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1 | I would like an explination of Geneis 6. | Gen 6:1 | Holmes | 228444 | ||
(Genesis 6:1-4) Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. And the Lord said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. You wrote: - “What has to be recognized is that there was no 'godly line of Seth'. Seth's descendants were as ungodly as Cain's.” Please note the Godly line of Seth: Genesis 4:26 To Seth, to him also a son was born; and he called his name Enosh. Then men began to call upon the name of the LORD. Luke 3:38 . . . the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God. You wrote: - “Why on earth should a line which was to be largely destroyed for sin be called 'sons of God'? And why should their subsequent offspring have been so unique as to be 'men of renown'?” Does it make more sense that demons should be called “Sons of God?” You wrote: - “The only way to remove the effects of these unions was total destruction.” Ever heard of Goliath? Guess that destruction was not total! Read the verses carefully. It says there were giants in those days and also afterward, mighty men, men of renown. It does not say they were the result of the sons of God being united with the daughters of men, but actually existed before that time. The LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with MAN forever,” not Man-Demons. Women are human and angels are spirit beings, angels cannot cohabit or reproduce with women. Each kind is to produce after it’s own kind. Do angels reproduce? For your consideration, Holmes |
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2 | I would like an explination of Geneis 6. | Gen 6:1 | biblicalman | 228446 | ||
Hi Holmes, Genesis 4.26 depicts when men began to worship YHWH. Two people does not constitute a 'line'. So there were some godly people in the days of Seth and his son? That does not explain the calling of people hundreds of years later by the title 'sons of God'. They were not 'sons of God'. They were particularly sinful men. As far as we know the godly line of Seth ceases at his son Enosh (which incidentally means man in his frailty). Indeed you will notice it was 'men' who began to call on the Name of YHWH (not sons of God). Then in 6.1 it was 'men' who had daughters born to them. Thus the same people are in mind. You say does it make sense that demons (evil angels) are called sons of the elohim? Yes it does. Satan is called a son of the elohim in Job 1-2. Does that make sense? 'Elohim' can equally indicate the spirit world. (Thus in Psalm 8 man was made a little lower than the elohim which AV translates as angels). Angels are therefore called 'sons of the elohim'. The witch of Endor said, 'I saw elohim arising out of the earth'.(1 Sam 28.13). She was thinking of disembodied spirits. So it is very apposite that fallen angels be called 'sons of the elohim'. Goliath was just a large men. He was not some exceptional being. The Anakim were famous for their size. Compare the Zulus. But they have no connection with Genesis 6. All described in Genesis 6 were wiped out by the Flood. Yes I have read the passage very carefully. So there were large men on the earth? Now why should that be mentioned if there is no connection? And certainly the 'men of renown' were borne by the daughters of men who had relations (whether physical or demonic) with the angels. You still have not explained why the whole of the line of Seth apart from one family was wiped out by the Flood if they were 'the godly line of Seth'. They were wiped out precisely because they were ungodly. Who suggested that God would strive (or abide)with demons? It was man in his association with demons who would be rejected by God. Have you never heard of demonic intercourse? It even takes place today. This is therefore probably describing such intercourse. Remember the writer is trying to describe in simple terminology something profoundly evil. What other terminology had he for the idea of evil angels becoming one with earthly women? It was in the early days of language, when language was limited. In fact of course we do not know whether fallen angels could have intercourse with earthly women. Are you an expert on angels? Have you ever met any? How then can you say what they could do? If they can appear as men, as they regularly do, then they could have intercourse with women. The fact that it is unnatural for them is precisely the point. They were the 'angels who left their first estate'. They went against God's ordinance. Best wishes |
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