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Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Author: elisafuk Ordered by Date |
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1 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 181017 | ||
What?...Oh it is a combination of my two first names.Elizabeth and Funke the U.k as I live in the u.k. Elizabeth |
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2 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180969 | ||
See the teachings and historical notes on John the Baptist and Herodias on a secular page to get a ful picture as well as in the Word matt14v4 if you have time. 4For John said unto him, It is not lawful for thee to have her. Wikipedia has a page on herodias who was Jewish new to me and how it was unlawful according to the standards of that time and judaic law for divorcees to remarry. So why would Jesus our Lord say that it was o.k to do so. He didn;t break the law nor tell anyone that it was o.k to divorce and remarry it is a sin. With much Love in HImXX |
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3 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180968 | ||
OOops sorry according to wikipedia Herodias WAS a Jew.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodias. WIth much love in Him. |
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4 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180966 | ||
MOre on Heoridas on:http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9040199/Herodias if you are interested. cut and pasted below if you are busy. -------------------------------------------------- the wife of Herod Antipas, who was tetrarch (ruler appointed by Rome) of Galilee, in northern Palestine, from 4 BC to AD 39. She conspired to arrange the execution of John the Baptist. Her marriage to Herod Antipas (himself divorced), after her divorce from his half-brother, was censured by John as a transgression of Mosaic Law. -------------------------------------------------- We know that they were not Jews which means it is applicable to all saved or not saved Jew or non Jew. Herodias, according to Mark (6:19–20), would have had John killed but could not because Herod feared the man. Herod's birthday celebration offered an opportunity to revenge John's rebuke. Salome (Herodias' daughter by her first husband) performed a dance that so pleased Herod that he offered to grant any wish she expressed. Prompted by her mother, Salome asked for John's head on a platter, a wish the reluctant Herod was bound to fulfill. Herodias also urged her husband to attempt to discredit her brother Herod Agrippa I, who had recently received the tetrarchy of Batanaea and Trachonitis, to the east of the Sea of Galilee. Their efforts antagonized the emperor Caligula, however, and they were banished in AD 39. |
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5 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180962 | ||
And it was is John the baptists the Prophets and the Lords by the way Matthew 14v4; 4For John said unto him, It is not lawful for thee to have her. |
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6 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180961 | ||
Why would Jesus give permission to do what even John the Baptist the least in Gods kingdom preached against Matthew 14v2-4. Was Herodias a saint or had any virtue? me thinks not yet it was known that their "remarriage" was adultery and not legal in the spirit nor in heaven. Unlawful. Which is worse a bed hopper or a divorcee that went on to remarry? a divorcee that remarried for Jesus called it sin. Mark10v11. A bed hopper sees their sin and hopes one day to be rid of it repents. Whereas a divorcee doesnt see their sin of amongst which covenant breaking which was predicted in the word in the end times that there will be covenant breakers etc and so remarries. Jesus said what God has joined together let no man put asunder is the answer to if it was allowed by heaven or not. clearly it isnt even if he or she was a trollope or the whore;s whore. Sorry I can't say otherwise. |
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7 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180960 | ||
Why would Jesus give permission to do what even John the Baptist the least in Gods kingdom preached against Matthew 14v2-4. Was Herodias a saint or had any virtue? me thinks not yet it was known that their "remarriage" was adultery and not legal in the spirit nor in heaven. Unlawful. Which is worse a bed hopper or a divorcee that went on to remarry? a divorcee that remarried for Jesus called it sin. Mark10v11. A bed hopper sees their sin and hopes one day to be rid of it repents. Whereas a divorcee doesnt see their sin of amongst which covenant breaking which was predicted in the word in the end times that there will be covenant breakers etc and so remarries. Jesus said what God has joined together let no man put asunder is the answer to if it was allowed by heaven or not. clearly it isnt even if he or she was a trollope or the whore;s whore. Sorry I can't say otherwise. |
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8 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180949 | ||
Further: why did even John the baptist preach the illegality of divorce and remarriage of Herod to Herodias? John 14v4 If Jesus was saying it was o.k to divorce under Grace? Herodias as you know as no innoocent party of any group : if you can get your daughter to seduce her uncle..... No darlings - Beloveds there is NO JUSTIFICATION UNTO DIVORCE |
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9 | What price Homer?...not a Do'oh!? | Not Specified | elisafuk | 180948 | ||
What was the price that Hosea paid for Gomer? 15 shekels of silver and a homer and a half of barley. What was their significance. Someeone somewhere said that it was the price of a slave - slave to sin-harlotry and a symbol of Gods payment in full of those He has redeemed...any thoughts? Thanks, Elizabeth |
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10 | What price Homer?...not a Do'oh!? | Hos 3:2 | elisafuk | 181021 | ||
What was the price that Hosea paid for Gomer? 15 shekels of silver and a homer and a half of barley. What was their significance. Someeone somewhere said that it was the price of a slave - slave to sin-harlotry and a symbol of Gods payment in full of those He has redeemed...any thoughts? Thanks, Elizabeth |
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11 | kids out of wedlock. | Hosea | elisafuk | 180947 | ||
Dear Alice, Your husband is in the role of Father Abraham , mine was kinda like that actually he started of to play Hosea _ I am a woman with a past! and then packed that one in....then he went off with another woman.. I diverge. Getting back to your question. YOur husband has placed himself in the sutuation of father Abraham. Is He repentent that is the first and foremost thing cos if he hasn;t he cannot do it right. If he sees his going to the other woman and creating sprogs from her as a sin and a tresspass against you and heaven then forgive him and get him to complete the part that God created for him to do. The story of Father Abraham you know don;t you? If you don;t go to Genesis and read up on it.Father Abrahanm also loved his hagar your husband has a hagar figure in the other woman and an ishmael figure in the kid(s) of the other woman. We are the seeds of Father Abraham so play the role fully. Tell him that he has to tell Hagar and Ishmael to varrrrmoooooose oughta there. Even as Father Abraham did to his own hagar and ishmael.God set them male and female not 1 male and 2 females. Let him know that he cannot divorce you and remarry as it is adultery and what good will that do to his hagar woman.? Hagar could lay hold of the things that God prepared for her and her son because she did not put asunder what God has joined asunder. There are some that cannot walk in that path of deliverance as they have put asunder my marriage and have a bastard sorry an ishmael figure which they cannot get cleaned even under Grace. |
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12 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180946 | ||
The hardness of your hearts guys.What would Hosea say when we meet him with the Lord? | ||||||
13 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180945 | ||
Firstly:Hosea God did a new thing and a sign of things to come for us grafted in by Grace. He told him to go and get not just a tart but a whore of whoredom a whore of the gentiles a thing that was twice tabboo. This was done to show not only His Love for Israel , The Love of God in Jesus for us and the Love of Jesus for the errant church but also an example of long suffering Love in marriage. FOr those who were paying attention the answer to the question is divorce allowed - was NO what GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER LET NO MAN PUT ASUNDER. If it had truely been o.k for a man to have put away his wife for the sake of adulteries it would not have been a difficult thing for the disciples to grab MAtt 19v9,10 and Paul would have said that that was what Jesus was saying in 1 Corinthinan. In 1 cor 7v10:Paul said,the things that the Lord commanded to be done. His non saying that apart from the case of marital infidelities meant that Jesus did not command it to be done. What He commanded he expounded on: LET NOT THE MAN PUT ASUNDER THEIR WIFE..LET THE WOMAN REMAIN SINGLE OR BE RECONCILED TO HER HUSBAND, paul says and not JESUS this part:IF AN UNBELEIVING DEPART LET HIM DEPART FOR GOD HAS CALLED US TO PEACE. Both the Father and the Lord called divorce a hardness of heart. THe hardness of those under the Law caused God to have Moses get them to issue a divorce. What then ought us who are in HIm ought to do ? NOT PUT AWAY OUR WIVES...HUSBANDS for that shows a hardness of heart. Those that declare them selves to be justified unto divorcing their spouse on the grounds of adultery are showing a hardness of heart. what happened could you not have suffered it, even as Hosea did? If need be you don;t even have to stay in the same house or country with the spouse only honour your convenant that you made in the presence of God.malachi2v14 God was a witness. Most people who are more or less fed up with a marriage and seek and a way out of it usually do try to justfiy it with scriptures that they can. I know I did. Athough I didn't not go to the courts to issue a decree nissi. I was forced to sign it as if an unbeliever departs let him depart for God has called us to Liberty. I was married in 1995 and divorced in 2000 My exhusband came to me before he got remarried in 2001 by the way. By then he had already had a son with the woman that he was cheating with whilst we were married and married in 2001.Our marriage was not easy and slightly complicated I must add. HOwever it could have been managed if it was done with the Word of God and or even the law of the Land. He was 6months younger than me and I felt was not developed emotionally nor as a Christian although he moved by faith to start of with. Regarding the divorce my exhusband did not even bother even to fulfill the laws of God nor of the Land legal requirements regarding seperation and divorce. Had he done so I might have returned to him but could not as within the period of time he had gotten the other woman pregnant and remarried. He did not even follow the proper procedures in the divorce hearing etc as he was not doubt to remarry the other woman who is 5 year older than both of us. We both cheated. Although he still denies it. He also wanted out. I did - to try and get out of the marriage He did as he was a dog. Whatever reasons whether he cheated or I divorce was and is not a justifiable reason for putting asunder what God joined together.The real cheater is the one that issued the decree nissi and remarried fulfilling what is written of adulteres. When he came back in 2001 I told him that I was not prepared to go back to him and wanted to remain single as it is allowed .He was very dominieering and overbearing and manipulative and into the occult. One day he would listen to God the other his mother when he ought to have cleaved to his wife. Who is the cheater ? He that put asunder what God has joined together. That is who. Are all those in a sham of a marriage then hypocrites. No for the marriage is still in tack. The whole point is not to PUT ASUNDER. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE MUST YOU DIVORCE YOUR SPOUSE, even as Paul urged all the brothers LET NOT THE MAN PUT ASIDE HIS WIFE. If she a tart you play the role of Hosea for your tart. End of story. AS THE LORD PUT IT: DIVORCE IS A HARDNESS OF HEART. |
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14 | Isn't adultrey grounds for divorce? | Hosea | elisafuk | 180851 | ||
No adultery or marital infidelities is no longer a justification for divorce becuase of Hosea ,Jesus redifined definition of adultery. When asked about the lawfulness of putting away ones wife Matthew 19v3 Jesus gave the answer: WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER LET NO MAN PUT ASUNDER v6. They then asked Him why did Moses allow it then if it was not right with God... Moses allowed it but it was not the ORGINAL PLAN of God for marriages. So there fore we that are saved stick to the original plan and do Gods will. But what about the exception? There is no justification for divorce of a cheating spouse, God set Hosea as an exmaple of Grace and Godlyness unto those who do not deserve it even more so of those that say they are saved to forgive even as Jesus forgave etc. Jesus spoke of fornication and not adultery. Should that not have read except for the sake of adultery can a spouse divorce them? Fornication was an act that was passed by a single never been married person. The pharasee spoke of them not being born of fornication and having God as their father. Unlike Ishmael and you know who.( hagar).Sarah was married to Father Abraham etc. Under Jewish customs engagments were considerd all but marriage and when it was broken a divorce was needed to be issued ( deutronomy somewhere...) When single but engaged person was sexually unfaithful it was considered as fornication and not adultery. Joseph - Jesus's dad nearly put away Mary when he found that she was pregnant etc.. It was this that Jesus was referring to - if it was done in the engagement period.Today marriage ceremonies ask : Does any one know why these 2 ought not to be joined in Holy Matrimony, speak now or hold your tongue etc.. If they had known that these persons were not faithful or other reasons why they should not be joined in Holy Matrimony etc Once the partys have said I do then God has joined, Malachi tells us that God is a witness in marriages..so when they say I do He did join So where is the Sting? The issuing of a divorce cert in a proper marriage is where the sting of is at: for it causes the other party to sin, they might want sex but find that they are not able to as their spouse has remarried etc and are compelled maybe to remarry.!!! Matthew 19v9, tells us that. Hence Paul urging men not to put away their wives, as if the wives remarry that sin will be upon the heads of the man that put away his wife as God said in the book of the Law or Hosea that He will not visit the daughters adulteries on them.... So anywoman that is suffering in the hands of a man hang tight See Gods way out. DO NOT DIVORCE HIM - stay seperate if need be and pray for things to change. Hopefully they will one way or the other do not pray for him to go and divorce you though. |
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