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1 | Which part of a cedar? | Job 40:15 | heapshake | 37966 | ||
I've often seen people say that this can't refer to a hippo because its tail isn't like a cedar. Which part of a cedar is this verse refering too? If it is the trunk I could see this, but could it be a limb or needle? | ||||||
2 | Which part of a cedar? | Job 40:15 | Searcher56 | 37967 | ||
No | ||||||
3 | Why not? | Job 40:15 | heapshake | 38108 | ||
Why not? | ||||||
4 | Why not? | Job 40:15 | Makarios | 38110 | ||
Greetings heapshake! Job 40:17 states, "He bends his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together." (NASB) The English Standard Version does a little bit different rendition of this verse by stating, "He makes his tail stiff like a cedar.." The MacArthur Study Bible has an interesting quote here at this verse.. "40:15-24 behemoth. While this is a generic term used commonly in the OT for large cattle or land animals, the description in this passage suggests an extraordinary creature. The hippopotamus has been suggested by the details in the passage (vv. 19-24). However, the short tail of a hippo is hardly consistent with v.17, where tail could be translated "trunk." It could refer to an elephant, who could be considered "first" or chief of God's creatures whom only He can control (v.19). Some believe God is describing His most impressive creation of land animals, the dinosaur species, which fit all the characteristics." (1) I agree with the last statement by MacArthur, that the 'behemoth' spoken of in Job 40:15 would be describing a dinosaur. However, you posed a question of how the tail of this creature (behemoth) is like a cedar, or which part of a cedar is being symbolized. If you take a close look at the different renderings of this verse in the NASB and ESV above, then you will see that the NASB states that the creature's tail is "like a cedar", whereas the ESV states that the tail is "stiff like a cedar." In conclusion, its quite possible to say that the original intention of this verse was to compare the 'integrity' or strength of the creature's tail to a cedar tree, instead of its mobility or flexibility. And that interpretation does make sense to us today, since we still have cedar trees around, and we can see just how sturdy they are. Blessings to you, Makarios (1) MacArthur Study Bible (NKJV), 1997, Word Publishing, John MacArthur, Author and General Editor, http://www.gty.org |
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5 | I'm still not clear | Job 40:15 | heapshake | 38114 | ||
I'm still not clear why it can't be another part of the cedar. Even if it is "stiff like a cedar" can't it be stiff like a limb or needle? Why trunk? | ||||||
6 | I'm still not clear | Job 40:15 | Searcher56 | 38130 | ||
If I would say he looks like a cedar, would you look at the - main portion - the trunk - whole tree - roots - branches - leaves No matter which, it is the trunk, based on how people wrote in that time. |
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7 | More evidence | Job 40:15 | heapshake | 38252 | ||
I would look at whomever you are describing and see what part he looks like. If I can't - I'd ask more questions. Could you provide me with some evidence that that is how people wrote? |
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8 | More evidence | Job 40:15 | Makarios | 38259 | ||
Greetings heapshake, Why are you continuing this discussion? Is it for the sake of arguing? Searcher56 has answered your question, and so have I. Is there anything to be gained in continuing this fruitless discussion? To what end do you seek? Are you honestly asking this question out of sincerity? Searcher56 has no need of continuing to defend his answer or to answer any of these 'cedar' questions. - Makarios |
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9 | More evidence | Job 40:15 | heapshake | 38268 | ||
No it isn't for the sake of arguing. When I read that verse it doesn't jump out to me that it is talking about the trunk. I was trying to find reasons to believe that it did refer to the trunk. I don't have a problem with it being a trunk, limb, or needle. "No" didn't provide me with any info as to why it couldn't be. Your answer just changed it from being "bend" to "stiff" but didn't deal with stiff as what. Searcher56's last answer was what I was trying to get, but I would like to know what the reasons are for this answer. I'm looking for clarification. I don't doubt Searcher56's answer, but when someone asks me "Why can't it be a needle" I won't get very far saying Searcher56 says it can't. |
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10 | More evidence | Job 40:15 | Makarios | 38269 | ||
Thank you, heapshake, for clearing that up. I appreciate your willingness and efforts to solidify an answer, and I apologize for accusing you of continuing to argue with Searcher for the sake of arguing. I pray that Searcher56 will be able to provide you with the answer that you are looking for. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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11 | More evidence | Job 40:15 | heapshake | 38270 | ||
Its not a problem. This topic recently came up and I was just looking for something solid to base my reasons on. I'm not sure it has to deal with any one aspect of a cedar but probably deals with the cedar as a whole. When someone says "he swims like a fish" most people don't say which part of the fish are you refering to. However I can see that bending like a cedar could be unclear. | ||||||
12 | More evidence | Job 40:15 | popdzl | 38304 | ||
Heapshake, be of good cheer for I have the answer (or so I'd like to think.) The passage is talking about the cedar as whole, specifically the trunk which is more flexible compared with other trees which grow as tall and wide as cedars, e.g. the oak tree. | ||||||