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1 | once saved always saved? | Jer 32:40 | BradK | 128583 | ||
armond, I understand the scripture references you gave, but can you explain WHY it is that you feel "The doctrine of eternal savation is a dangerous one indeed.." I don't expect that we'll agree, but I would be interested to know your thoughts :-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | once saved always saved? | Jer 32:40 | Country Girl | 128607 | ||
If I may interject: Generally, the main theme throughout the whole Bible is against the idea of "once saved, always saved." Starting with Adam and Eve: there they were in the most perfect of living conditions ever known on this planet. No work for either of them, just naming of animals, pluck some fruit for sustinence and an ocassional walk with God. Now of course they were supposed to avoid those two trees but other than that, there wasn't anything they couldn't do. We all know that story pretty well but my point is that God provides for a rescue like Noah and his ark out of the destructive flood or the delivery of the Jews from Egyptian bondage and human beings continue to give up on God and prefer their own way. For example, the Jewish nation is commanded to take over the land of Cannaan and kill all the inhabitants. But greedy ole Aachan steals some gold and hides it under his family's tent. His punishment is not meted out to just him but his whole family. They're stoned to death in accordance with God's Law by the whole group, Joshua 7. How much more to the point does our Lord need to be? If you disobey God, you receive His punishment. It may not be as immediate as this as God is incredibly kind and patient. But we do "reap what we sow." In the NT, we have several examples of christians who were saved but didn't stay that way. From Ananias, with Sapphira in Acts 5 to Alexander and Hymenaeus in 1 Tim 1, God shows very plainly that His children mess up and go bad just ours here on earth. Every parent knows the possibility and some actually experience the knowledge of a child that breaks the law and goes to prison or maybe gets himself executed. And this is after they as parents did the best they could in rearing that child with love and patience. Now, thanks be to God, we're also given an example of a christian who sins after being saved and repents to gain forgiveness. This example is Simon the sorcerer in Acts 8. So we as christians must see ourselves in need of daily repenting and taking advantage of the constant cleansing blood of our Lord as described in 1 John 1. This would apply to both sins of commision and omission. No, my friend there's just too much evidence in the Bible to draw any other conclusion, in spite of the few verses that seem to offer some vague support of this philosophy. I've been taught those verses instead simply reflect the Lord's very intense desire that we all become obedient and inherit our reward in Heaven. But there is no such thing as eternal security IF a person doesn't remain faithful to his Lord and Master. Blessings to you, dear friend. Country Girl |
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