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1 | Where are the people of Dan 11:32 in NT? | Dan 11:32 | benjamite | 35186 | ||
Charles C. Ryrie, in his Study Bible - Antiochus through v. 35, and then Antichrist 36ff (notes on Dan 11:21-35, and 36-45) Of v. 32, 33 - "Some Jews resisted [Antiochus] and were martyred". Jaimeson, Fausset, and Brown, in "Commentary on the Whole Bible", on Dan 11:21ff, and 36ff, basically says the same. (Although, they say of v. 36ff, "The willful king here, though primarily Antiochus, is antitypically and mainly Antichrist." The people of verse 32-33 are "the Maccabees and their followers". A.C. Gaebelein, in his commentary "The Prophet Daniel: A Key to the Visions and Prophecies of the Book of Daniel" (19th edition), says, "While there is no difficulty to prove the historical fulfillment of verses 2-35 it is impossible to locate anything in history which corresponds to verses 36-45." (p. 179-180) Of v. 32ff, "This has reference to the noble Maccabees. There was also suffering and persecution." John F. Walvoord, in "Daniel: the Key to Prophetic Revelation" (c. 1971, 1989 Moody Bible Institute), sees 11:21-35 as referring to Antiochus IV, followed by 11:36ff as referring to the Antichrist (see notes on 11:21-23 and 11:36). Of verse 32, he says, "The continued opposition of Antiochus to the Jewish faith is prophesied in verse 32, indicating how he attempts to corrupt them; but the strong reaction of the Jewish people is indicated in the expression 'but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.'" I hope you don't mind "4 for the price of 2" - I had a little more time to do research for my response. Who are the "many scholars" that believe the split is in v. 31? In Him, Benjamite |
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2 | Where are the people of Dan 11:32 in NT? | Dan 11:32 | Love Fountain | 35211 | ||
Dear Benjamite, ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION. Interpreted by premillennialists as the idolatrous image to be set up by the final Antichrist (the "beast," or "man of lawlessness" of 2 Thess 2:3-4) in the restored Temple at Jerusalem in the latter half of Daniel's seventieth week (Dan 9:27; 12:11). For the first part of the three and one-half days (years) of the prophetic week of years, the Antichrist keeps his covenant with the Jews. At the beginning of the last half of the week he breaks it (Zech 11:16-17), compelling the Jews to worship his image. This is "the abomination (idol) of the desolator" or "the idol that causes desolation" (cf. Dan 11:31; 12:11), inaugurating the period of "Jacob's trouble" (Jer 30:7), a time of terrible suffering to Palestinian Jews of the end time, of which our Lord spoke (Matt 24:15). In Dan 11:31 the reference is to the act of Antiochus Epiphanes, prototype of the final Antichrist, who, in June 168 BC desecrated the Temple at Jerusalem. He built an altar to Jupiter Olympus on the altar of burnt offering, dedicated the Temple to this heathen deity, and offered swine's flesh. Premillennialists maintain that neither Antiochus Epiphanes nor the Romans under Titus in A.D. 70 AD exhausted Daniel's prophecy, which still awaits fulfillment. Amillennial interpretation, however, sees a fulfillment in the advance of the Romans against Jerusalem in A.D. 70 AD with their image-crowned standards, which were regarded as idols by the Jews. (From The New Unger's Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.) ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION A despicable misuse of the Temple of the Lord during a time of great trouble-an event foretold by the prophet Daniel. The phrase is found in Matt 24:15 and Mark 13:14 as a quotation from Dan 11:31 and 12:11. In Daniel, the words mean "the abomination that makes desolate." In other words, Daniel prophesied that the Temple would be used for an "abominable" purpose at some time in the future. As a result, God's faithful people would no longer worship there-so great would be their moral revulsion, contempt, and abhorrence at the sacrilege-and the Temple would become "desolate." According to the verses in the gospels, a similar misuse of the Temple would take place in the future. This would show that a time of great trouble was coming on Judea. People should take warning and flee to the mountains (Matt 24:16; Mark 13:14). Some believe Daniel's prophecy was fulfilled about 165 BC when Antiochus IV (Epiphanes), Greek ruler of Syria, polluted the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem by sacrificing a pig on the holy altar. This sacrificing of an UNCLEAN pig was the worst kind of abomination that could have taken place. These people also believe the prophecy in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark was fulfilled when the Romans sacked the Jewish Temple about A.D. 70 AD. But others believe just as strongly that neither of these prophecies has yet been completely fulfilled. They insist that the abomination of desolation refers to the idolatrous image or the "man of sin" who will take over God's place in the Temple and make people bow down and worship him (2 Thess 2:3-4). According to this interpretation, this will be the final act of sacrilege that marks the beginning of the end time. (from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright (c)1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers) Bless you, Love Fountain |
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3 | Where are the people of Dan 11:32 in NT? | Dan 11:32 | benjamite | 35217 | ||
I accept what you are saying and will comment on this point "Premillennialists maintain that neither Antiochus Epiphanes nor the Romans under Titus in A.D. 70 AD exhausted Daniel's prophecy, which still awaits fulfillment." I would say that the part from 11:36 onward awaits fulfillment. By the way, three (maybe all four) of the references I cited are, in fact, pre-mil - Ryrie, Walvoord, and Gaebelein. Gesundheit, Benjamite |
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4 | Where are the people of Dan 11:32 in NT? | Dan 11:32 | Love Fountain | 35222 | ||
Dear Benjamite, Thank you again for your response. In the Bible we have many examples of things to come which happen in the past so that we are not left untold of what is to come or what has been. History repeats itself into existence of a future occurrence time and time again. So with this in mind, my question still stands, where are the people in Dan 11:32 in the NT? History leads us to believe the Macabbeans in that time as you have stated , but how about the future, which is what my question is focused on? What do you think? Bless you, Love Fountain |
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