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1 | Does God approve of slavery? | Lev 25:44 | EdB | 232778 | ||
On the issue of slavery we have to remember there is three forms. Chattel - where the slave is no longer viewed a ss person but rather as a piece of property. Bonded or Bond servant - where a person places himself into a form of slavery to repay a debt. Forced Slavery - Usually as punishment force or captured during a battle or war. God never condoned Chattel Slavery which was what most people think of when they talk of slavery. God always saw the humanity of the slave. Nor did God ever condone the physical abuse that comes to mind when we think of slavery. Bonded slavery was most common spoken of in the Scripture and was used to pay off debts and such. Bond servants had to be released from their service every 7 years the Sabbath year. So if a man was going to accept a bond servant he valued him by how many years of service he would get from him before the Sabbath year when all bond servants had to be released from their pledge. In other words a person entering bond service on year 1 was more valuable than a person on year 6. Many people today see corporate employment as a form of bonded slavery. We agree to work for a certain salary for x number of years and then expect to be set free with a retirement package. Very little difference. The people that oversaw prisoners of war and people enslaved by war were commanded by God to treat them decently and with compassion. Yes it was forced labor but it wasn't the kind to work you to death. Often whenever the particular project or restoration of war damage was completed the slaves were released. It was often used to prevent towns and villages from be wiped out because of the war damage. The captured prisioners were required to help stablize the town back to the way it was before the war. Were there abuses and mistreatments? Yes Sin had entered the world and man often in rebellion to God violated the stipulations God has placed on Slavery. |
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2 | Does God approve of slavery? | Lev 25:44 | Beja | 232779 | ||
EdB, "Chattel - where the slave is no longer viewed a ss person but rather as a piece of property." "God never condoned Chattel Slavery" Lev 22:11 'But if a priest buys a slave as his property with his money, that one may eat of it, and those who are born in his house may eat of his food. Exo 21:20 "If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. Exo 21:21 "If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property. For your consideration. In Christ, Beja |
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3 | Does God approve of slavery? | Lev 25:44 | EdB | 232780 | ||
Beja Thanks for the info but what you are seeing is translation wording to express an idea but the full meaning isn't really seen. In Lev 22:11 the word used is the Hebrew word qinyan 7359 and that Hebrew word isn't even found in the Ex 21:21 verse. In fact the word translated property in Ex 21:21 is talking more of the silver, as used in the purchase rather than the person himself. In Lev 22:11 the word means something that was purchased. Which is exactly what a bond servant is. You purchased his servant hood or ship with a money agreement. But it has even a more reaching meaning. Perhaps the idea is better seen in this excerpt from the Complete Biblical Library Interlinear as it referrences the Hebrew Dictionary. The psalmist extols the Lord as owner of the earth: "The earth is full of Thy possessions" (Ps. 104:24, NASB). The NIV takes qinyan in this verse to be derived from a less common meaning of qanah (i.e., "to create") and translates qinyan as "creatures."Complete Biblical Library Hebrew-English Dictionary - The Complete Biblical Library Hebrew-English Dictionary – Pe-Resh. The Complete Biblical Library But hey if you want to press the point that you think God okayed chattel slavery then knock your socks off. I haven't found anything in scripture that supports that position. And truthfully I find the idea that God okayed something as evil as chattel slavery as being a bit offensive. |
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4 | Does God approve of slavery? | Lev 25:44 | DocTrinsograce | 232781 | ||
Be nice on the forum, please... Pugnacity is not pious, pleasant, palatable, pedagogic, or persuasive. | ||||||
5 | Does God approve of slavery? | Lev 25:44 | EdB | 232783 | ||
Was it Pugnacity or something else? Beja in trying to expand the scope of the discussion cited some verses he felt would do just that. I on the other hand view anything that remotely suggests God views slaves as nothing more than chattel property as a contradiction of scripture. I believe the truth of scripture must always be defended. Using Beja examples I tried to demonstrate how that contradiction may have occurred. I cited the fact that many words used by the translators can and sometimes do suggest things that were never intended in the original language. How we must understand how our mindset plays into this, that when we are trying to establish something we sometimes focus on a word used in a translation of scripture which with our mindset seems to suggest something that the whole of scripture contradicts. This is a very common mistake, often exacerbated by the incorrect usage of Concordances as Original Language Dictionaries and Lexicons. My parting comments in the last paragraph was an attempt to say when we consider all of scripture we see God goes out of His way to insure man under God’s laws never commits the repugnant acts often associated with Chattel slavery. Things like the separation of the young (animal or humans) from parents. God’s law demands humane treatment of both humans and animals, forbidding man or animal from being worked to death or made to suffer. God’s law even forbids the withholding of food or water from slaves, demanding they be given food and water in accordance with their work. So yes I do take any suggestion that God promotes Chattel slavery as offensive to the truth found in scripture and to my sensibilities. Now if I did this in a less than Christian way I do apologize. |
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6 | Does God approve of slavery? | Lev 25:44 | DocTrinsograce | 232784 | ||
Thank you. | ||||||