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1 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | Holmes | 227024 | ||
Hi Beja, My suggestion was that Justme search the scriptures to determine if the USA is there or not. I then offered some ideas of what he might consider and some scriptures, which he might consider. The scriptures speak for themselves. I included 2 Samuel 7:10 because of the prophesy that the LORD would appoint a place for His people Israel and plant them. This was made at a time when David was King over all Israel. This task of planting Israel appears to have been given to Jeremiah: • Jer. 1:10 "See, I have appointed you this day over the nations and over the kingdoms, To pluck up and to break down, To destroy and to overthrow, To build and to plant." The Jews, those Hebrews of the Southern Kingdom of Judea, are the same ones which returned from Babylon as documented in Ezra and Nehemiah. They did not lose their identity as the Northern Kingdom of Israel did. The modern nation of Israel is Ancient Judea and not Ancient Israel. The Jewish population is about 14 million worldwide. About 42 percent of all Jews live in Israel, followed by the US with about 38 percent. Therefore, they did not fulfill the promises God made to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph. I’m not making any hints about where Israel was planted. However, the “multitude of nations” would need certain characteristics. They would be nations where circumcision is practiced: • Genesis 17: 11 And you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you. • 19 But God said, "No, but Sarah your wife will bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; and I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. For your consideration, Holmes |
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2 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | Beja | 227026 | ||
Holmes, You state that you are suggesting nothing, and that the scriptures simply speak for themselves. But obviously you have something in mind. You think that there is some reason that the scriptures you are posting have to do with the question being asked. Why not post some scriptures on the ten commandments? Or perhaps the sermon on the mount? Because they have nothing to do with the question. Why not post things said about Babylon in the book of Revelation? Because you don't believe babylon is the answer. You are posting these verses for some reason. If you wish to leave it with what you've said, that's fine. However, there is no reason to pretend you have no view point. I only wish you'd help us understand what you are trying to say. In Christ, Beja |
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3 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | Holmes | 227031 | ||
Beja, Of course I believe that the scriptures I posted are relevant to the question. The question is if the United States is mentioned in scripture as a nation. God made an unconditional promise to Abraham that his descendants would be numerous and a “multitude of nations.” Notice that the subject here is nation(s). I then traced that promise of a “multitude of nations” from Abraham to Isaac to Jacob to Joseph to Ephraim. This unconditional promise was one of actual physical nations and was a birthright: • Genesis 25:33 And Jacob said, "First swear to me"; so he swore to him, and sold his birthright to Jacob. • 1 Chronicles 5:1[ Genealogy from Reuben ] Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel (for he was the firstborn, but because he defiled his father's bed, his birthright was given to the sons of Joseph the son of Israel; so that he is not enrolled in the genealogy according to the birthright. • Jeremiah 31:9 . . . I am a father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn." We are in the Last Days and Jacob, when he blessed his sons told us what Joseph would look like: • Genesis 49:1 1Then Jacob summoned his sons and said, "Assemble yourselves that I may tell you what will befall you in the days to come. • 22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, A fruitful bough by a spring; Its branches run over a wall. 23 The archers bitterly attacked him, And shot at him and harassed him; 24 But his bow remained firm, And his arms were agile, From the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob Where are these nations today? Could the United States be one of them? For your consideration, Holmes |
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