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1 | Women pastors... | 1 Timothy | AcquiescentAngel | 228119 | ||
To be as gentle as I can...the words...'I think' are not what I'm looking for...I need scripture. This scripture does NOT say anything about women becoming Pastors or not becoming Pastors...it says that we are to 'teach' other women as well as children...Can anybody show me in scripture whether or not a 'woman' of God should be a Pastor. | ||||||
2 | Women pastors... | 1 Timothy | John Ryals | 228122 | ||
Good Morning, I may have some scriptures and some historical comments and views that may increase our visions in this thread. First, I believe Paul was setting some guidelines for the Church of Ephesus through Timothy. These letters were to Timothy, because he had been placed into an elderly position with this Church. If I may, I would like to expound on the verses 2:9-15, which the great Apostle Paul wrote, constituted by our Lord Jesus Christ about 'Women's Guidelines' within the Church. I believe I am correct in saying that verse 11 says, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection." As I look at the condition of the Church today, I ask myself, "Are there qualified men of God who can take the position of Teacher?" Of course there are, but I believe, if there were not any, then I would appreciate a woman standing up and leading the Gospel, so lost souls may come to understand what sin is about, bringing about Holy Spirit conviction, which would cause lost souls to want to repent and turn from wicked ways. After all, Is this not what preaching the Gospel is About? Leading others to the Cross? I know verse 12 states, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." I have to believe when Paul was writing this letter to Timothy, he was adressing this issue because there were some discrepencies going on in the Church at Ephesus. Again, let me say that verse 12 does deal with a woman's mannerism in the Church, but this is a letter to Timothy about the Church at Ephesus. Again, if a male teacher is more qualified, he should take the lead: otherwise the woman can do so. Her 'silence,' regarding teachings; unless there is no qualified man, which is the case at times, and this is out of the guidlines the Holy Spirit has set. It's time for men of God to stand up and be teachers of the Gospel and quit being cowards! In the Book of Joel, Chapter 2, verse 28; "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions." The spirit shall be poured out upon some of each sex. Not your sons only, but your daughters, shall prophesy; we read of four sisters in one family that were prophetesses, Acts 21:9. Not the parents only, but the children, shall be filled with the Spirit, which intimates the continuance of this gift for some ages successively in the church. In the 2nd Chapter of Acts, on 'The Day of Penecost' and when it was fully come, Peter spoke of this prophesy by the Prophet Joel, [Acts 2:16-17.] Our God is soveriegn! He can do anything he must do in order to fulfill His prophecies, and to accomplish what He started. We must think, If he can make a Donkey speak, could he not make a woman a preacher or a teacher or a Pastor? May God Bless You, John Ryals |
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3 | Women pastors... | 1 Timothy | DocTrinsograce | 228124 | ||
Dear John, You wrote, "...if a male teacher is more qualified, he should take the lead: otherwise the woman can do so..." Doing that which is right, the wrong way, is worse than simply doing wrong (cf Leviticus 10:1-3; 1 Samuel 15:22-23). I agree that our God is sovereign. Therefore, if our sovereign God is not pleased to provide a qualified teacher, then why should we attempt to patch things up for Him? That kind of presumption is a very dangerous thing! (See Deuteronomy 18:20; Ezekiel 13:6; Jeremiah 28:15-17; etc.) Also, I have long taught my children the careful distinction between the words can, may, and ought. The word can is a matter of capability; the word may is a matter of discretion; and the word ought is a matter of regulation. I might not be categorizing these words with perfect linguistic legitimacy. Nonetheless, the differences between them is immense. Considering the weighty responsibility we have in accurately communicating the truth of God (2 Peter 3:14-16) and the fact that our every word will be judged (Matthew 12:36-37), let us encourage one another to be as precise as we can be. Relative to the question at hand, please see my post #228123 to AcquiescentAngel. In Him, Doc |
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4 | Women pastors... | 1 Timothy | John Ryals | 228126 | ||
"LYDIA,THE FIRST EUROPEON CONVERT' "And a certain woman name Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us : whose hearts the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul." [Acts 16:14] God has made great use of women, and greatly honored them in the kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Holy women ministered to our Lord when he was upon the earth, and since that time much sacred work has been done by their patient hands. Man and woman fell together; together they must rise. After the resurrection, it was a woman who was first commissioned to carry the glad tidings of the risen Christ; and in Europe, where woman was in future days to be set free from many of the trammels of the East, it seems fitting that a woman should be the first believer. Not only, however, was Lydia a sort of first-fruit for Europe, but probably also became a witness in her own city of Thyatira, in Asia. We do not know how the gospel was introduced into that city; but we are informed of the existence of a church there by the message of the ascended Christ, through his servant John, to "the angel of the church in Thyatira." Very likely Lydia became the herald of the gospel in her native place. Let the women who know the truth proclaim it; for why should their influence be lost? "The Lord giveth the word; the women that publish the tidigs are a great host." Women can be as powerful for the evil as for good: we see it in this very church of Thyatira, where the woman Jezebel, who called herself a prophetess, sought to seduce many from the truth. Seeing, then, that the devil employs women in his service, let those women whom God has called by his grace be doubly earnest in seeking to prevent or undo the mischief that others are working. If not called to public service, all have the home-sphere wherein they can shed forth the aroma of a godly life and testimony. May God Bless You, John Ryals |
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5 | Women pastors... | 1 Timothy | DocTrinsograce | 228127 | ||
Dear John, Over the years we notice that some forum participants prefer to use the words of others rather than invest the time, energy, and effort in composing their own. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. For example, bringing a particularly well written quote from someone with greater authority, ability, or knowledge than our own can often be edifying to us all. Of course, when we fail to attribute to the rightful owner the words we use, it becomes a different matter. This is what is called plagiarism -- which is just a fancy word for stealing. Its a bit worse than that, however, because it is also an effort to elicit admiration for prowess of intellect, creativity, and industry that rightly belongs to someone else. Consequently, this sort of behavior is rooted in violations of at least two and perhaps three of the Ten Commandments; i.e., it is sin. Nothing rooted in sin will bring benefit, either to ourselves or to those around us. Indeed, underhanded behavior only detracts from the argument. It brings doubt to our character, as well as the character of the organizations to which we belong. It demonstrates an allegiance to the spirit of the age, not to the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, failure to properly annotate is an explicit violation of the agreement we have signed when we created our account on the forum. Indeed, every time we post we click a button that says "I Agree." Our gracious host has specific legal requirements by which they can operate. The terms by which we quote are part and parcel of those requirements. Please, in the future, show greater respect for the Lord, the Lockman Foundation, and your fellow forum members by employing the highest possible standards of veracity. Better not to post at all if it is done on any other basis. In Him, Doc |
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