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461 Baptism by water is not necessary 1 Pet 3:21 Sir Pent 59434
  Personal Note ........................................
Dear TRJ1221,
Thank for sharing your ideas, but this topic has been debated extensively previously on this site. In the future perhaps you could do a search first and add your comments to an existing thread. Starting a whole new one just causes a hanging primary note to stick around for a while.
462 Do you have to be baptized to be saved? 1 Pet 3:21 Sir Pent 59558
  A Different View .............................................
Dear Romans4:5,
The Word of God is my guide, and I am not a Baptist, yet I agree with Hank. Your teaching that Baptism is forbidden is definately not an orthodox belief. It goes against the totality of scripture. It doesn’t make sense logically. It goes against thousands of years of church tradition, and it doesn’t fit my personal experience either. Basically, it’s just way out there, and anyone reading this thread should take it with a whole shaker of salt.
463 What does baptism consist? 1 John 5:6 Sir Pent 23546
  Clarification ...................................
Dear Tim S.
I found this last post of yours to be very helpful in understanding how you see Baptism. I too think that your beliefs are closer to those of most others on this forum than it first appears.

It seems to me that you primarily see Baptism as the burial view (being buried with Christ and then ressurected as a new forgiven creation). Therfore, it doesn't make sense to you for a person to be saved and then go back and be buried again.

I'd like to possibly help you see it a little differently. If the water itself actually "accomplished" the burial and resurrection, then your view would be logical. However, if the water is "symbolic" of the burial and resurrection, then the timeing is less relevant.

For instance, we shoot fireworks in America on Independance Day, July 4th. These are symbols. The fireworks do not grant us independance, and are incapable of earning us independance. Besides that, we actually gained our independance over 200 years ago. Yet we still shoot them off as a way to celebrate and show the world that we are free.

Baptism is similar. It is a Christian's way of celebrating their salvation (through faith in Christ), and showing those around them that they have chosen to be buried and become a new forgiven creation. It is an important symbol to participate in, because the Bible says to do it, and because it gives evidence that we are not ashamed of our faith. But it is still a symbol.
464 Salvation a mystery in OT Rev 1:1 Sir Pent 117158
  Personal Note.......................................................
Hello again Kalos,

Another excellent post my friend. I think that I'll add this to my list of posts that I refer people to. It is the best I've seen so far at summarizing a salvation message purely from the Old Testament.
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