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1 | Our Mortal Inheritance | Job 25:4 | DocTrinsograce | 168697 | ||
"By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion with God, and so became dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all the parts and faculties of soul and body. They being the root of all mankind, the guilt of this sin was imputed, and the same death in sin, and corrupted nature, conveyed to all their posterity descending from them by ordinary generation. From this original corruption, whereby we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions." --Westminster Confession "Learn, that all who deny this, call it original sin, or by any other title, are but Heathens still, in the fundamental point which differences Heathenism from Christianity. They may, indeed, allow, that men have many vices; that some are born with us; and that, consequently, we are not born altogether so wise or so virtuous as we should be; there being few that will roundly affirm, 'We are born with as much propensity to good as to evil, and that every man is, by nature, as virtuous and wise as Adam was at his creation.' But here is the shibboleth: Is man by nature filled with all manner of evil? Is he void of all good? Is he wholly fallen? Is his soul totally corrupted? Or, to come back to the text, is 'every imagination of the thoughts of his heart only evil continually?' Allow this, and you are so far a Christian. Deny it, and you are but an Heathen still." --John Wesley "As a result of Adam's sin we all enter the world with a fallen nature. This is original sin--the sinful tendencies, desires, and dispositions in our hearts with which we are all born. Thus, original sin is something inherent in us -- it is a morally ruined character. The original sin that we are all born with manifests itself throughout our lives in actual sins -- the actions, thoughts, and feelings we have that violate God's moral commands. So our sinful hearts (original sin) cause us to make sinful choices, think sinful thoughts, and feel sinful feelings (actual sins). We are not sinners because we sin; rather, we sin because we are sinners. We are all born totally imprisoned in original sin. There is no island of goodness left in us." --John Piper |
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2 | Our Mortal Inheritance | Job 25:4 | mark d seyler | 168703 | ||
Is this then, in your opinion, a salvation issue? You posted: "But here is the shibboleth: Is man by nature filled with all manner of evil? Is he void of all good? Is he wholly fallen? Is his soul totally corrupted? Or, to come back to the text, is 'every imagination of the thoughts of his heart only evil continually?' Allow this, and you are so far a Christian. Deny it, and you are but an Heathen still." --John Wesley I certainly agree with the quoted Scripture (I would personally use Genesis 8:21 for it's more generalized wording), but does this give a correct view of what is required for salvation? So the person who trusts in Jesus' sacrifice would not be saved if they held a wrong view of the nature of man? Love in Christ, Mark |
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