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1 | What is meant in Genesis 17, verse 1 - 7 | Gen 17:1 | Laura Beckman | 78477 | ||
What is meant by these verses? | ||||||
2 | What is meant in Genesis 17, verse 1 - 7 | Gen 17:1 | Searcher56 | 78478 | ||
Scripture ... Gen 12:2-3, 13:14-26, 15:4-5, 17:1-7 ... Laura Beckman, God's day to you and welcome to the forum. In verse 1, God announces His name, for the first time and gives instuctions. Then in verse 2 He is confirming His covenant (Gen 12:2-3, 13:14-26, 15:4-5) with a promise to increase his numbers (Gen 13:16), even at 99 (vs 1). The covenant and the increase in numbers is restated in the other verses. God changed his name from (exhalted father) to Abraham (father of many) ... a new identity. I hope this helps, Searcher |
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3 | What is meant in Genesis 17, verse 1 - 7 | Gen 17:1 | Radioman2 | 78531 | ||
WHEN was the name of God known? Genesis 4:26 American Standard Version (ASV) Genesis 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh. Then began men to call upon the name of Jehovah. NASB Genesis 4:26 To Seth, to him also a son was born; and he called his name Enosh. Then men began to call upon the name of the LORD. Genesis 12:8 ASV Genesis 12:8 And he (Abram) removed from thence unto the mountain on the east of Beth-el, and pitched his tent, having Beth-el on the west, and Ai on the east: and there he builded an altar unto Jehovah, and called upon the name of Jehovah. NASB Genesis 12:8 Then he (Abram) proceeded from there to the mountain on the east of Bethel, and pitched his tent, with Bethel on the west and Ai on the east; and there he built an altar to the LORD and called upon the name of the LORD. For more information see Study Note #45 at Exodus 3:13 in the New English Translation (NET Bible) at (www.netbible.org/). |
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4 | What is meant in Genesis 17, verse 1 - 7 | Gen 17:1 | Searcher56 | 78533 | ||
But, God didn't annouce His name until Genesis 17:1 ... and when He it was El Shaddai, not Yahweh. But aware there is no J in the Hebrew. | ||||||
5 | What is meant in Genesis 17, verse 1 - 7 | Gen 17:1 | Radioman2 | 78575 | ||
"We are told from the very beginning that people were making proclamation of the name of Yahweh (Gen 4:26; 12:8)." Then Moses said to God, "Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you.' Now they may say to me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?" NASB Exodus 3:13 'There has been considerable debate about the name of Yahweh in the Pentateuch, primarily because of the source critical approach that tried to argue that the name Yahweh was not known in antiquity. The argument of this whole section nullifies that view. The idea that God's name was revealed only here raises the question of what he was called earlier. The word "God" is not a name. "El Shaddai" is used only a few times in Genesis. But Israel would not have had a nameless deity-especially since we are told from the very beginning that people were making proclamation of the name of Yahweh (Gen 4:26; 12:8). 'It is possible that they did not always need a name if they were convinced that only he existed and there was no other God. But probably what Moses was anticipating was the Israelites wanting to be sure that Moses came from their God, and that some sign could prove it. They would have known his name (Yahweh), and they would have known the ways that he had manifested himself. It would do no good for Moses to come with a new name for God, for that would be like introducing them to a new God. That would in no way authenticate his call to them, only confuse; after all, they would not be expecting a new name-they had been praying to their covenant God all along. They would want to be sure that their covenant God actually had sent Moses. 'To satisfy the Israelites Moses would have had to have been familiar with the name Yahweh-as they were-and know that he appeared to individuals. They would also want to know if Yahweh had sent Moses, how this was going to work in their deliverance, because they had been crying to him for deliverance. As it turned out, the Israelites had less problem with this than Moses anticipated-they were delighted when he came. It is likely that much of this concern was Moses' own need for assurance that this was indeed the God of the fathers and that the promised deliverance was now to take place. See the discussions of this passage in the commentaries on Exodus by Benno Jacob and Umberto Cassuto. ' (Study note at Exodus 3:13, The Net Bible, (www.netbible.com)) |
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6 | What is meant in Genesis 17, verse 1 - 7 | Gen 17:1 | Searcher56 | 78604 | ||
In Exodus 3:13, God announced a new name, to show a new relationship. It doesn't matter what people call Him, it matters what He calls Himself. The Bible also says He was Elohim. |
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7 | What is meant in Genesis 17, verse 1 - 7 | Gen 17:1 | Radioman2 | 78615 | ||
WHEN was the name of God known? Genesis 4:26 American Standard Version (ASV) Genesis 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh. Then began men to call upon the name of Jehovah. NASB Genesis 4:26 To Seth, to him also a son was born; and he called his name Enosh. Then men began to call upon the name of the LORD. Genesis 12:8 ASV Genesis 12:8 And he (Abram) removed from thence unto the mountain on the east of Beth-el, and pitched his tent, having Beth-el on the west, and Ai on the east: and there he builded an altar unto Jehovah, and called upon the name of Jehovah. NASB Genesis 12:8 Then he (Abram) proceeded from there to the mountain on the east of Bethel, and pitched his tent, with Bethel on the west and Ai on the east; and there he built an altar to the LORD and called upon the name of the LORD. |
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8 | What did God first call Himself? | Gen 17:1 | Searcher56 | 78626 | ||
You misunderstand me. Yahweh is what MAN called God. Do you understand that? What did God first call Himself? I see Him calling Himself El Shaddai in Genesis 17:1. Do you agree? Now, what name did He call Himself before that? I do not care what man called Him. |
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9 | What did God first call Himself? | Gen 17:1 | Radioman2 | 78629 | ||
So what are you saying? That YHWH, the name used almost 7,000 times in the Bible, is NOT really God's name? That it's just a man-made nickname? I'm sorry, but this doesn't even make any sense. In Genesis chapters 4 and 12 it does not say that people CALLED him YHWH. It says they began to CALL UPON THE NAME of YHWH. Where do you think they got the name -- that they just made it up? Do your research. Man called God YHWH because that is his name. Do you understand that? |
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10 | Did Go call Himself, El Shaddai, first? | Gen 17:1 | Searcher56 | 78635 | ||
So what are you saying? That YHWH, the name used almost 7,000 times in the Bible, is NOT really God's name? No, Yahweh (YHWH) is one of His names. I'll ask you again, did HE CALL HIMSELF El Shaddai or Yahweh (YHWH) first? That has been my question in one form or another for several posts. Yet, you fail to answer it. You keep pointing back to only one name, Yahweh (YHWH). What did he first call Himself, El Shaddai or Yahweh (YHWH)? I do not know how/why people called on him, using Yahweh (YHWH) ... but, He had never announced to men, His name. |
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11 | Did Go call Himself, El Shaddai, first? | Gen 17:1 | EdB | 78715 | ||
Searcher56 and Radioman2 Let me interject here if I might. El Shaddai is not God's name but rather one of his attributes. In fact all the "El's" are exactly that God refers to his attributes as a name which describes Himself. This was common practice in Hebrew and many other cultures. We see in Roman titles. Lord of the realm, protector of the poor defender of the just etc. YHWH was the Hebrew word for god when speaking about God. Today they use G-d if writing it. In Exodus 3:14-15 god clearly states his name. “And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.' " 15Moreover God said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: 'The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.' “ God clearly states here his name is the 'The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob” and that would be His name forever. All the other names are God describing himself or names man applied to God. Just my thoughts EdB |
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12 | Did Go call Himself, El Shaddai, first? | Gen 17:1 | Searcher56 | 78717 | ||
I have a problem with that ... "the Lord appeared to him and said, I am the Almighty God" to means He is telling us His name, not one of His attributes. | ||||||
13 | Did Go call Himself, El Shaddai, first? | Gen 17:1 | EdB | 78791 | ||
Searcher56 Is God telling us His name or who He is? There is a difference. For example if someone pulled you unconscious from a flaming wreck and then visited you in the hospital. You would instantly know him if he said I’m “the one that pulled you from the wreck” not because that is his name but that is how you know him. When God said I’m the Almighty God is he saying this is my name or this is an attribute that only I, God possesses. Again the only place I know God says this is my name is in the Exodus verse I cited. EdB |
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14 | Did Go call Himself, El Shaddai, first? | Gen 17:1 | Searcher56 | 78809 | ||
Let me disagree once more ... then be done. I think if it was an attribute, He would of said "I am God, who is Almighty" or something similiar. |
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15 | Did Go call Himself, El Shaddai, first? | Gen 17:1 | EdB | 78858 | ||
Searcher56 Okay, but I hope you know when your introduced to a policeman as Officer Davis you know his first name isn't "officer". Or that George W Bush's name didn't change when he resigned being governor and was elected president. Governor Bush to President Bush. :-) EdB |
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