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1 | Binding and Losing? | Matt 16:19 | quvmoh | 205980 | ||
Greetings, This passage is where Peter openly confesses that Jesus is the Christ. Now, the context isn't Jesus speaking to Peter alone. Notice in verse 13 that he is speaking to all his disciples. Also notice that verse 18 ends with a period. So verse 19 begins a new thought, as it were, still in the context of speaking to the Disciples together. Now, also look at Acts 1:7-8. Here, Jesus has raised from the Dead. He's speaking to his followers and tells them that He has the Authority and will give them the Power. These are two different words in the Greek. Basically, Jesus is saying, I have the Authority and the Ability, but I'm giving you limited power to do these tasks I have for you. This passage in Matthew 16:19 is reflecting this. Jesus is saying, I will have these keys and the power to use them. I will let you have access to them. There is only one set of keys, and Jesus has them. It would be like a Dad tossing his teen age son the car keys on occasion. They still belong to the Dad, and the teenager will return them to the Dad, but in the mean time, they are in the teenager's possession. quvmoh |
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2 | Binding and Losing? | Matt 16:19 | DocTrinsograce | 205985 | ||
Hi, quumoh... I agree with your conclusion, but not with exegesis. The question v15 is directed to all the disciples, hence the Greek pronoun is second person plural. The pronouns in vv17-19 are second person singular. Therefore, He is speaking directly and individually to Peter. Only in v20 does He address the disciples as a group. Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown make this statement regarding v19, "As first in confessing Christ, Peter got this commission before the rest; and with these 'keys,' on the day of Pentecost, he first 'opened the door of faith' to the Jews, and then, in the person of Cornelius, he was honored to do the same to the Gentiles. Hence, in the lists of the apostles, Peter is always first named. ... One thing is clear, that not in all the New Testament is there the vestige of any authority either claimed or exercised by Peter, or conceded to him, above the rest of the apostles -- a thing conclusive against the Romish claims in behalf of that apostle." This latter interpretation appears to be more sound from both hermeneutic and theological standpoints. In Him, Doc |
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3 | Binding and Losing? | Matt 16:19 | quvmoh | 205990 | ||
After looking back, Agreed, Jesus was directing most of his comments to Peter, but as I pointed out, the context shows that Peter wasn't there by himself. The other disciples were there as well. On a number of occasions, Jesus tells the disciples that they will receive access to greater abilities through the Holy Spirit. So while it's directed at Peter, it does not negate the fact that others were listening and would have applied the message to themselves as well. Peter wasn't the only Disciple after the Resurrection to have performed miracles and wonders. quvmoh |
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4 | Binding and Losing? | Matt 16:19 | DocTrinsograce | 206006 | ||
Hi, quumoh.... Greek has very specific pronouns, unlike modern English. Even in "King James" English, the distinction surfaces. The word "ye" would be how you would refer to more than one person, while the word "thee" would be how you would refer to a single person. Like in the South where people say "you all." The other people overhearing this statement directed to Peter would have had no warrant to have applied it to themselves. Indeed, they'd have been linguistically incorrect to have done so. (They heard Jesus speaking to Satan in v23, did they apply that to themselves as well?) Indeed, I find that you are unique in the way you have exegeted this passage. Now, had you, instead, asserted that the disciples applied this to themselves based on Christ's assertion in Matthew 18:18 (where the pronouns agree), then I'd not have disagreed. As I said in my previous post, I agree with your conclusion, but not with your exegesis. A sound exegesis is every bit as important as the soundness of a conclusion. In Him, Doc |
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5 | Binding and Losing? | Matt 16:19 | azurelaw | 206014 | ||
Dear Brother Doc, Thank you. I did not know the difference between "ye" and "thee" until I read your post. Shall I assume "thy" as the possessive pronoun of "thee"? What about "thou"? Shalom Azure |
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