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1 | Judgement does not heal abuse. | Jer 5:31 | Hatshepsut | 86523 | ||
This is a note to Scribe. Your comment concerning the church and abuse seemed pretty judgemental. Actually, that is part of the problem. Abuse is not a denominational or sectarian issue. It is not even an issue of whether or not a person is born again. You are throwing out the baby with the bath water. We are born of the spirit( Genesis 1:26,27; John 3:1-5). We are also clothed in our physical bodies (Genesis 2:7;John 3:6). If we are honest with ourselves, we will admit that, though our spirits are redeemed, our souls are in a continual state of redemption. The Bible says that we must "work out our own soul's salvation". Romans tells us to be renewed (born again) in our minds, not our spirits. None of us is guiltless, even those who have been saved by grace. While neither I nor God condone my husband's former behavior or my pastor's negligence, their salvation is not in question. Scribe, of all the churches you were in, I'm sure you do not know how many women were frightened into silence. Do you know the signs of an abusive relationship? Do you know that 1 in every 6 women in communities of faith is abused? Do you know that out of those 6, 4 of them are physically abused? Do you have any idea of the long term psychologically trauma caused by verbal abuse? Do you know that bruises may heal but the fear factor goes on for years, even for the life of the person abused? My pastor preached against abuse. She had been a victim of it herself. We disagreed on how she handled my particular case. Was she called to minister? Yes. I belonged to that congregation for fourteen years and grew tremendously under her teaching. I would not have even known enough to fight my abuser if it hadn't been for the word she had taught me. I have learned that pastors are human beings just like us and we are in sin when we put them on pedestals and dare them to make mistakes. My trust is in God, not humans. When I acknowledged this, I was able to forgive and move on. Judgement does not bring healing. All of us are guilty of foolishness at one time or many times. Does that mean we are not saved? No. It means we are hewn men. It means we are unlearned, undeveloped or underdeveloped in that area. I no longer live with my husband but I continue to pray for him. He is a man of great revelation. He was a good provider and he did the best he could with what he had. Unfortuneately for him, he was raised and nurtured in an atmosphere of violence. That is not an excuse since at any time he could have made a choice to change. Change is difficult, especially when you have to face yourself and admit your own sin. You said we don't need a movement. You claim that it is a losing game. In a society that teaches men that "head of household" means ruler and dictator, and wife means "one who serves", someone must bring about the balance. God is depending on the church to do that but first we must clean up our own house. After all, doesn't God's judgement start with us? Statistically one in every three women has been abused by someone they love. (These are only the reported cases.) Yes, a movement is needed. Over 1,000 women every three minutes dies at the hands of a loved one. Yes, a movement is needed. Women are at a 50-100 percent greater risk of fatality once they leave their abusers. Yes, a movement is needed. There were no shelters or aide in existence for families fleeing domestic violence until around 1969 or 79 and even now there are only 1,000 in the United States. You do the math. A movement by the body of Christ is definitely needed. An educated movement that works in co-existence with the social movement, not against it. Movement equals growth. Anything that doesn't grow dies, no matter what it is wombed from. Scribe, often times with us hewn men, the Spirit is indeed willing, but the flesh is weak. We are not to condemn those who sin, but to forgive and to help them. I help by continuing to love, forgive and pray for those who have abused or neglected me. The Bible tells me that when I do this, I am blessed. And so it is. Be Blessed. |
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2 | Judgement does not heal abuse. | Jer 5:31 | dwilde | 86536 | ||
The Church MUST be holy and pure and we are told to "Expel the wicked man from among you." Are you not to judge those inside? A thousand times yes. 1 Corinthians 5 Expel the Immoral Brother! 1It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife. 2And you are proud! Shouldn't you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? 3Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present. 4When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature[1] may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord. 6Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? 7Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast--as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth. 9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people-- 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. 12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."[2] Footnotes 1. 5:5 Or that his body; or that the flesh 2. 5:13 Deut. 17:7; 19:19; 21:21; 22:21,24; 24:7 |
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