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1 | "Jehovah Rophe - our Lord and Healer"??? | Ex 15:26 | HHannaJr | 28974 | ||
In Christian circles I have heard the phrase "Jehovah Rophe - our Lord and our Healer". Where are verses in the Bible where the word "Rophe" is found? | ||||||
2 | "Jehovah Rophe - our Lord and Healer"??? | Ex 15:26 | Ray | 29013 | ||
Hi HHannaJr, I am a person who is interested in pronouns of Deity and the capitalization of such. I would agree with your capitalization of the Healer. A reference verse in my Study Bible sent me to Deuteronomy 32:39. I prefer the capitalization in the NKJ here, "Now see that I, even I, am He, And there is no God besides Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any [other] who can deliver from My hand." Bracket word is mine. The context of the passage is that the nations around them were not people of the Lord. Verse 31, "Indeed their rock is not like our Rock, Even our enemies themselves judge this." The Lord says in verse 37, "Where are their gods, The rock in which they sought refuge?" God is our Rock and our Healer; and even our Ruler. I was led also to the only other reference to "healer" in my concordance, Isaiah 3:7. 6"When a man lays hold of his brother in his father's house, saying 'You have a cloak, you shall be our ruler, And these ruins will be under your charge,' 7On that day will he protest, saying, 'I will not be your healer, For in my house there is neither bread nor cloak; You shall not appoint me ruler of the people.'" Compare Isaiah 3 with Luke 12:14. "But He said to him, "Man, who appointed Me a judge or arbiter over you?'" The context there is that the Holy Spirit will guide us and "teach you in that very hour what you ought to say." Contrast that with Isaiah 3:8, "For Jerusalem has stumbled, and Judah has fallen, Because their speech and their actions are against the Lord, To rebel against His glorious presence." So I see an interesting contrast between Luke 12:14 and Isaiah 3:14; but which has little to do with your "Healer" question. I"ll try to find some other verses for you. All I want to point out is that Jesus is our Rock, our Ruler, our Judge, and our Healer. He is the Son of Man but also the Holy Spirit, God with us. Later, Ray |
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3 | "Jehovah Rophe - our Lord and Healer"??? | Ex 15:26 | srbaegon | 29018 | ||
Correction................................. You said "He is the Son of Man but also the Holy Spirit, God with us." That's not quite correct. Jesus Christ is not the Holy Spirit inasmuch as neither of them is the Father. Steve |
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4 | "Jehovah Rophe - our Lord and Healer"??? | Ex 15:26 | Ray | 29043 | ||
Hi srbaegon, I hear you, for this Trinity doctrine is difficult to express "correctly" or understand. However, this Luke 12 passage tells me that Jesus is God and I will not deny that truth. God is concerned with our spiritual inheritances and it is the Spirit that was approached by the man in regard to dividing the family inheritance. But Jesus (God) said to him "Man, who appointed Me a judge or arbiter over you?" In other words, Jesus is saying, "What has that got to do with Me? I am not your judge." Luke 12:5, "But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who after He has killed has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him." So Jesus says to fear the one Spirit. Jesus is a Person of that one Spirit. And He says in verse 8, "...everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man shall confess him also before the angels of God." I can not deny Him before men for then I would be blaspheming against the (Holy) Spirit. That would be blasphemy against God. The parentheses are mine for comparison and contrast of Persons but also to show Oneness. Matthew 12:32 talks about "speaking against the (Holy) Spirit" also. That is against this Son of David, this Man who casts out demons by the spirit of God. Mark 3:28, "Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemies against the (Holy) Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin---because they were saying, 'He has an unclean spirit.'" This is blasphemy against the Spirit Himself. So, Steve, I would rather blaspheme and say that Jesus was not a son of man than to deny that He is God, who is Spirit. Later, Ray |
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5 | "Jehovah Rophe - our Lord and Healer"??? | Ex 15:26 | srbaegon | 29045 | ||
Partial agreement..................... I understand, now, how you were using "Spirit." There is no disagreement that "God is spirit," however I would still shy away from using it the way you have for fear of confusion (mine being a case in point). Lastly, let's not blaspheme either direction. :-) We'll both stay on a better path. Steve |
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