have the gift of self-control, (I Cor. 7:9) and Paul says it's better to marry than burn. This woman did not have a voice in this very intimate decision that would affect her as a woman in every way. This was not his privledge to make over or for her. I am not condemning those who would weigh Scripture in light of Matt 7:1-6. To condemn a woman who was tricked into marriage, and tell her she has no right to end this which is not a marriage Biblicaly. Also note Deut. 22:13-17 is the Old Testament way of false charges against the bride. There is the Biblical right of a husband and wife to have sexually expectations and fulfillment, of desire and the want of children. The real issue is the woman is resentful because she was deceived, as I read this. If she were willing to stay in this sexless situation and felt there was genuine love between them, that would be an all together a different thing. Many couples have made such adjustments in their marriage because of accidents, illness, and the like. They willing agreed to love each other no matter what life brought into their marriage. This is a willing commitment to each other, and is love in the deepest way. This ceremony they had and vowed to each other, was given by him knowing he was not going to own up to his vows. Sher on the other hand vowed to him sthe same with an honest heart, she was lied to. The Vows were never consumated, therefor there was no marriage in the Biblical meaning or legal meaning either. this as anything but bondage if someone says she must stay in this simulated false union. Scriptual understanding. Dialogue is to be open to hear what the other person says. To rebuke me in the mannor you have is remarkable. I do not see any Scriptual backing either, but I do understand the basis for your concern. Now let me address why I feel so discouraged with some who answer notes in what I consider a rude mannor. There is more history to the forum than just the 10 months you ahve been involved, and by no means do I mean you are less or more than anyone else. Too many times when a subject cones up that is a littel to close to make someone feel like the person is liberal. they have been refered to the Search box. Often it is said something like, this has been discussed before, or to often. This is a lazy way to dump someone who might not agree with us. For several years I have just held back my positions, as not to cause a landslide against my view of some Scripture. I have been respectful, kind, and even very relaxed and heard the others person say their view that was in a way attacking what I felt needed to be dialogued about. This womans plight was so over stressed and so many responded I could not believe it. Yet a good question about Biblical understanding is often answered by one person, and then at times refered to the "search Box" This is not right, fair or honest to those who might think as we or I do. Consider of the woman caught in adultery were brought tothis forum She just might be stoned to death. personally I no longer pick up stones. I would offer a kindness and show the Love Jesus said we are to have. Steve, you are a young growing Christian, perhaps a word of prayer before you respond to me might have served you better. Blessings. Justme |
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