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Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Author: oldone Ordered by Date |
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1 | How can the Son at the end be subject be | 1 Cor 15:28 | oldone | 228493 | ||
Deny would better said as "he did not acknowledge him" when he said there was no God but him. Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Isaiah said that God knew the end of this creation from the beginning. I believe that Jesus was the central and main part of Gods plan for mankind. In that sense Jesus was there in the beginning. My opinion only. The distinctions within the Godhead the operations of God. I enter this question only to give scriptures for consideration not for debate. I don't think we will change our hermeneutics concerning this so I will bow out of this discussion and ask my first question in a day or so. God bless all. |
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2 | How can the Son at the end be subject be | 1 Cor 15:28 | oldone | 228490 | ||
Anyone who studies God word has heard of the doctrine of the trinity which I do not accept. The bible is very plain in the FACT that God is a spirit not a man (person means-an individual or a human being). Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jesus the only person in the Godhead. When anyone questions my limited intellegence then I stop my diccussions with them Lord bless you Beja |
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3 | is jesus god? | 1 Cor 15:28 | oldone | 228485 | ||
See my note Tues. 06/28/11 at 4:00 PM. It will be under the question "How can the son at end be subject". | ||||||
4 | How can the Son at the end be subject be | 1 Cor 15:28 | oldone | 228484 | ||
If Jesus was in the beginning with God and coequal in all things, then I find controversy in the scriptures. I will try to explain with the following scriptures. Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Isa 45:5 ΒΆ I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. If Jesus was with God eternally why would he deny him in these verses in Isaiah if he was there and coequal. Ho 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me. Hosea through devine inspiration has declared that there is no saviour expect the one God of Israel. De 4:35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; Would the above scripture be contradictory to the below scripture. The above verse God did it and below Jesus did it. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Many times the bible uses Jesus or the father or God as doing the same things. All things that pertains to God falls under one catagory THE GODHEAD. Webster defines the word Godhead as DEVINE ESSENCE---SUPREME DIETY Joh 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily In John 6:46 we see that only one man has seen God and he had to be part of God. Col 2:9 tell us that he is the only human part of the Godhead Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Jesus told Philip that when he saw him he saw the Father. 2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. |
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5 | How can the Son at the end be subject be | 1 Cor 15:28 | oldone | 228475 | ||
I can see that we are basically on the same page. Whether it is the Holy Spirit, Jesus the Christ or any other operation of the everpresent, all powerful and all knowing spirit which we call God. Everything is combined in one God. |
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6 | How can the Son at the end be subject be | 1 Cor 15:28 | oldone | 228442 | ||
Thank you for your reply. I find your note to be as a riddle to me. I think (correct me if I am wrong) you are saying that the word was actually Christ that was there with God. If this is right, I will give my thoughts concerning this later |
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7 | How can the Son at the end be subject be | 1 Cor 15:28 | oldone | 228430 | ||
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. The above scriptures in Isaiah declares that thereis no God or Saviour except him and that no other will be formed. Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. The above scripture declares that every knee shall bow to God and the below verse states that every knee shall bow to Jesus. Will every knee bow to both? To me this was very misleading for a while. Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; A very condensed explaination of a bible study I made a few years ago. 2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. What this verse is telling me God and Christ became one, Like, body and soul. Another way I look at it is that Jesus was the man that God became. Now look at another scripture. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jesus became the only physical part of the Godhead Webster gives the defination of Godhead as, THE SUPREME DIETY. Jesus has became the physical part of the one supreme diety. Mt 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. All power is in the hands of Jesus for the purpose of defeating sin. By man came sin into the world and by man sin will be defeated. When this is accomplished then 1 Cor 15:27-28. Jesus will reign in the new Jerusalem as King of the redeemed of the earth, still part of the Supreme Diety and the omnipresent spirit will reign over the universe. This is basically my thoughts but many other scripture could be presented |
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