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1 | Gen 22:6How did old Abraham tie his son? | Gen 22:5 | Morant61 | 80931 | ||
Greetings Biblebeliever! I am used to straight talking my friend, but I am not used to Christian brothers being rude. Hopefully, I never will become accustomed to that! Was I rude to you? I asked you in another post about how the text of the Textus Receptus was arrived at. Did every single manuscript used by the Textus Receptus agree exactly on every point? If not, how were the readings decided upon? My desire is to see the text be as accurate as it can be. So, I am not offended by textual choices as long as they reflect the best possible evidence. For instance, you cite the example of Acts 8:37. Without going into all of the details, it is clear that some manuscripts include this verse, while others do not. Why do you automatically assume that those which do include it are accurate, while those which do not are inaccurate? On what basis do you make this decision? If someone disagrees with your choice, why would you assume that they are attackig the Word of God? Which reading is the Word of God? If all of the manuscripts included Acts 8:37, and someone removed it anyway, I would agree with your point. But, many manuscripts do not include it. Therefore, a decision has to be made. The general thinking is that there would be no reason to remove Acts 8:37 if it were original, but there would be reasons to add it if it were not. Therefore, most translations today leave it out. You can agree or disagree with their decision, but they have only done exactly what you have done when you decided that it must be original. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Gen 22:6How did old Abraham tie his son? | Gen 22:5 | Biblebeliever | 80943 | ||
This will probably be my last response. I am still shocked (I mean this) that those things that I mentioned have no effect on you one way or another. You have to admit that you do not have A BIBLE that you can hold in your hand and believe totaly.You have to examine the manuscript evidence available and decide did God really say this or not??How this must hurt your Christian joy not just being able to pick up a book and rest on the preciouse promises of God! There is always a doubt.Is this a scribal error? Is this passage a gloss? Is this WORD FOR WORD what God said to me? I couldn't live like that.I know you think I'm wrong.I'm undoubtedly wrong about alot in life.Will you please pray about these things? | ||||||
3 | Gen 22:6How did old Abraham tie his son? | Gen 22:5 | Morant61 | 80963 | ||
Greetings Biblebeliever! Thank you for the gentler tone my friend! Allow me to touch upon your points, and if I have misunderstood you, please let me know. It sounds to me like you believe that there is one 'real' text in existence out there somewhere. Which one is it? We literally have thousands of manuscripts, and not one of them totally agrees with any other one all of the time. Even the texts used by the TR differed with one another. So, how do you think that the text of the TR was established? Erasmus made decisions based upon the manuscripts which he had available (not very many). Sometimes, the manuscripts he had did not even include large portions of Scripture, so He 'made up' whole Greek passages by working backwards from the Latin. I know that it is difficult to accept for many my friend, but there is no 'offical' Bible. There are thousands of copies, but no originals. This is not to say that we cannot know what God said. I believe in inerrancy and inspiration. I believe that God protected His Word. Even though the manuscripts differ in many places, most of the differences are minor issues. What I have been trying to get you to realize is that the KJV was produced in exactly the same manner that modern translations are produced. The only difference is that modern scholars have vastly more manuscripts to consider than did those during the time of King James. So, the evidence is greater for the modern texts. Is there doubt? There is always doubt my friend. Even if we had an 'offical' Greek and Hebrew text, that text must still be translated. Translators are only human. Anytime you pick up a translation, you are relying on the ability of those who translated the text, and upon the ability of those who made the textual decisions about the text, and upon the ability of those who made the copies of the manuscripts. Yet, through all of this, God's Word lives. But, God's Word is not the KJV translation, nor is it the NIV translation. God's Word is the original words penned in Hebrew and Greek by the inspired authors. I hope we get to know one another better and interact more in the future my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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