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1 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | justme | 227002 | ||
Some say the United States is not even hinted of in the Bible. Could this mean the United Satates is going to be taken over by some other powerful country or group of countries? | ||||||
2 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | Holmes | 227018 | ||
Hi Justme, Your question assumes that the United States is not mentioned in scripture because some say it is not. You should seek the answer to that question in the scriptures to determine if it is true. The United States has only existed since 1776. Yet, in this short period of time it has become the world’s only remaining super power. It has been an extremely blessed nation, more so than any other nation in history. Nations mentioned in scripture are those that are populated by the descendants of a common ancestor. The United States would not be known by that name in scripture since it did not exist at the time. The English, the Anglo-Saxons, founded the colonies, which later became the United States. So when looking for the United States in scripture, you must take into consideration the entire British Empire, Scotland, Australia, Canada, etc., etc. Since the early 1600s the Anglo Saxons have been not only the preeminent world powers, but also in liberty and the spreading of the gospel, first the British Empire and then America. Here are some scriptures you may want to consider: • Genesis 17: 4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be the father of a multitude of nations. • 5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for the father of a multitude of nations have I made thee. • 6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee. God promised to make Abraham “a father of a multitude of nations.” Not just once, but three times. Some will argue that this was spiritually fulfilled with spiritual children of Abraham and they would be right. However, that does not negate the physical promise that was made to Abraham. Others will argue that this promise was fulfilled in Abraham’s son Ishmael, they would be wrong: • Genesis 21: 11 This upset Abraham very much because Ishmael was his son. 12 But God told Abraham, “Do not be upset over the boy and your servant. Do whatever Sarah tells you, for Isaac is the son through whom your descendants will be counted. • Genesis 17:16 And I will bless her (Sarah), and moreover I will give thee a son of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall be of her. The promise was also made to Sarah and Isaac inherited the promise from Abraham. Next, Jacob inherited the promise: • Genesis 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee (Jacob), and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a company of peoples. • Gensis 35: 10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. 11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins; • Genesis 48: 4 and said unto me (Jacob), Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a company of peoples, and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession. And Jacob gave this blessing to Ephraim, the son of Joseph. Note that this is not the line of Jesus and not, therefore, a spiritual promise, but a physical one: • Genesis 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it. He (Manasseh) also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: howbeit his younger brother (Ephraim) shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations. Ephraim became the Northern Kingdom of Israel, along with 9 of the other tribes. By the time they were taken into Assyrian captivity there were only 7,000 men left, who had not bowed the knee to Baal. Israel was told by God that they were not His people and He was not their God. However, God did not forget His promise: • Hosea 1:9And the LORD said, "Name him Lo-ammi, for you are not My people and I am not your God." 10Yet the number of the sons of Israel Will be like the sand of the sea, Which cannot be measured or numbered; And in the place Where it is said to them, "You are not My people," It will be said to them, "You are the sons of the living God." • 2 Samuel 7: 10"I will also appoint a place for My people Israel and will plant them, that they may live in their own place and not be disturbed again, nor will the wicked afflict them any more as formerly, 11even from the day that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel; and I will give you rest from all your enemies The LORD also declares to you that the LORD will make a house for you. I also suggest you read the blessing that Jacob gave to all his sons as contained in Genesis 49. Pay particular attention to the blessings given to Joseph. For your consideration, Holmes |
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3 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | Beja | 227021 | ||
Holmes, I find myself unable to understand what it is exactly that you are suggesting in your post. The closest I can come to any kind of assertion is that perhaps you are hinting at 2 Sam 7:10 being fulfilled by USA? Can you clarify what you are suggesting? In Christ, Beja |
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4 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | Holmes | 227024 | ||
Hi Beja, My suggestion was that Justme search the scriptures to determine if the USA is there or not. I then offered some ideas of what he might consider and some scriptures, which he might consider. The scriptures speak for themselves. I included 2 Samuel 7:10 because of the prophesy that the LORD would appoint a place for His people Israel and plant them. This was made at a time when David was King over all Israel. This task of planting Israel appears to have been given to Jeremiah: • Jer. 1:10 "See, I have appointed you this day over the nations and over the kingdoms, To pluck up and to break down, To destroy and to overthrow, To build and to plant." The Jews, those Hebrews of the Southern Kingdom of Judea, are the same ones which returned from Babylon as documented in Ezra and Nehemiah. They did not lose their identity as the Northern Kingdom of Israel did. The modern nation of Israel is Ancient Judea and not Ancient Israel. The Jewish population is about 14 million worldwide. About 42 percent of all Jews live in Israel, followed by the US with about 38 percent. Therefore, they did not fulfill the promises God made to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph. I’m not making any hints about where Israel was planted. However, the “multitude of nations” would need certain characteristics. They would be nations where circumcision is practiced: • Genesis 17: 11 And you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you. • 19 But God said, "No, but Sarah your wife will bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; and I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. For your consideration, Holmes |
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5 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | Beja | 227026 | ||
Holmes, You state that you are suggesting nothing, and that the scriptures simply speak for themselves. But obviously you have something in mind. You think that there is some reason that the scriptures you are posting have to do with the question being asked. Why not post some scriptures on the ten commandments? Or perhaps the sermon on the mount? Because they have nothing to do with the question. Why not post things said about Babylon in the book of Revelation? Because you don't believe babylon is the answer. You are posting these verses for some reason. If you wish to leave it with what you've said, that's fine. However, there is no reason to pretend you have no view point. I only wish you'd help us understand what you are trying to say. In Christ, Beja |
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6 | United States in Scripture? | Ps 82:8 | Holmes | 227031 | ||
Beja, Of course I believe that the scriptures I posted are relevant to the question. The question is if the United States is mentioned in scripture as a nation. God made an unconditional promise to Abraham that his descendants would be numerous and a “multitude of nations.” Notice that the subject here is nation(s). I then traced that promise of a “multitude of nations” from Abraham to Isaac to Jacob to Joseph to Ephraim. This unconditional promise was one of actual physical nations and was a birthright: • Genesis 25:33 And Jacob said, "First swear to me"; so he swore to him, and sold his birthright to Jacob. • 1 Chronicles 5:1[ Genealogy from Reuben ] Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel (for he was the firstborn, but because he defiled his father's bed, his birthright was given to the sons of Joseph the son of Israel; so that he is not enrolled in the genealogy according to the birthright. • Jeremiah 31:9 . . . I am a father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn." We are in the Last Days and Jacob, when he blessed his sons told us what Joseph would look like: • Genesis 49:1 1Then Jacob summoned his sons and said, "Assemble yourselves that I may tell you what will befall you in the days to come. • 22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, A fruitful bough by a spring; Its branches run over a wall. 23 The archers bitterly attacked him, And shot at him and harassed him; 24 But his bow remained firm, And his arms were agile, From the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob Where are these nations today? Could the United States be one of them? For your consideration, Holmes |
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