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1 | How can incest be forbidden? | Gen 3:3 | EdB | 129784 | ||
Doc I know there is a group of theologians that have everything figured out cut and dried. It amuses me and I'm sure it does God also since He told us He hasn't revealed all His mysteries to us. While I know perfectly what you think Paul said let us not go there. I didn't say I see God change his mind. I said I see things that appears that God has changed his mind but I know God never changes so therefore the problem isn't God changing but rather my perception. It is just that, my knowledge of human beings that convinces me I know little of what they are thinking. In fact in may cases they know little of what exactly it is that they are thinking. Your statement, “No we can't know what God, etc. was thinking. But God gave us the scripture. If we take great care in its study, we can lift from its pages the very heart motivations that made people behave as they did. It is all right there for our instruction.” I disagree. Scripture is living and I believe we may read scripture today and see a motivation in a negative sense and realize it also resides in us. However we can read the same scripture and see an entirely different motivation this time a positive one that we also become aware is sadly lacking in us and we need to culture it in our lives. Scripture is not a ‘text book’ scripture is living breathing and God speaks to us by it, but God also speaks through it. This is my main problem with so many that claim they have a handle on what the Bible says. How can they it is fresh everyday. EdB |
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2 | How can incest be forbidden? | Gen 3:3 | DocTrinsograce | 129799 | ||
I brought up three distinct points. Mia culpa for doing that in one post. I will respond, therefore, via three posts, one for each issue. I know there is a group that think everything in the scripture is mysterious and beyond human comprehension. It amuses me, and I can show from scripture that it does God also, since He told us that all revealed Truth belongs to all of His people (Deut 29:29). It is even more amusing to me that people who deny the perspicuity of scripture, use scripture to validate its lack of perspicuity. In the end, they refuse to discuss "difficult" passages, depending instead on the "authority" of their inner feelings. Like you, I think there is a problem if anyone thinks they have it all figured out. You see that in many of the cults of our day. Although you will find laity and non-scholars in my own tradition taking this position, I'm glad that I do not see this in any of the scholars in the orthodox protestant tradition. Rather, there is a humility that stems out of an understanding of the low, depraved state of man and the awesome, perfection of an infinite and holy God. This continually sends us back to the "all-sufficient, certain and infallible rule or standard of the knowledge, faith and obedience that constitute salvation;" i.e., the Word of God. As long as we are talking about amusement, don't you find it amusing that people can throw out the research of very learned men without even hearing what they have to say? Imagine if we did that with physics or chemistry. "No, don't tell me! My research is only valid if I figure it out myself! I don't care what other researchers did!" :-) Back to the point: Per your request, I will leave Paul out of this discussion. Paul, Augustine, and others tend to affirm original sin in solid syllogistic fashion. Others, following the tradition of Pelegius, tend to be very uncomfortable with the unequivocal premises and the inescapable hard logic that follows them. |
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3 | How can incest be forbidden? | Gen 3:3 | EdB | 129806 | ||
Doc Isn't it interesting that all the theologians that end up on the other side of the table are idiots, even though they have the same mental capacity and education of those that are so much wiser on that side of the table. I say they are idiots because they read the same passage as the group that has all understanding, but instead of saying now I can explain the mysteries of God they say, "Wow, look here are actions and events that we don't completely understand they even seem to conflict with the whole of scripture perhaps they are actually talking about something the first group refuses to consider." Your absolutely correct we can understand all the God has "Revealed". My problem is with the things God only gave us a partial picture of. See I get real nervous in light of 2 Peter 3:15-16 "and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation--as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, [16] as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures." And people that start explaining things that are in direct conflict with the rest of Scripture. Rather than start a fight over the theology of a one man many want to put at the level of Paul or Peter. I WILL SAY NOT MORE. Besides Lockman has already expressed their opinion on such a discussion. EdB |
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4 | How can incest be forbidden? | Gen 3:3 | DocTrinsograce | 129812 | ||
You see these posts through a very singular lense, brother Ed. I wasn't even thinking about anything related to Lockman's prohibitions. I wasn't even thinking of anything written after 100 AD. If there is a history on this forum to which you are sensitive, I must point out that I am but recently arrived. This is strictly my very humble opinion, but shouldn't you be more concerned and more sensative to stuff like Montanism rather than controversies that surfaced over 1200 years later? |
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5 | How can incest be forbidden? | Gen 3:3 | EdB | 129815 | ||
doc This is going no where. Evidently this is kindling feelings I do not wish to kindle or have kindled so I'm dropping out. EdB |
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