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1 | Take Your Holy Spirit from me? | Ps 51:11 | load | 166 | ||
A dear friend once admonished me to be careful when leading people (in worship) with the popular worship song "Create in me a clean heart". Can someone give me a good explanation that I might use regarding the idea (in this context) of God "taking His Spirit away"? | ||||||
2 | Take Your Holy Spirit from me? | Ps 51:11 | Scribe | 43051 | ||
? This admonishment from your friend sounds like the result of having to defend an unscriptural doctrine. He/she did not like that way the psalm was written and felt compelled to change it. This should have been a warning to him that they might have a wrong doctrine. The TRUTH does not need defending. I will sing and pray Psalms 51 as written and admonish anyone that would tell me not to that THEY should be carful that they are defending a man made doctrine. And if you don't think the Holy Spirit can be taken from a man then you do not have a healthy fear of God. If David had not of repented he would have ended up like Solomon sacrificing to false gods. New Testament christians can end up going back to what they were if they do not repent of sins that they are convicted of. Get rid of this strange idea that OT truth is false. Truth is eternal Truth never changed The Law and the Prophets did not become an untruth after the Cross The Law and the Prophets are understood in a fuller measure as a result of the Cross. The Jew is not bound to the ordinances of temple worship after the fulfillment of these things in Christ (the gentile never was) but the Truths that the temple worship were pointing to are eternal. The truth that the wages of sin is death is both a new testament and OT doctrine. No the Holy Spirit did not leave David, and it does not leave us if we have the heart of David and repent when convicted. But if David did not repent the Holy Spirit would have left. If a new testament saint hardens their heart and whispers peace and safety to themselves (with the help of the enemy) and refuses to repent of such things as fornication then they will eventually become apostate. But, you say this cannot happen, they will always eventually repent becuase they are born again and cannot stay in that miserable state. And to that I say amen, that is why you know them by their fruits. The saved repent. If one refuses to repent and dies in that state they are not saved. |
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3 | Take Your Holy Spirit from me? | Ps 51:11 | kalos | 43052 | ||
"No believer of the present Church Age need ever pray, 'Take not thy Holy Spirit from me'; for Christ promised His own that the Spirit would 'abide with you forever' (Jn. 14:16; compare Eph. 4:30). "But it is always proper for the Christian to pray that he may be conformed to the conditions essential to the full ministry of the Spirit." (note at Ps. 51:11, New Scofield Reference Bible, 1967, Oxford University Press) "In the O.T. economy, the Holy Spirit was particularly related to service, rather than salvation...Here David is asking God not to take away his service as the anointed king of Israel..." (p. 846, The Ryrie Study Bible, 1976, 1978, Moody Press) |
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4 | Take Your Holy Spirit from me? | Ps 51:11 | Scribe | 43055 | ||
The Holy Spirit will not abide in an unrepentant murderer, in the OT or the NT. But if a man is repentant then he has promise of the Holy Spirit adiding with him forever. Why is this point important? Because there are those that are fornicating behind the backs of their mates today while going to church on Sunday and saying they believe in a doctrine that they are still going to heaven but they will just loose some rewards when they get there. They obviously do not have the Holy Spirit even now if they really believe this. |
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5 | Take Your Holy Spirit from me? | Ps 51:11 | kalos | 43083 | ||
An unrepentant murderer is not and never was a believer, indwelt by the Holy Spirit. A man cannot lose what he never had to begin with. The fact remains: "No believer of the present Church Age need ever pray, 'Take not thy Holy Spirit from me'; for Christ promised His own that the Spirit would 'abide with you forever' (Jn. 14:16; compare Eph. 4:30). If I have to choose between the promises of the Lord Jesus Christ and your opinion, guess which one I'll choose? |
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6 | Take Your Holy Spirit from me? | Ps 51:11 | Scribe | 43109 | ||
Now don't get huffy :) | ||||||