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|41||Heb. 6:4-6 Security||Gen 1:1||lightedsteps||219882|
There is one idea which has occurred to us. It has struck us as a singular thing, that our friends should hold that men can be converted, made into new creatures, then fall away and be converted again. I am an old creature by nature; God creates me into a new thing, he makes me a new creature. I cannot go back into an old creature, for I cannot be uncreated. But yet, supposing that new creature ship of mine is not good enough to carry me to heaven. What is to come after that? Must there be something above a new creature—a new creature. Really, my friends, we have got into the country of Dreamland; but we were forced to follow our opponents into that region of absurdity, for we do not know how else to deal with them.
And one thought more. There is nothing in Scripture which teaches us that there is any salvation, save the one salvation of Jesus Christ—nothing that tells us of any other power, super-excellent and surpassing the power of the Holy Spirit. These things have already been tried on the man, and yet, according to the supposition, they have failed, for he has fallen away. Now, God has never revealed a supplementary salvation for men on whom one salvation has had no effect; and until we are pointed to one scripture which declares this, we will still maintain that the doctrine of the text is this: that if grace be ineffectual, if grace does not keep a man, then there is nothing left but that he must be damned. And what is that but to say, only going a little round about, that grace will do it? So that these words, instead of militating against the Calvinistic doctrine of final perseverance, form one of the finest proofs of it that could be afforded.
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|Hi mr. Beja
Wow you not only read fast you answer the same way.
let me say Me. Sourgeon does give what I consider to be a pretty good reason for everything that the Apostle said. so here it is. This is what he said would be the improvement on the doctrine which he referred to in my Part (7)
Thanks for the reply
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And now, lastly, we come to improve this doctrine. If Christians can fall away, and cease to be Christians, they cannot be renewed again to repentance. "But," says one, "You say they cannot fall away." What is the use of putting this "if" in, like a bugbear to frighten children, or like a ghost that can have no existence? My learned friend, "Who art thou that repliest against God?" If God has put it in, he has put it in for wise reasons and for excellent purposes. Let me show you why. First, O Christian, it is put in to keep thee from falling away. God preserves his children from falling away; but he keeps them by the use of means; and one of these is, the terrors of the law, showing them what would happen if they were to fall away. There is a deep precipice: what is the best way to keep any one from going down there? Why, to tell him that if he did he would inevitably be dashed to pieces. In some old castle there is a deep cellar, where there is a vast amount of fixed air and gas, which would kill anybody who went down. What does the guide say? "If you go down you will never come up alive." Who thinks of going down? The very fact of the guide telling us what the consequences would be, keeps us from it. Our friend puts away from us a cup of arsenic; he does not want us to drink it, but he says, "If you drink it, it will kill you." Does he suppose for a moment that we should drink it. No; he tells us the consequences, and he is sure we will not do it. So God says, "My child, if you fall over this precipice you will be dashed to pieces." What does the child do? He says, "Father, keep me; hold thou me up, and I shall be safe." It leads the believer to greater dependence on God, to a holy fear and caution, because he knows that if he were to fall away he could not be renewed, and he stands far away from that great gulf, because he know that if he were to fall into it there would be no salvation for him. If I thought as the Arminian thinks, that I might fall away, and then return again, I should pretty often fall away, for sinful flesh and blood would think it very nice to fall away, and be a sinner, and go and see the play at the theatre, or get drunk, and then come back to the Church, and be received again as a dear brother who had fallen away for a little while. No doubt the minister would say, "Our brother Charles is a little unstable at times." A little unstable! He does not know anything about grace; for grace engenders a holy caution, because we feel that if we were not preserved by Divine power we should perish. We tell our friend to put oil in his lamp, that it may continue to burn! Does that imply that it will be allowed to go out? No, God will give him oil to pour into the lamp continually. Like John Bunyan's figure; there was a fire, and he saw a man pouring water upon it. "Now," says the Preacher, "don't you see that fire would go out, that water is calculated to put it out, and if it does, it will never be lighted again;" but God does not permit that! for there is a man behind the wall who is pouring oil on the fire; and we have cause for gratitude in the fact, that if the oil were not put in by a heavenly hand, we should inevitably be driven to destruction. Take care, then Christian, for this is a caution.
2. It is to excite our gratitude. Suppose you say to your little boy, "Don't you know Tommy, if I were not to give you your dinner and your supper you would die? There is nobody else to give Tommy dinner and supper." What then? The child does not think that you are not going to give him his dinner and supper; he knows you will, and he is grateful to you for them. The chemist tells us, that if there were no oxygen mixed with the air, animals would die. Do you suppose that there will be no oxygen, and therefore we shall die? No, he only teaches you the great wisdom of God, in having mixed the gases in their proper proportions. Says one of the old astronomers, "There is great wisdom in God, that he has put the sun exactly at a right distance—not so far away that we should be frozen to death, and not so near that we should be scorched." He says, "If the sun were a million miles nearer to us we should be scorched to death." Does the man suppose that the sun will be a million miles nearer, and, therefore, we shall be scorched to death? He says, "If the sun were a million miles farther off we should be frozen to death." Does he mean that the sun will be a million miles farther off, and therefore we shall be frozen to death? Not at all. Yet it is quite a rational way of speaking, to show us how grateful we should be to God. So says the Apostle. Christian! if thou shouldst fall away, thou couldst never be renewed unto repentance. Thank thy Lord, then, that he keeps thee.
"See a stone that hangs in air; see a spark in ocean live;
Kept alive with death so near; I to God the glory give."
|44||Heb. 6:4-6 Security||Gen 1:1||lightedsteps||219886|
There is a cup of sin which would damn thy soul, O Christian. Oh! what grace is that which holds thy arm, and will not let thee drink it? There thou art, at this hour, like the bird-catcher of St. Kilda, thou art being drawn to heaven by a single rope; if that hand which holds thee let thee go, if that rope which grasps thee do but break, thou art dashed on the rocks of damnation. Lift up thine heart to God, then, and bless him that his arm is not wearied, and is never shortened that it cannot save. Lord Kenmure, when he was dying, said to Rutherford. "Man! my name is written on Christ's hand, and I see it! that is bold talk, man, but I see it!" Then, if that be the case, his hand must be severed from his body before my name can be taken from him; and if it be engraven on his heart, his heart must be rent out before they can rend my name out.
Hold on, then, and trust believer! thou hast "an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, which entereth within the veil." The winds are bellowing, the tempests howling; should the cable slip, or thine anchor break, thou art lost. See those rocks, on which myriads are driving, and thou art wrecked there if grace leave thee; see those depths, in which the skeletons of sailors sleep, and thou art there, if that anchor fail thee. It would be impossible to moor thee again, if once that anchor broke; for other anchor there is none, other salvation there can be none, and if that one fail thee, it is impossible that thou ever shouldst be saved. Therefore thank God that thou hast an anchor that cannot fail, and then loudly sing—
"How can I sink with such a prop,
As my eternal God,
Who bears the earth's huge pillars up?
And spreads the heavens abroad?"
How can I die, when Jesus lives,
Who rose and left the dead?
Pardon and grace my soul receives,
From my exalted head."
|45||Heb. 6:4-6 Security||Gen 1:1||lightedsteps||219887|
|Hi again Mr. Beja
Now as far as I understand and believe these three verses they are the anchor so to speak that says and defines for us who believe there is No Loss of Salvation for the Sons of God. There is no other place in scripture that has condensed this belief into one teaching something we can hold on to as an assurance to our souls in Gods own words I Hold you in My hand You Are Safe NOW.
|46||Heb. 6:4-6 Security||Gen 1:1||lightedsteps||219888|
Your statements are numbered my explanations underneath are not.
(1) His point is that the author is in reality presenting an impossible scenario.
Your right Beja the author is presenting an impossible scenario he clearly says that in v.4 that is how he started his teaching. "For it is impossible"
(2) He is talking about true saved people,
Your right again as he said a child would come to the this conclusion if he read these passages.
(3) he is talking about real falling away of saved people,
Right again but this is where the author has to insert the IF in v. 6 because he originally stated that it was impossible then he went on to describe who he was talking about ending with the fact the ones he has spoken of could not ever fall away.
(4) and he asserts that such a situation would render salvation impossible for that individual.
your statement is confusing to me so I will state it the way he says it is.
The coming back to the point of another salvation repentance again. Jesus died once for him.
(5) Only the author of Hebrews point is that this could never happen.
Last but not least you are Right again.
To put it into todays language
It is impossible for anyone that has gained salvation through the grace of God to ever lose that salvation.
In other words to fall away.
But if they ever could then it would be as impossible for them to ever come back to the point of a new salvation for them because they have rejected the first one provided for them by Jesus Himself. At this point the only other reference I will use is Heb 10:26-31
What he is actually saying is.
It is impossible for you to fall away but if you could. Sort of a catch 22
(6) Now, to me the real crucial point of such a take on the passage, is that you must show a reason the author of Hebrews would have said this. It has to contribute to his argument in some way or form. In other words, why would the author of Hebrews have ever brought up a situation that will never happen? It has to have some contribution to the larger context.
I think Mr Spurgeon answered your question pretty well in the last of my posts 10, 11
I think I understand what you have meant it seems like an insertion into the text because it doesn't follow the whole narrative of the chapter. My ref. in Heb 10 has a rather good context that works because the author says close to the same thing. But this time it follows the narrative.
nice having someone to discuss thoughts with
|47||Savior of the Whole Earth||Gen 1:1||lightedsteps||219929|
|Unto us a child was born, unto us His Son was given.
The LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God,
Peace On Earth Good Will Toward All Men, Merry Christmas, People
|48||Heb. 6:4-6 Security||Gen 1:1||lightedsteps||219961|
Your thoughts on Spurgeon's sermon,
"I was hoping for more on how this fits into the context. I am not saying he is wrong or right, but due to the great contention over this passage I was hoping he would make his case stronger."
Are you saying that based solely on the fact Spurgeon did not make a stronger case by bringing it back to the context of the entire passage you cannot accept his interpretation as correct?
As you have stated there is great contention over this passage. Has anyone else made a better case by doing those things you say?
"Basically I think if one was to debate the issue and argue his view two things would need to be established in light of what he said."
1. First it would need to be established that the notion of unshakeable salvation was so imbedded into the author and reader's thinking, that they would have understood an impossible situation was being discussed as Spurgeon is suggesting.
There is no such assertion in the text. The only way you can put it there is to consider it "a given."
It is hard for us to understand the beliefs held by those of the first church.
We do not have the benefit of hearing firsthand what the Apostles taught.
If the assertion you are referring to is missing.
Was it Spurgeon or the Author of Hebrews that failed to make this assertion?
1) It must have been the author because "There is no such assertion in the text" then there must have been the "GIVEN" in the authors mind.
Is that then what Spurgeon has seen which would then account for his lack of connecting it to the context of the passage in which it appears.
Because it is a truth an understanding that would stand on its own merit.
Therefore it became an interjection by the author in his teaching to a people that new these things.
Does a truth of God that has not been connected to the overall context of the book or chapter in which it appears cease to be a truth?
We need to understand and remember these books were written to churches that didn't have the canon of scripture that we possess today. They didn't have the benefit of understanding how things are to be read in context and in light of other scripture. Therefore did they have a better or different understanding of the reality of salvation than we do today? Where these things we need weren't needed by them. We only have what has been written and the interpretations of those teachings.
We on the other hand have what could be called denominational doctrines. These doctrines can be arrived at when reading exactly the same piece of scripture but coming to opposing doctrines.
12) Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
3) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4) For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
Because of the differences in our beliefs today are we not yet carnal? What have we lost?
What I am saying is there are truths to be found in the bible that we will never be able to come to or believe in or avail ourselves of because our doctrinal beliefs have shut the door to those truths.
If it is a contextual issue on your part then doesn't chapter 10 satisfy that?
|49||Heb. 6:4-6 Security||Gen 1:1||lightedsteps||219985|
I can honestly say we are of the same mind as far as the irrevocable nature of our salvation. I also respect your integrity as for your seeking of the truth. I feel a mutual striving for this illusive knowledge. Always keeping in mind our God is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him.
You are right I do the same thing as I believe everyone that desires to possess the truth should do.
Never giving up for in our indever we are in effect seeking knocking and asking. With that in mind we know we will be rewarded by God. He has promised our labors will not be in vain.
We should persevere being diligent to rightly divide the word of truth.
A tool that I have used most often is to recite a passage (I am having trouble understanding) out loud attempting to capture the same tone as the author meant them. Even as though God Himself was speaking these very words to me.
I have found when I do this if I take these words spoken in the bible personally I can then hear the truth to be found in them. In doing so I have experienced God speaking His word to me in such a way that it has at times changed the belief I had in a certain passage.
When we read the bible we do so with our reason our intellect we also interpret what is being taught within the passage comparing what we are reading with what we already know. There are times "we" might be getting in our own way.
But when we read a passage out loud that we are having trouble with we then only hear it our brains are incapable of speaking hearing reasoning interpreting comparing at the same time. Our intellect then is effectively bypassed. If we are intent on speaking the words as they would have been said we will then hear them as the would have been meant.
At this point I would advise you to read from Hebrews 5:11 through 6:9 this seems as though it could be a complete thought all of which would then be in context.
Maybe your hearing it rather than studying it will help. We have a tendency to keep seeing the same things over and over again.
My prayer is that this will aid in your understanding
|50||Pray always pray, said Paul. What is the||Gen 1:1||lightedsteps||223447|
Welcome to the forum
Prayer, is the actual process of verbalizing our thoughts, and emotions to God.
prayer (worship); by implication an (oratory): - pray earnestly, prayer.
to pray to God, that is, supplicate, worship: - pray (earnestly, for), make prayer.
to wish; by implication to pray to God: - pray, will, wish.
Supplication, can be a synonym for prayer, it is therefore a form, type, style or the way of Prayer
a petition: - prayer, request, supplication.
to beg (as binding oneself), that is, petition: - beseech, pray (to), make request; which involves the idea of urgent need.
Grace be unto you
These are just some other thoughts on the matter, yes it does say the evening, and the day, which we take to be 24 hrs.
But God spoke things into being, except the Man, and the Woman. Are we then to believe it took our Sovereign God, 6 literal days to speak, when He could speak it all in one breath?
Therefore if He chose to take the literal 6 days by the 24 hr. clock, couldn't he as easily have stretched that 24 hrs. to be thousands of yrs. to fulfill His purpose?
I'm not in any way trying to defend or speak for this ("Theistic evolution") theory as you call it. I never heard of it before you mentioned it.
But do we blindly discount all of the Geological findings? When we know from looking at a volcano, that it takes thousands of yrs. to make an Island like Hawaii, and the others.
One thing more, just when does time as we know it, actually begin, upon the creation of the SUN, or upon the creation of the MAN, he is the one that is aware of the passage of time, to me time does not exist without the comprehension of time. In the same way, If a tree falls in the forest, and there is no one there to hear it, is there a sound? NO, because there is the requirement for the person to be present, other wise there is just NOISE, with the person hearing it, it becomes sound, because it is comprehended as a tree falling. Man was created on the sixth day, not day one.
Gen 2:4 (KJV)
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
If we are to take the creation story literally as you believe, a literal seven day period of time, how then do the (Heavens, and Earth) have (Generations)?
Gen 2:4 (NASB)
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.
If we are to take the creation story literally as you believe, a literal seven day period of time, how then are we to understand ("in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.") according to the Theory of Literal thinking, then God created everything in (One Day).
2Pe 3:8 (KJV)
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
How do we take this verse literally, if one day is as one thousand years, could this then mean, the (Heavens, and Earth) were created in (Six Thousand Years)?
2 Pet. 3:8 (NASB)
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
Or are we to understand that the (One Thousand Years) referred to, would mean (No Definite Time) at all,
in the same way that Jesus said to Peter.
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
When we take this to mean a literal (Seventy Times Seven) then after four hundred ninety times of turning our cheek we then are allowed to hit back. But we know that Jesus was saying always turn the other cheek no end of taking the hit.
Or this which was spoken by Jesus, do we take it literally as well?
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Seems like we would have a lot of blind Christians walking around.
Grace be unto you
|52||tower of Babel people come from?||Gen 10:10||lightedsteps||220176|
Just by the asking of your question you have answered it.
There weren't any people left besides Noah and his family.
Therefore who else would have built it except the descendants of Noah.
Look up Gen.10 and 11
|53||A cripple or blind Pastor should'nt be?||Lev 21:24||lightedsteps||222774|
As you can see, this verse of scripture only pertains to the descendants of Aaron. Because it was a position that was designated by God for His service in the Temple, and was therefore a family position. The position does not fall under the category of something under the Old Covenant, and therefore not relating to us under the New Covenant.
It would I am sure, still be in effect in the Jewish religion, but not in any Christian religion, solely on the grounds, it was to the direct descendants of Aaron.
No man that hath a blemish (OF THE SEED OF AARON THE PRIEST) shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.
Grace be unto you
|54||Biblical basis for Revival||2 Chronicles||lightedsteps||220446|
|What would the Biblical basis for Revival be.
Is there an account of such an event taking place, as we now see it practiced yearly in the Churches?
|55||Biblical basis for Revival||2 Chronicles||lightedsteps||220459|
First of all thank you for the response.
But this verse you have submitted doesn't really give us an outline for having a revival within the church and it doesn't quite fit the context of our annual practice of revival does it?
I am trying to determine if it was God ordained or is it just a good idea by man for the purpose of Evangelism. When did the yearly revival begin I am assuming in the 1800's.
|56||equipement dedication.||Ezra 6:17||lightedsteps||220385|
|Just some question's in return.
(1.) Why would you assume this would be wrong to do?
(2.) The Alter - - the House of God - - and the wall of Jerusalem were all dedicated.
(3.) Did not all of the implements to be used in the Tabernacle of the Congregation in the wilderness have to be sanctified before use?
(4.) Did not all of the implements to be used in Solomon's Temple have to be Sanctified before use?
Definition - - Dedicate
To set apart for religious purposes; consecrate, to set aside for or assign to a specific function, task, or purpose, to set apart for a special use:
Consecrate and Sanctify are synonyms of the word Dedicate.
If your father in law has donated equipment for the Church to use wouldn't it be the same thing?
If something is going to be used in the service of God why shouldn't it be dedicated for that purpose?
|57||Is every scripture really error-free?||Prov 6:31||lightedsteps||223283|
"Over many years, I have been the victim of a number of scam artists, who robbed me of many, many thousands of dollars,"
There is a saying,
"You cannot cheat an honest man."
The First Rule of the Con is that YOU CANNOT CHEAT AN HONEST MAN! It is fundamental to the success of a grifter, and con-men the world over. An honest man does not expect to get something for nothing, and therefore he cannot be lured in by that which is too good to be true. A dishonest person on the other hand jumps at the opportunity to get something for nothing, something that he knows is not rightfully his, and he is therefore easy to lure in. He is easy to cheat. ......American Chronicle
With that in mind, your position then, is always to turn the other cheek.
If you are looking for a fast buck, your loss then falls on you, but if you are taken advantage of unknowingly, then your position is to forgive as you have been forgiven Matt.6:9
Grace be unto you
|58||Can a congragent hear form God ?||Jer 33:3||lightedsteps||223010|
This is one of those questions that helped fuel the Protestant Reformation, the question of the infallibility of the Pope is still debated 500 yrs. later.
The direct answer to your question is "YES" God does speak to persons, as far as the pastor he is
only a person, he is not endued with special hearing powers, everybody in his church have the same ability to hear from God as he does.
Take to heart, "ALL" of the answers, and scriptures you have been given in this thread.
Your question sounds as though you have questions, about what your pastor is teaching, that you feel you cannot confront the pastor with.
Grace be unto you
|59||Can a congragent hear form God ?||Jer 33:3||lightedsteps||223025|
Maybe you should re-read my post I did not say he did, to the contrary.
"he is "NOT" endued with special hearing powers"
Post I.D. 223010
Grace be unto you
|60||Is forgiving the unrepentent scriptural?||Matthew||lightedsteps||223284|
"When Jesus was dying on the cross, He said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do." Was His request granted by the Father, or not? If so, wouldn't that mean that everyone was forgiven of every sin and transgression forevermore, with "no repentence required" at any time?"
Jesus also said before His crucifixion
17) Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18) No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
He was saying He would lay down His life for the sins of the world, so when He said in.
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
He was speaking of the men that were doing the actual crucifixion. Because no man took His life, He laid it down.
Your use of this next verse
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Your not taking into account, it is a brother that is spoken of, not just some other person in society.
With that in mind, the brother that will not admit his trespass towards you, is not doing what is right in the sight of God, and the church. There are still penalties for our actions even though we are saved.
Using your choice of scripture.
12) And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
13) And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Understand, this was the TEMPLE of GOD not just some building.
Jesus said to them, "My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."
Just to put it into perspective for you.
Would you be angry if people came into your house, and started selling things, "This was HIS house!"
It was not ever intended for people to sell things there.
As far as your saying.
"I mentioned this in case somebody wants to refer to a scripture that says one should not rebuke the wicked for any reason."
Your position as a Christian, a follower of Christ, is to always forgive
14) For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15) But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Notice this is different than Matt.18:15, it says "MAN" this denotes all mankind, not just a brother.
So you are right, don't rebuke, it is useless to rebuke.
He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.
Grace be unto you
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