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1 | Question for Church of Christ. | John 1:12 | springelhaus@yahoo.com | 59586 | ||
I said obedience validates salvation. Whether or not YOU want to obey is between you and God. If Peter can say the words of Acts 2:28, 1 Pet. 3:21, and 2 Pet. 1:20-21, and Paul can say the words of 2 Timothy 3:16-17, I can know that to use scripture complementarily is right with God and that to remove one part of it is wrong with Him. So when Peter, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells me to repent AND be baptized FOR the remission of sins, it behooves me to do so. Keith |
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2 | "even" is confusing. | John 1:12 | springelhaus@yahoo.com | 59583 | ||
I think it's possible that both understandings could be applicable at different times. You cite some good examples of belief without commitment, but other times, like John 8:24 and Acts 2:38, belief, oh, no it's that word again, "implies" reception or commitment or whatever you want to call it. Keith |
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3 | How is that implied in "pisteuo"? | John 1:12 | springelhaus@yahoo.com | 59582 | ||
Keep in mind that an "implied" word is one the translators believed to be implied... | ||||||
4 | "even" is confusing. | John 1:12 | springelhaus@yahoo.com | 59581 | ||
As you probably know, whenever you see italics in a verse it means that the word or phrase was inserted by translators at some point. Usually they get it right. Sometimes the thought of a manuscript is basically there, but a word is missing in a verse and they flesh the verse out. Sometimes they get it wrong. Here is an example. Ephesians 4:7-8 set up a context of Christ giving "gifts to men". The grace spoken of in verse 7 is not the universal grace offered by God through Christ's death to all who would accept its saving potential, but simply grace as in "favor" or "blessing". So, we have Christ giving gifts to men in 7 and 8 and in 9-10 we have a paranthetical statement (which the translators do well to bracket in parantheses). In other words, Paul breaks his thought in 9 and 10 and then returns to it in 11. But the translators insert "as" into verse 11 instead of "to", which is obviously ungrammatical and tends away from a proper interpretation of these verses (which is another story I'd love to tell). As for John 1:12, the insertion of "even" is an emphatic, i.e., they could easily have left it out. It's like they take it one step further to emphasize, or increase the force of, the statement. They were fitting it into an old convention of speech that has a different spin on "even" than we have today. Think about Philippians 2:8. It says Jesus was humbled "to the point of death, even death on a cross". Both are referring to Christ's death, right? Same thing in John. Both refer to two aspects of the same thing--the salvation of those who would receive him. I'm pretty sure the translators were trying to duplicate the feel of Philip. 2:8 in John. As you have noted, it is completely unnecessary. I find translators' insertions quite often that I don't feel are necessary, either. Hope this helps, Keith Davis springelhaus@yahoo.com |
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5 | Question for Church of Christ. | John 1:12 | springelhaus@yahoo.com | 59574 | ||
These words are almost synonymous. Since faith is probably more associated with "trust", however, I would have to say both are necessary. There is an interesting interaction between God's grace, which leads to our faith which is then evidenced by our works that are in keeping with God's will. Obedience validates salvation. That means that baptism plays a part as well. It alone does not "save us" per se (even though 1 Peter 3:21 could mislead some to believe) but it is a necessary part in the process of being saved. The Bible always assumes that believers have been baptized (we're talking full immersion here) so people today walk thin ice when they deny its necessity. Some verses going a long with all this are: Ephesians 2:8-10 James 2:14-26 John 14:15 Matthew 7:21-23 1 John 2:3-6 For baptism see: Acts 2:38, Acts 8:26-40, Romans 6:3-4, Galatians 3:27 Hope this helps, Keith Davis reach me at springelhaus@yahoo.com if you like |
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