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1 | Healing in Death | Is 57:1 | mbooker | 39057 | ||
I have a question to an answer I saw posted to 'Divine Healing'. It was stated 'One more note. For the Christian, I believe the ultimate healing takes place when we enter His presence for eternity, either by death or upon His return. There are times where we pray for healing, and the Lord answers it by bringing that person home.' I have hear this before but it was said 'Their healing came when they died'. My question is are there accounts in scripture where our Father or our Lord Jesus answered someone who was asking for healing with the answer of death. I have read through the gospels and saw where many came to Jesus with a physical sickness/ailment or even death (Jarius and the Centurion) and Jesus granted them what they ask for in this life time. So, for me to believe that our Father answers his child's request to be healed here on this side of heaven (it is possible that some who are dealing with sickness may want to go one and be with our Father) with death, I would have to see in HIS Word (what I must base my faith on) where He has answered that way. So far I have only seen where HE and Jesus healed and the people still lived. Thanks and may our Father's peace to unto you all. |
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2 | Healing in Death | Is 57:1 | Mommapbs | 39058 | ||
Greetings in Jesus Name! I agree, death is the ultimate healing - it is a restoration of what man once had in Eden, complete intimacy with God. Please consider that death is not a negative -it is the means, short of the Rapture, to life eternal! Death translates us from life to LIFE! However, I do understand your questioning. I have prayed for healing and God said "yes;" and I have also prayed for healing and God said "No." God is not obligated to respond to our requests the way we want Him to! Death in itself is a "severe mercy" that God has extended to mankind. For without death, sin would never be vanquished. Just imagine after the Fall of Man, if Adam and Eve had continued to live forever, they would be eternally separated from God! So death became a way of reconciliation for us all! Now in this verse of Isaiah 57:1 we read that "the righteous man is taken away from evil." I believe that God, in His mercy and goodness to us, uses death as a means of protection at times. Death is much like any other disappointment we might encounter - it just means that God has something better in mind for us and this is just His means of bringing that to pass. Believers may pray for healing and yet be called to "walk through the valley of death." The operative word here is THROUGH! Praise God, we don't stay there! I hope this gives you some comfort and encouragement today. Blessings, Mommapbs |
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3 | the question again | Is 57:1 | mbooker | 39090 | ||
Blessed Greetings to you Mommapbs!! I do understand that "while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord... willing rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord" (II Corinthians 5:6b,8b) and I know that death to the child of God means to be 'present with the Lord' :) We, as children of the Most High have been delivered from the bondage that comes from fear of death (Hebrews 2:14-15). I too praise GOD that 'yeah though I walk through the valley of the SHADOW of death, I will fear no evil for He is with me'. However, :), I am looking for scripture that shows the answer to a request for healing is death. The bible tell us that death is the last enemy (I Corinthians 15:26) and Jesus said 'The thief comes not but to steal, to kill and to destroy but He came that we may have life and have it more abundantly' (John 10:10). And that is one reason I have a hard time accepting the idea that GOD uses death to heal us. I do believe it is our Father's will for us to be healed (Psalm 103:3, Isaiah 53:5, Acts 10:38, I Peter 2:24, II John 2) and all the promises of GOD in him are yea and in him Amen (II Corinthians 1:20). So given these scriptures, if God indeed says 'no' to a request for healing or if the answer to that request is death, I need to have scripture to confirm that. Looking forward to your response. Grace be multiplied to you! |
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4 | the question again | Is 57:1 | Mommapbs | 39093 | ||
Grace back to you! You wrote: "if God indeed says 'no' to a request for healing or if the answer to that request is death, I need to have scripture to confirm that." The first thing that God brought to my mind was the account of David in 2 Sam 12:15-23. He prayed for the healing of his son yet the child died. God answered "No." Does this satisfy the question and your request? Maybe you should re-post as perhaps others have some offerings for you to consider! Let me know what you think about this passage though! Blessings, Mommapbs |
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5 | David's account | Is 57:1 | mbooker | 45247 | ||
Hey there Mommapbs! I know it's been a long time but I did want to get back with you on the accound of David. I went and read 2 Sam 12. Proverbs says 'Death and life are in the power of the tongue' and in v.5, David pronounces death to the man in Nathan's story. In v.13 Nathan told David that the LORD had put his sin away and he would not die. 'Howbeit, because by this deed, he gave great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child born shall surely die'. v.16 says David 'besought GOD for the child'. It does not tell us in this verse what David asked of GOD. After reading v.22, I will say that I make the assumption that David asked for the child to live. Now, let me go back to v.14. The LORD's judgment had already been given: 'the child also born unto thee shall surely die'. In this case, David had GOD's word on the matter. In our case, as born again believers and children of Jehoviah, the LORD that heals thee. What word from HIM do we have on the matter of physical healing? Thanks again for listening and may our Father richly bless you as you dwell in the secret place of The Most High. Your sister in Christ! |
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6 | David's account | Is 57:1 | Mommapbs | 45250 | ||
Greetings Sister! It's always wonderful to share the Lord together; time cannot separate the fellowship we have! I'm not sure if the Proverb you cite (18:21) is applicable to this question. Perhaps it is best applied to our Spiritual Life. (see cross reference to Matthew 12:37) Re: David had God's word or judgment on the matter and yet he fasted and prayed for the child's life "perhaps God will relent."(v22) This is certainly understandable as Mosess interceded for the children of Israel many times and God relented. This should encourage us to pray without ceasing too. You asked "What word from HIM do we (born again believers) have on the matter of physical healing?" I wish I could give you a precise answer to this difficult question. There are so many that we are lifting up before the Throne of Grace for physical healing, and the healing we ask for doesn't come. At times like these, I must absolutely depend upon the sovereignty of GOd alone. Resting there gives me the comfort and confidence I need to live live in the face of unanswered questions and uncertainty. It is ALWAYS appropriate for God's children to come to Him in prayer. James 5:13-20 addresses the power of prayer as well as healing. Keep in mind that God's wellness plan for us is to restore us to a right relationship with Him! How He accomplishes this is of HIS choosing. Part of that path of health may very well take us to the elders of the Church, the docotr's office, the pharmacy, the hospital and perhaps even the funeral home! God's ways are not our ways, but His plans are always perfect and for our absolute best! My counsel to you is to seek the face of the Lord in your intercession. Release your heart to Him and let God reveal what YOU need; perhaps it is simply to trust Him for the outcome! (I think David set an example for us to follow in 2 Sam 12!) May our Lord and Savior give you a hug today from me - blessings on your day! Mommapbs |
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7 | Me again | Is 57:1 | mbooker | 45276 | ||
It's me again! :) I did think of Moses when I wondered about David 'changing' GOD's mind about the child. But with Moses, didn't he ask GOD to remember Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and the covenant he had with them? I now wonder if David had prayed as Moses and found a covenant promise to stand on, if the LORD would have repented. 'There are so many that we are lifting up before the Throne of Grace for physical healing, and the healing we ask for doesn't come' Right away, I ask, if 'the prayer of faith shall heal the sick', why didn't this prayer of faith(your statement above) heal the sick? When I ask this question, I am not questioning GOD's sovereignty. I am simply relying on the truth of his WORD because He said what ever He says, he'll do and whatever He purposes, He will bring to pass(Isaiah). I want to be a student of my Father's Word and for me that means asking questions when something I see does not line up with what the WORD says. So do you know of scriptures that may be a prerequisite to 'the prayer of faith shall heal the sick and the LORD shall raise him up'? Also, if I ask anything according to his will, he hears me and I know I have the petition I have asked (I John 5:14-15). So, I guess the first thing we need to know is if it is GOD's will for us to have physical healing. Would you agree with that? Again, thanks for listening and if I'm getting on your nerves :), I understand. I can be a pest sometimes! :) Oh and by the way, currently, I am not interceding for anyone for physical healing, but I do believe that it is His will for us to be healed physically in this life(not by death) as well as the next. And if what I believe is wrong, I need to have my mind renewed and that's what I'm after. I once heard someone say that those that disagree with you do you the most good. They force you to go to the WORD and you will either find error or confirmation in what you believe. Grace and Peace be multiplied to you. |
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8 | Me again | Is 57:1 | Robert Nicholson | 45288 | ||
Greetings Mbooker: We can rejoice that we have a great high Priest who knows our needs and feels our sorrows. We are exhorted in Hebrews 4:16: "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." In other words we can have confidence that God does hear us and does answer our cries. At times however, as a Christain we sometimes have difficulty when God answers "no or wait". You have been discussing the will of God as it relates to healing. Does God always will a person to be healed? Not always. In the case of Paul who was used mightly of the Lord and yet he was given a condition which he refers to as a "thorn in the flesh" He asked the Lord three times that he would take it away. We find the the reason for this problem was to keep Paul humble in view of the revelations he had been given by God. (2 Cor.12:7) However, the Lord instead of healing Paul told him "My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness." In other words Paul was kept closer to the Lord and experience the Lord's grace and the Lord's strength to enable him to live with the infirmity. I believe that scripture would support that we should always pray "if the Lord will". I think it is wrong to try and pressure God into doing certain things which we may think are his will. I have listened to people pray and ask for healing and thank the Lord for already healing the person, when in fact the person was not healed. Another example that I have witnessed during a prayer meeting in which we were praying for a certain person that they might be saved. One brother thanked the Lord for saving the person, when in fact God's time was many months later. We must learn to wait upon God. Some will cite the strength of their faith as somehow hindering God's hand in deliverance. However, we must remember the Lord Jesus mentions faith as small as a grain of mustard seed. In other words it is our small faith in a great God that gives us strength to trust him unconditionally in the things he allows in our lives. Why does God allow bad things to happen to those who love him? My personal experience early in life was the death of my mother who knew the Lord Jesus and was a bright testimony for him. At 47 years of age she was suddenly taken from us? Why would God take a mother leaving behind small children who desperately needed her? I don't have the answer, but I trust in God who knows the big picture of our lives. I do know that my sister who was hardened to the gospel came to Christ after my mother's death. This is an example of blessing coming out of sorrow. These are just a few thoughts I have on the subject. May God continue to bless you and may you have the joy of placing your total confidence in him. Robert |
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9 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | mbooker | 45317 | ||
Just one point I'd like to address. The thorn in the flesh that Paul had to deal with. Are you saying it was some type of sickness? He said it was a messenger of Satan. I read a book dealing with 'the thorn in the flesh' issue. In the book, the author went thru scripture and found instances where the term 'thorn in the flesh' was used and if I'm not mistaken, they referred to a person or a people. I will try and get the book and pull out those scriptures. Well maybe two points I'd like to address. If we always pray 'if the LORD wills', can we ever pray according to I John 5:14-15. Thanks again. Yours in Christ |
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10 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 45348 | ||
I agree. The messenger of satan was probably a person. And if it was something else it seems to be a spiritual warfare not a physical sickness. If it was an illness it never made Paul pray differently. I mean he did not say "we do not know whether God wants to heal you" instead we see Paul always full of faith and laying hands on the sick and speaking words of Faith. It says he left a brother sick but it does not say if maybe he was healed later. And maybe he was talking about common colds which we all get and get over. The kind of Healing we see Paul and all believers full of faith and the Holy Spirit doing in the Bible is that of opening blind eyes and the lame man walking. I don't thing they were coming with common colds. I think they came with the impossible cases. So we should follow the example of Paul. Whether he had an illness or whether he leaves a brother in a town sick Paul just kept preaching faith in God and laying hands on the sick and sending our handkerchiefs from the sweat of his brow and many were healed of the impossible cases by faith in the Name of Jesus. Next time someone tries to tell you about sister or brother "so and so" that prayed for healing but they died, just tell them "Please don't give me your sad storys" Does your "sad story" make null the word of God? I think not. Here is what the Word says. Matthew 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. Matthew 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: Matthew 12:15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all; And next time someone who is full of doubt and unbelief trys to tell you that you should not tell people they do not have faith, give them this verse. Mark 6:5 And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. 1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. You know all these verses, but what we must do is speak only the Word. When Sad storys start to be presented, Just tell the "well-intended" brother the Word. When he speaks another sad story then speak the Word soon the doubtful brother will begin to be revived and faith will arise in his heart. And he will say. Praise God I see that I indeed am falling into unbelief, I will only speak God's Word on the subject. Then he may actually see a healing take place and be able to comprehend the ihheritance that is in every believer throught faith in that Person Jesus Christ and His Power that is in Us. I have been in a room full of unbelievers that were praying sad prayers about "if it be thy will to heal our sister we ask for it .. but if not give her peace." The sister had breast cancer. I had to "put out" the doubters by telling them to only pray the scriptures. Well no one could pray any healing scriptures that were not positive verses of faith for healing in the right now. So afte we Claimed healing in the name of Jesus for the right now. and agreed as touching it and Thanked the Lord as though the Dr had just given the report that she was cancer free. Then and only then did the sister get healed. Was it becuase we had no faith that she was not healed before that hour or was it just God's Timing? It was obvious to all that were there including the catholics that were there that faith in the Word instead of human philosophy of trying to reason out why so and so did not get healed was the problem. As soon as the saints decided to believe for healing right now, regardless of sad storys they had heard then the sister was healed. |
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11 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | heisthe1 | 45428 | ||
Hello Scribe, The Scriptures reveal to us that physical healing has been provided for the believer through the atoning work of Christ; however, there are those who reject this view and contend that is is not God's will to heal everyone, even those who come to Him in faith. One argument these people use is that the apostle Paul himself had suffered numerous illnesses, implying that if such a one as the apostle Paul failed to receive healing, then it is only normal for many ordinary believers to remain ill. If it was not God's will to heal the apostle Paul, then it may not be God's will to heal us. I will present some of the biblical passages often used to "prove" that Paul was a sick man. I will argue that these passages in fact demonstrate the tremendous healing power of God at work in Paul's life. His life and experiences provide us with reasons to believe God for healing, not the other way around. PAUL'S INFIRMITIES. "Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first. And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus. Where is then the blessedness ye spake of? or I bear you record, that, if it has been possible, ye would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me" (Galatians 4:13-15). This biblical passage is often quoted as proof that Paul was sick and that healing is not for everyone (or for nobody at all). Even if Paul was sick (which he was not, as we shall see), that does not prove anything about God's will in the area of healing until we also take into the account the direct statements in the Bible concerning healing. Abraham, David, Solomon, and other righteous characters in the Bible had more than one wife, and from these examples, some have concluded that God allows a man to have more than one wife at the same time. However, when we take into account the direct statements from the Bible (as oppose to the implications derived from people's actions and experices), we understand that God's will is for a man to have only one wife. In the same way, Paul's experiences prove nothing unless it is consistent with the direct statements of the Bible. Verse 13 says "ye know how through the infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first." Paul visited Galatia "at the first" in Acts 14. The Bible says Paul went into Antioch, Iconium, Lystra, and Derbe. The province of Galatia contained Pisidia and Lycaonia, and therefore the towns of Antioch, Iconium, Lystra, and Derbe. So Paul first visited Galatia in Acts 14. What happened to Paul in Acts 14? He was stoned: "And there came thither, certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he has been dead." In those days, they dug holes in the ground outside of the city. Whenever they were to stone someone, they would push the victim into the hole. Then, a crowd would gather around the hole and throw big rocks at the person's head, until they were certain that it was completely crushed. From biblical evidence, it seems that Paul was actually dead. The timing would be about 14 years before he was to write 2Corinthians, which would make Acts 14 the time when he died and temporarily went to heaven to see the visions mentioned in 2Corinthians 12:2-4. Then what happened? God raised Paul from the dead right on the spot and Paul marched right back into the same city! This is why Paul had an "infirmity of the flesh"-His skull had been crushed and he was walking around looking like that. So, instead of disproving the biblical teaching on healing, this passage in Galatians demonstrates God's supernatural healing and resurrection power. Paul was walking around supernaturally with this and many other injuries. I still have to explain the phrase "you would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me" (v.15). From these words, people have concluded that Paul had an eye disease. This interpretation is both irresponsible and dishonest-it had extinguished many people's hope for receiving healing from God. "Would have plucked out your own eyes" is simply an expression! Just like a "thorn in the flesh" is an expression equivalent to a "pain in the neck." You want to know what Paul believed? He believed this: "But if the Spirit of him that raised Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you" (Romans 8:11). It happened to him time and time again. It can happen to you, if you believe. I write this to you Scribe, because you do believe and if you wish I will post much more concerning Paul's injuries and the "thorn in the flesh" God blessings |
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12 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | mbooker | 45827 | ||
Hi heisthe1. Please post more on Paul's thorn in the flesh. Peace and grace to you... |
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13 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Makarios | 45843 | ||
Greetings mbooker! Here is a little commentary.. "THORN IN THE FLESH (2 Cor. 12:7-10). Many interpretations have been given of this passage. (1.) Roman Catholic writers think that it denotes suggestions to impiety. (2.) Luther, Calvin, and other Reformers interpret the expression as denoting temptation to unbelief. (3.) Others suppose the expression refers to "a pain in the ear or head," epileptic fits, or, in general, to some severe physical infirmity, which was a hindrance to the apostle in his work (comp. 1 Cor. 2:3; 2 Cor. 10:10; 11:30; Gal. 4:13, 14; 6:17). With a great amount of probability, it has been alleged that his malady was defect of sight, consequent on the dazzling light which shone around him at his conversion, acute opthalmia. This would account for the statements in Gal. 4:14; 2 Cor. 10:10; also Acts 23:5, and for his generally making use of the help of an amanuensis (comp. Rom. 16:22, etc.). (4.) Another view which has been maintained is that this "thorn" consisted in an infirmity of temper, to which he occasionally gave way, and which interfered with his success (comp. Acts 15:39; 23:2-5). If we consider the fact, "which the experience of God's saints in all ages has conclusively established, of the difficulty of subduing an infirmity of temper, as well as the pain, remorse, and humiliation such an infirmity is wont to cause to those who groan under it, we may be inclined to believe that not the least probable hypothesis concerning the 'thorn' or 'stake' in the flesh is that the loving heart of the apostle bewailed as his sorest trial the misfortune that, by impatience in word, he had often wounded those for whom he would willingly have given his life" (Lias's Second Cor., Introd.)." (1) Blessings to you, Makarios (1) Easton's Bible Dictionary |
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