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1 | when the sons of God lived with ... | Gen 6:4 | parpar | 200607 | ||
Hi rev eugene k mensah. Allow me to give you my understanding of, "sons of God", and, "the Nephilim". I am of the opinion that the, "angels who sinned", referred to below at, 2Pe 2:4, are in fact, "the sons of God", mentioned at Gen 6:2.. My reason for believing that the, "sons of God", are angels is as a result of what is said at Job 1:6-7. 2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 2Pe 2:5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; Gen 6:2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan[fn2] also came among them. Job 1:7 And the LORD said to Satan, "From where do you come?" So Satan answered the LORD and said, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it." Now regarding the Nephilim. About some 300 years BC, a translation of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek known as the, "Septuagint", was commenced, and when the translators looked for a suitable Greek word for Nephilim, they used, "Titan", which means giant, and from which we get the English word, "Titanic". The following is an extract from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(mythology) "The twelve first-generation Titans were ruled by the youngest, Cronus, who overthrew their father, Uranus ('Sky'), at the urgings of their mother, Gaia ('Earth')." In other words in Greek mythology, the Titans were the product of sex between supposed male, and female gods. For what it is worth, I am well aware that what I have said above is pure speculation on my part, and is in no way to be taken as foundational Christian doctrine, however, I put it forward for your information, and comment. Every blessing. parpar. |
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2 | when the sons of God lived with ... | Gen 6:4 | stjohn | 200612 | ||
dear parpar, If I've been remiss in welcoming you to the forum then... welcome to the forum! If you haven't read this whole thread I would, if you please, like to direct you to post # 26083 . This explanation calls for much less "speculation" if indeed any. By the way, I have to wonder,... if you believe that your explanation calls for, "pure speculation" and, "is in no way to be taken as foundational Christian doctrine". Why would you then adopt it? God bless John |
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3 | when the sons of God lived with ... | Gen 6:4 | parpar | 200659 | ||
Dear John. Thank you for your welcome, and for drawing my attention to post # 26083, on which I would like to comment as follows. Both "Christianheart", who asked the question, and, "Jesusman" who answered it are both wrong in concluding that there was only one man called, "Lamech". It does not require an in depth examination of Scripture, a mere casual glance at the respective verses in their context, shows that Lamech's father was, "Methuselah", and that Lamech was the father of Noah, see below. Gen 5:25 Methuselah lived one hundred and eighty-seven years, and begot Lamech. Gen 5:26 After he begot Lamech, Methuselah lived seven hundred and eighty-two years, and had sons and daughters. Gen 5:27 So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years; and he died. Gen 5:28 Lamech lived one hundred and eighty-two years, and had a son. Gen 5:29 And he called his name Noah, saying, "This one will comfort us concerning our work and the toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD has cursed." Whereas at. Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son--Enoch. Gen 4:18 To Enoch was born Irad; and Irad begot Mehujael, and Mehujael begot Methushael, and Methushael begot Lamech. Gen 4:19 Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah. Gen 4:20 And Adah bore Jabal. He was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. Gen 4:21 His brother's name was Jubal. He was the father of all those who play the harp and flute. Gen 4:22 And as for Zillah, she also bore Tubal-Cain, an instructor of every craftsman in bronze and iron. And the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah. We are told that Lamech's father was, "Methushael", and that Lamach was not the father of Noah, therefore there must be at least two different men called Lamech, you will also note that at verse 17 above, Cain was the father of Enoch, who was the third from Adam, if you count Adam as the first, whereas at. Gen 5:19 After he begot Enoch, Jared lived eight hundred years, and had sons and daughters. It was Jared who was the father of Enoch the seventh from Adam not the third, and therefore clearly not the same person. Jesusman who said, or could one say, "speculated", "it is reasonable to assume that both references are about the same person. "clearly did not do his, "homework", and therefore one is inclined to treat whatever else he had to say with some degree of suspicion. To be continued. parpar. |
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4 | when the sons of God lived with ... | Gen 6:4 | parpar | 200660 | ||
Dear John. Here is the continuation of my previous post. Yo said. "By the way, I have to wonder,... if you believe that your explanation calls for, "pure speculation" and, "is in no way to be taken as foundational Christian doctrine". Why would you then adopt it?" The questions asked are of academic interest only, as were the answers I gave. What I had to say will no way affect the salvation of anyone, or their standing before the Lord. No where in Scripture does the Lord say, "Unless you understand what is meant by, the sons of God, or know what the Nephilim are, can you be saved". And that alone is why I described as, "pure speculation", what I said in answer to the two questions that were asked. My understanding of what is meant by, "foundational Christian doctrine", is to be found in such verses as, John 3:16. Rom 10:9. Eph 2:8-9. Gal 2:20, and so on. I hope the above has helped to clarify the situation for you. Every blessing. parpar. |
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