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1 | Tradition Or The Bible? | Matt 15:3 | kalos | 137281 | ||
Catholicism, the Bible, and Tradition "My desire in writing this is not to alienate Catholics nor belittle their beliefs." The Douay-Rheims Bible Matthew 15:3 But he answering, said to them: Why do you also transgress the commandment of God for your tradition? The Douay-Rheims Bible Mark 7:8-9 For leaving the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men, the washing of pots and of cups: and many other things you do like to these. And he said to them: Well do you make void the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition. The Douay-Rheims Bible Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man cheat you by philosophy and vain deceit: according to the tradition of men according to the elements of the world and not according to Christ. Roman Catholicism, the Bible, and Tradition 'One of the great differences between Protestant and Catholic doctrine is in the area of Tradition. The Protestant church maintains that the Bible alone is intended by God to be the source of doctrinal truth (2 Tim. 3:16). The Catholic Church, however, says, "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture make up a single sacred deposit of the Word of God . . ." (Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 97. Note, all citations in this article are from this Catechism). 'The Catholic Church reasons thus: '1. "The apostles left bishops as their successors. They gave them ‘their own position of teaching authority.'" (Paragraph 77) '2. "This living transmission, accomplished through the Holy Spirit, is called tradition..." (Par. 78) '3. "Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence." (Par. 82). 'Within the Catholic scope of Tradition, many doctrines have been "revealed" to the Church over the centuries. For example, there is the veneration of Mary, her immaculate conception and her bodily assumption into heaven. There is also the apocrypha, transubstantiation, praying to saints, the confessional, penance, purgatory, and more. Protestantism as a whole differs with Catholicism in these additions. 'Tradition in the Bible 'The Bible speaks about tradition. Some verses speak for tradition and others speak against it. Of course, the contexts are different and carry different meanings. ... 'In the discussions regarding Tradition between Protestants and Catholics both sets of scriptures are often quoted in order to establish their respective positions. The Protestants often quote Matt. 15:3-6 in opposition to Sacred Tradition. In an appeal to be biblical, many Catholic apologists cite 2 Thess. 2:15 to validate their position on Sacred Tradition. Unfortunately, this amounts to using the Word of God against itself. Clearly, God's word is not contradictory. Rather, it is our understanding that is in error. 'The Bible is for tradition where it supports the teachings of the apostles (2 Thess. 2:15) and is consistent with biblical revelation. Yet, it is against tradition when it "transgresses the commands of God" (Matt. 15:3). By Jesus' own words, tradition is not to transgress or contradict the commands of God. In other words, it should be in harmony with biblical teaching and not oppose it in any way. 'Though the Catholic Church officially states that Sacred Tradition should not and does not contradict Scripture, Protestants see much of the teaching from this Sacred Tradition as doing just that. It isn't enough for the Catholic to say that their church is the true church, that they have the apostolic tradition, that they hold the keys to the truth, and that they have revealed doctrines consistent with biblical revelation. Likewise, it isn't enough for a Protestant to pass judgment upon Catholic doctrines simply because they are Catholic and are derived via Sacred Tradition.' ____________________ http://www.carm.org/catholic/tradition.htm |
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2 | Tradition Or The Bible? | Matt 15:3 | flinkywood | 137301 | ||
Kalos, I've been studying Catholic theology a lot in the last year. Some notes on your citation from carm.org: 1) 2 Tim 3:16 says "profitable", not "necessary" or "essential" "for teaching, for correction..." I also thought this verse substantiated sola scriptura, but I can't say that it does anymore. 2) I've learned that the veneration of Mary goes way back to the very beginning. She is, after all, the Mother of God, of our Lord and Savior, and worthy of veneration (not worship). Surprisingly, Luther Calvin and Zwingli all accepted Marian doctrine full-on. 3) Catholics counter that the "Apocryhal" books aren't "additions", but are integral parts of the Bible accepted universally until Luther excised them 1500 years down the line. From the Catholic vantage, the Lutheran bible is a "subtraction". You're right, it is dumb to judge Protestant or Catholic theology on the bias, especially in light of all the amazing theology emerging from both camps lately. Colin |
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