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1 | KJV Only Help | Bible general Archive 4 | sethknorr | 232939 | ||
Welcome to the forum. I have relatives that are KJV only and believe that the translation is an inspired translation. As you have heard, you can't argue with the KJV only group that can convince them. Three points though, if you would like some evidence to the contrary. Point one No mater what people say all translations have there own slant. This can be necessary because there are Greek and Hebrew words that don't have exact parallels to English. However, there are some that do, and to give one example where the KJV translators put there own slant on things is Daniel 9:24. They translated the Hebrew word Kaphar, as reconciliation, where as all other translations translate the same Hebrew word as Atonement. This is one situation where they are using the same Hebrew word from the "original" transcript, but come to a different translation. All other mentions of the word in the KJV are translated "to purge" or as "atonement", as it should have been here. Reconciliation is a new Testament term and concept that they where reading into the text. Point two The original 1611 KJV and subsequent versions of the KJV had errors. If it was truly inspired it would not have errors. Here is a list of a few of the errors. 1611: The KJV has Judas, not Jesus, saying "Sit ye here while I go yonder and pray." (Matthew 26:36) 1612: In some copies Psalm 119:161 reads "Printers have persecuted me without a cause" rather than "Princes have persecuted me..." 1631: An all important "not" is omitted from Exodus 20:14, making the seventh commandment read "Thou shalt commit adultery." Point three There were so many erroneous KJV translations, that a standard text was created in 1769 and is what is used today. So people who say they are 1611 are really 1769 KJV only. So if it was really an inspired translation why the errors? And why not use the real 1611 still? In Christ, Seth Knorr |
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2 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232914 | ||
Exodus 20:11 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy. The seventh day was declared Holy because God ceased from His perfect work that He made. Everything was perfect, there was no sin. There was no need for redemption for mankind at that time, because man had not sinned. To be Holy, is to be without sin, as was that first Sabbath. This was also a shadow, because it represented perfection, and the perfected rest we enter. (cf. Colossians 2:15-17) This is why seven is called the number of perfection. When Jesus died on the cross we enter that rest, since we rest from having to do work. Not that we could keep the law if we tried. Why does it say that those who observed the Sabbath did not enter God's rest? Because of unbelief? Why is this important, because this rest is a symbol of redemption. Belief equals rest, unbelief equals no rest. (cf. Hebrews 4:3-6) Those who are saved today, have been redeemed by Faith, not by works. Thus when we believe we are resting in Jesus and are made Holy by receiving His righteousness. Ie. an eternal Holy rest. "...the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. " (cf. Hebrews 4:10) And "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness" (Romans 4:5) 2 Corinthians 5:21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. So entering that rest we have been perfected, because we enter that rest, and there is no need for work. (also cf. Hebrews 4:7-11) Since it is an eternal rest, it is not just about one day. It is an eternal rest, because the Sabbath rest is a symbol of salvation, which is an eternity of rest. In Christ, Seth Knorr |
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3 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232881 | ||
Doc, I wish all of my responses where on one page, so I am not mis-understood. My last post was in response to Searcher who was asking about the Sabbath as a current commandment. I don't believe I painted anyone into a box or condemned anyone for there practices, but quite the contrary. As I have stated, there is nothing wrong with observing the Sabbath, and I might add that it is a good idea to rest from work, whatever the day of the week. The original question essentially, is if it is a commandment that the church must still observe the Sabbath. My biggest point is that you have freedom to choose the days you wish to celebrate and observe or not, but there is no commandment. ie. It is not a sin to observe or not observe the Sabbath. And no matter what your beliefs, you must not judge others for what decision they make. In Christ, Seth Knorr |
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4 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232876 | ||
There are some Christians that believe that Sunday is the Sabbath. However, I do not, because that is found no where in the Bible. There are also no HOLY days that are to be observed as a law. These where just a shadow, and Christ fulfilled them all, including the Sabbath. (cf. Colossians 2:15-17) The point Paul makes is that it does not mater if you go to church on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, or Saturday! (cf. Romans 14:1-12) If you do observe a day, it is between you and God. You are commanded to go to church, but not on a particular day. (cf. Hebrews 10:25) Most Christians go to church on Sunday, NOT because it is required to go that day, but because they want to go on the same day Jesus rose from the dead, to remember the atonement made for their sins. Is there evidence that the early church meet on Sunday? Sure! (cf. Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:1-2, and Rev. 1:10) Does that mean you have to attend church on Sunday? Absolutely not, as stated above you can attend church on any day you like. Just make sure you are not forsaking the assembling together. (cf. Hebrews 10:25) Secondly you should not judge someone for going to church on any particular day. (cf. Romans 14:1-12) Galatians 4:9-11 9But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? 10You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain. After reading Galatians 4:9-11 are you saying that Paul's statement is wrong, that the Bible is fallible?? Or how can you justify IGNORING Paul's statement and condemnation of the desire to continue observing days including the Sabbath? So once again, I showed you where SABBATH observance was abolished. If that is not enough for you, can you show me where in the New Testament it is stated, that we are COMMANDED to observe the Sabbath? Not inferences! The same way Paul specifically and clearly COMMANDED us to follow the other commandments, the law of Christ? Additionally once again we are not under the law! 2 Corinthians 3:2-11 (The Ten Commandments which was the old Covenant was abolished, and replaced with the new covenant) Romans 7:6 6But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter. Galatians 3:23-25 23But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. 24Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. 25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. In Christ, Seth Knorr |
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5 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232845 | ||
PART 2 OF 2 Here are the 9 other commandments reiterated by both Jesus and another NT writer. Commandment 1 (Matthew 22:36-40 and 1 John 5:21) Commandment 2 (Revelation 2:14 and 1 John 5:21) Commandment 3 (Matthew 12:31 and 1 Timothy 6:1) Commandment 5 (Matthew 19:19 and Ephesians 6:2-3) Commandment 6 (Matthew 5:21-22 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 7 (Matthew 5:27-28 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 8 (Matthew 15:19-20 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 9 (Mark 7:22-23 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 10 (Mark 7:22-23 and Romans 13:9) This is not the case with the 4th commandment. After Jesus death on the cross, no where do we see Paul or any other writer in the New Testament commanding Sabbath observance like they did on these nine other commandments. When we come to the Sabbath we see the contrary. The fact is the 10 commandments is the old covenant which was abolished. But Nine of the commandments where reinstated into the new covenant, which is the law of Christ. Deuteronomy 9:9 "When I went up to the mountain to receive the tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant which the LORD had made with you, then I remained on the mountain forty days and nights; I neither ate bread nor drank water. Deuteronomy 4:13 "So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments ; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone. Then Paul makes clear that this covenant of the Ten Commandments were abolished, culminated with verse eleven “For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.” 2 Corinthians 3:2-11 2You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. 4Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. 5Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? 9For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. 10For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. 11For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory. It is obvious that Jesus was not trying to keep the law of the Sabbath intact in the New Covenant. John 5:18 18For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. In Christ, Seth Knorr |
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6 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232844 | ||
PART 1 OF 2 Beja gave some very good points, and primarily if you don’t take the Bible as a whole as inerrant, which it is, you can make the Bible say whatever you want it to say. For Sabbath observance you referenced Act 17:2, Acts 18:4 and Acts 13. The reason why they went to the Temple on the Sabbath was clearly pointed out by Paul and Barnabas in one of the reference verses you gave, to witness to the Jews. Acts 13:46 Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and said, "It was necessary that the word of God be spoken to you first; since you repudiate it and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles. This type of behavior was not uncommon in the early church, as Paul pointed out in (1 Corinthians 10:33 and 1 Corinthians 9:19-22). Paul did everything he could to be everything to everyone, to save as many as possible. And the key is 1 Corinthians 9:20 “…to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law…” Paul said he followed the law not because he was bound by it, but so he could save those who were lost. If Paul was not bound by the law, then why would we be? But that does not mean he could sin, because he was still under the “law of Christ”, which was not the Ten Commandments . I may have not pointed it out clearly enough in my first post, but there is nothing wrong with observing the Sabbath, that is Paul’s point in Romans 14:5-6, HOWEVER it is not a law that we have to follow today, or should try to force others to follow, just like we don't tell people they can't eat meat. If someone is a vegetarian, it’s their own prerogative. We should not lambast them for that practice. But at the same time, that person should not lambast those who do eat meat for doing so. Because it is NOT a sin either way! As for your question, is it okay to then commit adultery? That is a good question. As I read it in the New Testament Jesus reiterated 9 of the 10 laws that should be followed. But not only that, he showed that His laws where even more stringent in some situations then the Ten Commandments . I know of no instance anywhere where Jesus said you must keep the Sabbath. Starting with your point on Adultery, The Law did allow divorce for any and every reason, see Deuteronomy 24:1-4. However, the law of Christ redefines what the law was previously. Matthew 5:32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. Jesus reiterates, not only should you not commit adultery, but also adds more to it. Matthew 5:27-28 27"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; 28but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. |
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7 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232776 | ||
First you have to remember that Jesus would have observed the Sabbath because he was fulfilling the law. Now we can enter a permanent rest from works, and thus we do not observe the sabbath. If we did, then we would have to follow the law, which means we could not even pick up sticks. Also the sabbath is on Saturday and no where in the Bible does it state that has changed. Colossians 2:16 14having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him. 16Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Galatians 4:7-10 7Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God. 8However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. 9But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? 10You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain. In verse 3 below it specifically points out that Christians enter God's rest and therefore have no regulation to continue to observe the Sabbath. Hebrews 4:3-11 3For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said, "AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH, THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST," although His works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: "AND GOD RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ALL HIS WORKS"; 5and again in this passage, "THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST." 6Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, 7He again fixes a certain day, "Today," saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before, "TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS." 8For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. 11Therefore let us be diligent to enter that rest, so that no one will fall, through following the same example of disobedience. In this last passage Paul points out not to judge others for observing days but certainly is not say you should observe days as is a law. Romans 14:5-6 5One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. |
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8 | why are there rewards in heaven | 1 Corinthians | sethknorr | 229086 | ||
Point well taken, I appreciate your response. I was thinking about my post and thought your post would also let me better clarify a couple things. This is a complicated post, as I understand that my post probably can be very disagreeable for many Christians who believe you will receive different rewards based proportionately on your works. I used to believe that way myself. My main point is that whatever the reward in heaven is it is shared equally between all who inherit it. It is not based on works. I understand where you are coming from when you make mention of the Kingdom. I was more referencing Heaven as a whole, taken from the start of the Kingdom to Eternity. I see the kingdom as an extension of Heaven if you are in a glorified body. I reach that from the references in scripture to the “Kingdom of Heaven.” So I would not be dogmatic on that, more of my personal opinion. Obviously after the Millenial Kingdom, in eternity there would be no judging of people that would be solely an aspect of the Kingdom. But since the tweleve in the Kingdom would be in glorified bodies, I used them as an example as an aspect of Heaven. It comes down to when the Judgement Seat of Christ takes place. If it is at the Rapture of the Church, then any rewards, if any mentioned at that time, could/would in fact be applicable to the Millenial Kingdom. |
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9 | What does begotten mean on this verse? | Heb 1:5 | sethknorr | 229075 | ||
I think you have to look at verse 6 (NASB) "And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, 'AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM.'" Also verse 8 (NASB) "But of the Son He says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM." With these verses taken together in context, it is my opinion that the writer of Hebrews was trying to point out that Jesus was God, (cf. verse 8), and therefore part of the trinity, ie. the only born Son of God the Father. I think “begotten” here has the standard meaning of Born. like John 3:16 (NASB) "...He gave His only begotten [born] Son..." Sorry, I am not sure on how to post Greek here, so I will post the Strong’s. It is strongs# G1080 used in Hebrews 1:5, which was translated as "begotten". It seems to most often refer to being born. (Cf. John 3:3, John 3:5, John 3:8, Luke 1:35, John 3:4 1 John 4:7, John 3:6, etc...) In regard to Hebrews 1:5, although most translations say "begotten", the HCSB says "...today I have become Your Father..." Which again I think points to the same meaning, Jesus is God the son, the only born son of God the Father. So in my opinion it is pointing to Jesus' "official Sonship relation, with kingly dignity" as you had suggested. In Christ, Seth Knorr www.SmartBibleSearch.com |
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10 | why are there rewards in heaven | 1 Corinthians | sethknorr | 229071 | ||
I am a volunteer youth pastor and became frustrated with the bible searches that where available, as they where not very efficient. My memory is horrible when it comes remembering names and numbers, so remembering references to passages is very hard for me. However, I have an excellent memory of what verses say. So I found myself doing keywords search quite often to find the reference to the verse I wanted to use for my lesson. I am also a computer programmer, so about five years ago, I started developing my own Bible search, so that I could view results in a way that would be efficient for me. It is not where I want it yet, but it is getting there. Thanks for the feedback. In Christ, Seth Knorr www.SmartBibleSearch.com |
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11 | why are there rewards in heaven | 1 Corinthians | sethknorr | 229069 | ||
I did catch 1 Cor. 3:12-15 in my statement. I think though, to get the real context you have to start in verse 11 which is the main point, “For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” So the basis of everything, including the reward, is based solely on Christ. Verse 14 simply says if the work remains, ie. built on the foundation of Christ, “he will receive a reward.” It does not however state what the reward is. It could mean Eternal life, but is not clear. Verse 15 I think is complicated, because it says you will suffer loss. What loss though? It does not say. It could be assumed the loss is of a reward, because a reward was mentioned in Verse 14. However, it could also mean that his loss was working in vain. He thought he was doing the work of Jesus, but in fact he was doing his own thing. (Cf. Psalm 127:1) For me, if I worked my entire life for what I thought was a good cause, and found it was in vain, that would be a loss, because it was all in vain, and I actually accomplished nothing. I would agree that we will possibly have rewards of service in heaven, Ie. we will be promoted to positions over others. Matthew 19:27-30 "27Then Peter said to Him, "Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?" 28And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29"And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother [a]or children or farms for My name's sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life. 30"But many who are first will be last; and the last, first." So from Matthew 19:28 based possibly on works we may have “management” positions, or it may be that just the 12 specifically have that honor, and is not based on works. But notice also, that all of them have the same position, no mater how much work or little work they did. Obviously there where some disciples that did much more work than others, it would appear from the Bible. So shouldn’t then each receive more of a reward than the other ones that did less work for God? Mark 10:30-31 “30but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life. 31"But many who are first will be last, and the last, first.” Notice, in the Matthew and Mark passages Jesus mentions rewards now, but the reward in the future is Eternal Life. He does not mention anything else. Just that the first will be last. But think about that verse and then look at Luke 7:28 "I say to you, among those born of women there is no one greater than John; yet he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he." This is an interesting passage because it points out that although no one has done greater works than John the Baptist, here on earth, his own righteousness does not equal a greater position of status. Because, the only reason we get to heaven is by the Righteousness of Jesus. Therefore, everyone in Heaven will be equally righteous, because of Jesus. I know we’re talking about works, and not righteousness, but I think they really go hand and hand, when answering this question. The last point that I have not covered, is our seat with God, or our place of honor. Which you could categorize as a reward. Matthew 20:20-21 “20Then the mother of the sons of Zebedee came to Jesus with her sons, bowing down and making a request of Him. 21And He said to her, "What do you wish?" She *said to Him, "Command that in Your kingdom these two sons of mine may sit one on Your right and one on Your left."” This verse has to be taken into context with Mark 16:19. Jesus sits at the “right hand of God”. Think about this, if someone where to sit to the left of Jesus, they would actually sit at the right hand of God, which would actually put them in a higher position than Jesus. Which is obviously a position only for Jesus. Notice what Jesus asks in Matthew 20 22 "You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink?” They said they could, but could they really die for mankind’s sins? Jesus goes on to say in verse 23 “to sit on My right and on My left, this is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by My Father.” It does not say why they receive that seat, just that it was prepared for them. It could be assumed once again that was based on works. But it does not however talk about how every believer will receive a seat based on works, or anything like that. I hope I have clarified my previous statement. All quotations taken from the NASB. In Christ, Seth Knorr www.SmartBibleSearch.com |
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12 | why are there rewards in heaven | 1 Corinthians | sethknorr | 229067 | ||
Interesting question that makes you really think. Since our "righteous deeds are like a filthy garment" Isaiah 64:6, why would we qualify for a reward based on our works? 1 Corinthians 9:24 is interesting because it says only one receives the prize. Is Paul maybe referring simply to all that are saved? Those are the ones that are the winners because of Jesus. (the only one) Romans 4:5 "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness." Since we only get to Heaven on Jesus’ merits, when we follow him through faith our reward is the crown of life. (Salvation) It is Interesting that the Crown of life is generally connected to this reward. (cf. James 1:12 and Revelation 2:10) The only work that stands is if we do God's work, and then we receive gain. And once again, I believe the reward is eternal life. (cf. 1 Corinthians 3:13-17) All quotes taken from the NASB. In Christ, Seth Knorr www.SmartBibleSearch.com |
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