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1 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | prayer warrior | 31569 | ||
So that I may fully understand this verse correctly, I have a question. Eze.3:18 states that, If a righteous man(saved person)turns away from God he will Die and go to hell? | ||||||
2 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | Morant61 | 31573 | ||
Greetings Prayer Warrior! The context of Eze. 3:16-19 is very clear. God is speaking to Ezekiel (the prophet) and warning him about his responsiblity to give the message that God has given him to speak. If he gives it, and no one responds, they only have themselves to blame. But, if he fails to warn them, and they die in their sin, then he will be held accountable for not warning them. Eze. 3:20-21 gives the same message but this time the intended audience is the righteous who have strayed. However, the death mentioned is in both cases physical death brought on by disobedience to God's law, not loss of salvation. Thus, this passage is applicable to anyone who is given a message to speak, including the Gospel. However, this passage never says that the one who fails to deliver the message loses his salvation. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | prayer warrior | 31580 | ||
Oh, I am sorry wrong verse, I meant verse 20. It states that the righteous deeds are remembered no more and he shall die in sin. Is not dieing in sin, the punishment of hell? | ||||||
4 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | Morant61 | 31583 | ||
Greetings Prayer Warrior! I thought that was the verse you meant! :-) Again though, I think that the death here is simply physical death, not eternal death. His deeds are remembered no more simply because his sin has tarnished his reputation. Even the Old Testament saints were saved in the same way as we who live after Christ - by faith, not by works. There are many posts on this issue, but the general consesus is that one cannot lose their salvation because of acts of sin. My Calvinistic brother and sisters would say that salvation can neither be lost nor rejected. Those of us from the Arminian perspective (or most of us) would say that it cannot be lost, but it can be rejected. Either way, it an act(s) cannot cause us to lose our salvation. I hope this helps! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | prayer warrior | 31587 | ||
this is the way I under stood it. From the Beginning of Salvation a persons sins are no longer rememberd by God right! So if a person chose to turn away from God and enter back into sin. With out repenting, God remebers no more there righteous deeds. From then on all He sees is sin, not salvation. If a person dies physically before he repents, he dies with out forgiviness. No sinner can enter into heaven. and a dead person can't ask for forgivines after he or she is dead. | ||||||
6 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | Lionstrong | 31631 | ||
Dear Prayer Warrior, Don't you see, then, that what you've written is a salvation by what you do (works), rather than a salvation by what God has done (grace)? Peace, Lionstrong |
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7 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | prayer warrior | 31647 | ||
I firmly believe that when a christian, sins, they have broken fellowship with God, God can not look on sin. If you don't repent of your sins then you can't receive forgiveness. If you don't recieve forgiveness for your sins, and the christian dies physically. They have died in sin. Matt.10:32 tells us whosoever shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But,whosoever shall deny me before men, will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Breaking fellowship to contune in sin are breaking fellowship and denying God's will. denying God. Matt.7:17-23 A parable about two trees, right, Every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, consistently, while a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit contuinally. therefore, the normal and consistent production of fruit, whether good or evil, in a person's life will bear evidence whether or not that life is of God. verse 19 shows the unfruitfull life of the unregenerate who is cast into the fire, which we know is the picture of Hell. Not everyone professing to be a christian is genuinely saved. Even the outward statement of God's Lordship over their lives, in it self is not enough to save the unbeliever apart from true repentence and faith. A genuinely saved person is one that doeth the will of the Father, the greek present tense is suggesting that he is contuinually living in obedience to the will of God in their christian walk for the rest of their life. No I don't believe in salvation by works, it is by grace we are saved. Jesus is the only door. but He also says faith without works is dead. in Matt 10:22 Jesus said he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Eze.3:20. The righteous deeds are remembered no more. |
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8 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | Lionstrong | 31706 | ||
Hello Prayer Warrior, Your understanding of the Christian life is clearly a salvation by works and has nothing to do with what Christ did on the cross for his people. The Christian life you describe totally negates the purpose for which Christ came--to save sinners. OK, what we're really talking about, I think, can be expressed in different ways: How ought Christians to deal sin in their life? or, Now that I'm saved, now what? or If I'm not saved by good works, does it matter that I do good works now that I'm saved? The issue that you're dealing with, Warrior, is important, because Christ does not save his people TO sin, but FROM it. (Rom 6) And although we're not saved BY our good works, we're saved FOR good works. (Eph 2:8-10) The verses that you shared are good verses, but maybe... the framework in which you are putting these verses is as if the good life of a believer is not the product of God's grace through faith. I mean you talk about repentance as if it weren't given to us by the grace of God. The Bible says: 2 Tim. 2:25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth... Acts 11:18 And when they heard this, they quieted down, and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life." Warrior, you put a terrible burden on yourself if you think it depends on you to live the Christian life successfully. It depends on God, because, "..it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.(Rom. 9:16) But worse, as I said, it dishonors the work of Christ on the cross. Jude 1:24 ΒΆ Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy, Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen. Peace, Lionstrong |
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9 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | prayer warrior | 31753 | ||
No, I don't believe in works saving a person, you all misunderstood my statement, I know my salvation comes from my Lord Jesus, and from Him alone, All I am saying is the when a christian sins, and sometimes they do, they have to accept responsiablity for their actions by confessing their sin. Keeping a right relationship with Jesus is important. I must apoloigize to you all. Somehow I was misunderstood. I didn't save my self, and never could. I was dieng and on my way to hell when Jesus called me unto salvation. It seems, that you all think I said, I saved my self, by living right. I am sorry if I gave that impression, it was not ever meant to be conceived that way. Let me explain by giving the verses I base my beliefs on. I believe in ALL the bible and what it says. James 2:18,20 v18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works; show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works. v20 But,wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? This, dear brothers and sisters in Christ, is what I have been trying to say, but, said it wrong, as I do at times. God requires us to live a Holy life, and through His strength we can, as stated in Phillipians 4:13 v13 says I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me. I must say you all are well up on your studies, and I can see you all have passion for Jesus Christ our Lord. I thank you all for the direction you have given, and it was appreciated, for I can see that your love for others in seen, by your response, to try to correct, what you thought, was a christian in error. John 3:16 is very dear to me and believe me I know all that he suffered, and did so that I may receive salvation. Again, thank you and God Bless. |
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