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1 | how do we know people we never met | Luke | laughlin | 171053 | ||
Will we be happy in heaven knowing some family members are in hell. | ||||||
2 | how do we know people we never met | Luke | LuvHisWurds | 171054 | ||
It is my belief (loosely based on Luke 16) that we will not have recollection or knowledge of those that are not there for two reasons: 1) While Lazarus recognized the beggar, there is no indication that the beggar recognized or was aware of Lazarus. 2) In, Rev 21:4, there is a promise of no more crying or pain (of which having recollections of love ones lost would cause). I must admit - there is a looseness with belief and this is being presented as opinion. |
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3 | how do we know people we never met | Luke | DocTrinsograce | 171058 | ||
Dear Luv, Please excuse my minor intrusion here. Your conclusion may be correct, but the way you are getting there is faulty. In regard to Lazarus: If the story of Lazarus and Dives is narrative, as some see it, then your conclusion would be drawing doctrine from narrative -- something that should be earnestly eschewed in a sound hermeneutic. If the story of Lazarus and Dives is a parable, as others have see it, then it is drawing information from the parable other than the point -- another practice that sound hermeneutics would avoid. In regard to Revelation 21:4, you are making an inference based on our present understanding, values, and reactions. In glory we will be utterly transformed. In that state, we will better see the great wisdom, wonder, glory, and holiness of God. His actions are always perfect in every way. Might we not just as easily rejoice as feel sorrow at the sight of those receiving their just retribution? It is difficult to say, because we do not now "see even as we are seen." I seem to recall a passage that addresses this question more directly. It is either in Isaiah or Ezekiel. I wish I could put my finger on it. It supports your conclusion, but in a way that properly handles the Word. If the Lord wills, I will post it when I remember. I was reading John Piper last night ("Let the Nations be Glad"). This quote might be pertinent to our discussion: "...the infinite horrors of hell are intended by God to be a vivid demonstration of the infinite value of His glory, which sinners have belittled. The biblical assumption of the justice of hell is the clearest testimony to the infiniteness of the sin of failing to glorify God. All of us have failed. All the nations have failed. Therefore the weight of infinite guilt rests on every human head because of our failure to delight in God more than we delight in our own self-sufficiency. The vision of God in Scripture is of a majestic and sovereign God who does all things to magnify the greatness of His glory for the everlasting enjoyment of His people. And the view of man in Scripture is that man suppresses this truth and finds more joy in his own glory than he does in God's." If we were "conflicted" over the justice of hell, then we would not have an appropriate appreciation of God's glory. I'm not saying that glorified humans will never be conflicted -- I know God is never conflicted, and I doubt glorified humans will be -- but I'm suggesting that our appreciation of the glory of God will be such that all us will fade into insignificance. In Him, Doc |
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4 | how do we know people we never met | Luke | LuvHisWurds | 171068 | ||
Tha k you for your response. I don't have an issue with formulating doctrine from either Jesus' words or parables. Both were used by Jesus to teach of the kingdom (please see 2 John 1:9-1; John 1:1). In Him, Don |
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5 | how do we know people we never met | Luke | DocTrinsograce | 171073 | ||
Hi, Don... That's correct parables are, indeed, didactic in nature. However, parables always teach a single point. Drawing multiple points from them goes beyond their original intent. Lazarus and Dives was not a parable given to believers to enable them to understand the afterlife. Instead, it was a parable directed at the Pharisees (see Luke 15:16a). Context is everything when it comes to proper interpretation. Speaking of parables: If you like, I'd commend you to post #157835. There I offer the general principles that a student of the scripture ought to apply in order to arrive at a sound exegesis of parabolic teaching. In Him, Doc |
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