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1 | What child is this? | Is 7:16 | Makarios | 13413 | ||
What child is this speaking of? If it is the Christ, then how does it apply? | ||||||
2 | What child is this? | Is 7:16 | Ray | 13479 | ||
Hi Nolan, You have posed a difficult question here and I hope that you can give us an answer also. Personally, I would go with the NKJ and capitalize this "Child" and I have Boy capitalized in my personal copy. So I would say that it is talking about the Christ in verses 15 and 16 as well as in the Immanuel prophecy of verse 14. How does it apply is your question. In other words, how much did "God with us" have to learn while growing up as a Child about good and evil. And also, what is the land and the two kings? as applied to the prophecy. I think that the answer is found in the significance and meaning of a sign. I don't believe that all the phrases have to be fulfilled when the Scriptures talk of prophecies. I'm thinking of the Messianic Psalms for instance. All of the things spoken of there did not happen, but we know that they were speaking of the crucifiction of Jesus. Likewise, I don't know if Jesus ate curds and honey but we know that this passage is a prophecy of Jesus' coming. Isaiah 7:21 and 22 talk about another man who ate curds and honey and in fact everyone that "is left within the land will eat curds and honey." Also, Isaiah 8:18 says "Behold, I and the children whom the Lord has given me are for signs and wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, who dwells on Mount Zion." It is a deep thought, perhaps, but when in Hebrews 2:13 it says, "And again, "BEHOLD, I AND THE CHILDREN WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN ME." --a lot of men, boys, and children can be hidden in those capital letters of the Hebrew language. And they were all for signs and wonders. You are comparing the NKJ and the NASB and know that the passages in consideration in the NKJ has "Child" and "I and the children whom God has given Me." I hope that we have started a good discussion. Later, Ray |
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3 | What child is this? | Is 7:16 | Makarios | 13534 | ||
Greetings Ray!! :) Its been awhile since we talked, my friend, and yes, we have started a good discussion here! :) "7:14-16 God’s sign to Ahaz was that of a virgin and her son, who would not be more than 12 to 14 years old before Aram and Israel would be captured in 722 B.C. (When the prophecy was spoken, it probably referred to the woman, a virgin at that time, who Isaiah took later as his second wife, 8:1-4, his first wife presumably having died after the birth of Shear-jashub, 7:3.) The virgin of Isaiah’s prophecy is a type of the virgin Mary, who, by the Holy Spirit, miraculously conceived Jesus Christ. See Matt. 1:23. The Hebrew word that is here translated virgin is found elsewhere in the OT in Gen. 24:43; Ex. 2:8; Ps. 68:25; Prov. 30:19; Song 1:3; 6:8, and in those instances refers only to a chaste maiden who is unmarried. curds and honey. A food of a nomadic people, indicating that the land of Judah would soon be devastated. refuse evil and choose good. An age of moral discrimination. Within 12 years after this prophecy, Damascus was captured by Assyria (732) and Israel had fallen (722)." (Ryrie Study Bible) "The Hebrew word rendered virgin means “a young woman of marriageable age.” But the word also connotes the idea of virginity, for the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible made in the second century B.C., translates the Hebrew word with a Greek word that specifically means virgin. InDepth—Immanuel “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.” During the Christmas season, this verse becomes a part of our common vocabulary (7:14): Most Christmas pageants recite the verse, and pastors explain the meaning of Immanuel, “God with Us.” How the prophecy was fulfilled in the birth of Christ is recorded in the Gospel of Matthew (Matt. 1:23). But there are still questions that surround this prophecy. For instance, how could the birth of Jesus be a sign to Ahaz? Sometimes unraveling Biblical prophecy can be difficult. This is one of those cases; Christians have interpreted this prophecy in several different ways. Some have thought the anonymous “virgin” may refer to a royal mother—more specifically Ahaz’s wife. Thus the child would be Hezekiah, Ahaz’s successor. Hezekiah would be a sign to Ahaz that God was in control: The Lord was with Ahaz; He would save Judah from the enemies that surrounded Ahaz, enabling his son to inherit the throne (7:1–3). Yet the reference to the child eating “curds and honey” was a prediction of Assyria’s eventual domination of Judah. Others have identified Isaiah’s wife, “the prophetess” of 8:3, as the “virgin.” She was a young woman of marriageable age, another meaning of the Hebrew word translated virgin. The child in this case would be Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz. According to this view, the child’s two names, Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz meaning “Speed the Spoil, Hasten the Booty,” and Immanuel meaning “God with Us,” symbolize judgment and salvation. In fact, Isaiah himself described his children as “signs” to the nation (see 8:18), and he delivered a similar prophecy for this son (compare 7:16 with 8:4). Some cite the parallel between the prophecy that a “virgin shall conceive” and Jesus’ miraculous birth as evidence that this prophecy was fulfilled only in Jesus. Mary was the virgin mother; and the birth of Jesus was the sign of God’s salvation. His name would be Immanuel, “God with Us,” because Jesus was the Son of God and He lived among us (Matt. 1:23). According to this view, Isaiah’s prophecy had no fulfillment prior to Jesus’ birth (Matt. 1:18–25). It is not uncommon for biblical prophecies to have one level of fulfillment in the immediate future, and a final fulfillment many years later in the person and work of the Savior, Jesus. Thus the pregnancy of Isaiah’s new wife and the birth of her son (8:3) could have been a sign to King Ahaz. However, this would have been a fulfillment, not the fulfillment. The prophecy was completely fulfilled in the coming of God’s only Son to the earth. He is the only Child who can truly be called Wonderful, Counselor, and Prince of Peace (see 9:6)." So it is possible that Isaiah was speaking of another child here, but this prophecy is clearly brought to its full fruition in Christ! --Nolan |
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4 | What child is this? | Is 7:16 | Makarios | 13537 | ||
I apologize, that long quote was from the Nelson NKJV Study Bible.. I presume that the "view" in which you interpret this verse would explain the capitalization.. Thank you Ray! --Nolan |
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5 | What child is this? | Is 7:16 | Ray | 13547 | ||
Hi Nolan, Thanks for your quotes and the work done here. Since we're studying God's word here I'm going to stick with the primary view of the "Child" for verse 16. | ||||||