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1 | Noah, a bad evangelist? | Gen 6:18 | iktoose | 145305 | ||
All this time, I thought Noah was pretty bad evangelist, unable to save any souls other than his immediate family of 8 for 120 yrs. This verse (Gen 6:18) just revealed me God's plan; rescuing only 8 souls. God did not mention any others except of course the animals. God decided to wipe out all and He surely did it. | ||||||
2 | Noah, a bad evangelist? | Gen 6:18 | T'oma | 145322 | ||
Hello, Iktoose. First off, I so appreciate many of your notes you have written the past week. One note you offered today puzzled me, however. Every time someone offers that same conclusion of Noah spending 120 years preaching as he built the ark, I’m puzzled with “how can they conclude such?” Doing the math – it doesn’t add up. I’ll quote from my Jewish Bible (Masoretic Text and the JPS 1917 Edition). Gen 5:32 “And Noah was five hundred years old; and Noah begot Shem, Ham, and Japheth”. Gen 6:3 “And the LORD said: 'My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for that he also is flesh; therefore shall his days be a hundred and twenty years.’” But wait. This doesn’t state anything about Noah building the ark. Right? The day that the Lord first instructed Noah to build the ark Noah had already had his three sons, and those three sons were grown and married. Back to my Jewish Bible showing the instructions God gave to Noah INCLUDED Noah’s family. Gen. 6:18 “But I will establish My covenant with thee; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.” According to 5:32 – Noah was 500 years old when he had his sons. The original “contract” mentions, “thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives WITH THEE,” tells us they were already around when the “ark order” was issued. Gen 7:11 tells us, “In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.” Unless Noah began building and preaching 20 years before God told him to, and his sons got married from their mother’s womb, it doesn’t add up. Besides the fact that Shem was 98 years old when the flood came… and he was younger than Japheth… Anyway, I have heard too many preachers attempt to prove the "120-year preach while you build the ark story” only to be kidding themselves and deceiving their congregation. Otherwise, keep up the good work (words) :) T’oma |
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3 | Noah, a bad evangelist? | Gen 6:18 | BradK | 145325 | ||
T'oma, I noted your comments on this matter. How can you be so sure that Noah didn't preach for 120 years? C.H. Spurgeon- though most definitely a man- was no slouch when it came to Biblical exegesis. His comments (in part) on this point are thus: "Noah believed through a hundred and twenty solitary years! It was a long martyrdom. Our life is quite long enough for the trial of faith. Even if a man lives to be eighty, and has sixty years of that life spent in the exercise of faith, it is only by almighty grace that he holds out. Noah lived two of our lives in this way. If a little flood had happened and moved his ark a little, he would have had some evidence for his faith; but there was no flood at all; and his ark lay high and dry for a century and a quarter! How few could endure this! Yonder dear friend has been praying for the last six months, and the Lord has not heard him, and he begins to doubt whether the Lord does hear prayer at all. You are not much like Noah. You can hardly believe for one hundred and twenty days. "Alas!" says one, "I have prayed for my husband these twenty years!" It is a long time to wait; but what would you do with a hundred added on to it? Years made Noah's faith more mature, and not more feeble. This grey father of the age went on with his preaching, went on with his intercession, and, without a doubt" I think the point to consider is this: Noah was faithful according to Heb. 11:7 without seeing the fruit of his preaching! "By faith Noah, being warned by God about things not yet seen, in reverence prepared an ark for the salvation of his household, by which he condemned the world, and became an heir of the righteousness which is according to faith." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Noah, a bad evangelist? | Gen 6:18 | T'oma | 145326 | ||
Brad, Amen! Noah was indeed faithful. Please reread my note. I didn't say anything about the time period Noah preached. My point wasn't that Noah didn't preach. My point remains that it couldn't have taken Noah 120 years to build the ark. That's where it doesn't add up. I have no doubt that the author of Hebrews would have included the time it took for Noah to BUILD the ark - had he know that Spurgeon and other authors would erroneously speculate about such matters. Perhaps, if Spurgeon did the same math as everyone else that knows the difference has done, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The ONLY place 120 years is mentioned in that story is WAY before God and Noah "got together" with a plan to build the ark. Whether it took Noah five years or one year to BUILD the ark, Hebrew's author's statements about Noah remain accurate. He was faithful. Amen? T'oma |
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5 | Noah, a bad evangelist? | Gen 6:18 | srbaegon | 145328 | ||
Hello T'oma, You bring up an interesting point. Noah was 500 when he fathered his sons (Gen 5:32). Noah's sons were married when God called Noah (Gen 6:18). And Noah was 600 when the flood began (Gen 7:6). Interesting indeed! Steve |
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