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1 | Why carry on like a playground dispute? | Acts 1:3 | da_sheep | 45760 | ||
Correction to Part 1 Opps!!! Mixed up the ratios. :-P What I meant was ... ... if the first 1000 years was 50000 years ... (dot dot dot means rest of stuff) and ... imagine going to bed and waking up the next day to discover time speeding up to 50 times it's rate ... (not 365000 times faster) sorry. hmm... it would be nice if posts had an edit function. |
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2 | Why carry on like a playground dispute? | Acts 1:3 | da_sheep | 45751 | ||
Part 2 You asked me if I believed God was a deceiver. No I do not. But you are assuming two things. (1) that the world really is old. (2) that I believe God made the world old to deceive. Our perspectives are different. I believe that God does not deceive. At the same time, I believe that science assumes somthing must have occured slowly when it could have occured quickly. (coal and fossil fuels can be formed quickly, that the layers of the Earth were deposited rapidly (due to the Flood), that fossils were laid during that time, and that the Grand Canyon was carved quickly). You may laugh at this view, as scientists have for many decades. But, in fact, a few weeks ago, I saw a show on PBS that said that the latest scientific view is that the Grand Canyon was carved quickly! Yes, it is becoming commonly accepted that the land forms in the USA and world wide were shaped by flood waters. The old evolutionists don't like this but slowly they are accepting it. The new evolutionists accept this view. Unfortunately, they now say that the flood was caused by rapid to almost instantaneous melting of glacia. Once again, showing that they are still clinging to their own beliefs. (rather than accepting Noah's Flood). Anyways, I side tracked there. So my belief is this. God does not deceive. God created the world some 6000 years ago. God speaks to us in the Bible. If you begin with God's word, then you will say that the world is 6000 years old and therefore our evolutionary world view is tainted. But if you begin with evolution and then try to incorportate God's word, then you end up re-writing what God is saying to fit what you believe. Also, evolution requires death. Fossils require death. But what does the Bible say about death? "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" Romans 5:12 - Death came to the world because of sin. The fifth and sixth day could not have death. So how can you say that the fossils (death) were deposited during that time? "For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now." Romans 8:19-22 (NKJV) And in Genesis, "God saw that it was good." not in a bondage to decay. - was creation actually good in the beginning? - when did this "bondage of corruption" come about? When Adam and Eve sinned. - What did Jesus die for? To deliver us from what? What would Adam and Eve's disobedience mean if death already existed - that their sin did not really bring death because it was already there? Yet believing that coal could be formed quickly, that the layers and fossils we see today were deposited during the Flood, and that landforms are shaped by the retreating flood waters, that radioactive dating is not accurate, all do not go against what is said in the Bible. You see, if you try to begin with evolution ... you will end up with Biblical problems. If you begin with the Bible, you will end up challenged by the ways of this world, for the minds of men are corrupt. Heed what is written above. I do not intend to reply much. For such can carry on endlessly. ----------- Side stuff. To me, AIG is something on the side. The Bible comes first. As for AIG http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/whatbau.html http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org/docs/3603.asp Cheers |
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3 | Why carry on like a playground dispute? | Acts 1:3 | da_sheep | 45750 | ||
Part 1 Hi nimrod, Thanks for your reply. With all due respect, I would like to know what you think of the following. "science makes sense to you but because it conforms to what you were taught to believe and is neccesary to fit with your interpretation of Genesis" That reasoning is true for the opposite too ... that is because your underlying belief that the world was millions of years old, that therefore any science that supports that view is therefore true and that those that are different must be inaccurate. Imagine if someone grew up in a world that did not teach either view. But that the child was taught how to read. And this child picked up the Bible. What then would "in six days" mean to this child. And if this child were to walk around in the world, no one to guide, but just to observe, what conclusions would be reached? Only that God created the world (because it is evident in creation) just as it is written in the Bible. Or let's say the gospel was brought to some people far away in a remote area, away from western science. And then the Bible was presented. What then will they think? Some other thoughts: Adam was created on the 6th day. How old did Adam live? How old was he when he gave birth to Seth? There was a seventh day. So how long was the seventh day? How many people were cast out of the Garden of Eden? And to tie it to a post you had earlier ... if you said that the first 1000 years was about 40 000 years (just so that you can fit evolutionary theory), how long then are you saying Adam lived? So then, how long did Noah live? But if you say that only the first thousand years was forty thousand years long and after that a year was only a year ... I feel so sorry for those who were living around then. For there were people alive between the time of Adam and Noah and so forth. One thousand years is 365000 times longer than a day. Imagine this: If you went to bed one day. Woke up the next morning and time was running 365000 times faster ... yikes. Such talk is foolishness. Also, remember that a thousand years FOR US is like a day TO GOD. So, it is more reasonable to say that Adam's life (930 Adam years) is like a day to God. For Adam is a man. |
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4 | Why carry on like a playground dispute? | Acts 1:3 | da_sheep | 45358 | ||
Hi. Just to keep things short ... - www.AnswersInGenesis.org - scientific evidence of a young Earth concerning the billion year old model, - if your "evidence" is radioactive dating ... people DECIDED to believe that the world was billions of years old, BEFORE radioactive dating was even invented. :-) (study history, or look up info) - concerning fossil deposits ... there is not a single place in the world where the fossils actually appear as in textbooks. (an honest and informed person who works with fossils at a museum would agree to this. Note. honest and informed.) - as for why the billion year old model is accepted ... politics. (look up the Monkey Trial)(info can also be found at the mentioned web-page). Is the Bible scientific? Yes. For science is the study of observations. Remember, theories can not be proven, according to science's own definition. Rather, theories are hypothetical ideas generated by the mind, not observations. Also, - Bible clearly says man from dust. (not monkey) - the Genesis 1 account is confirmed in Exodus 20 and in Exodus 31 PLEASE. DO NOT just reply out of impulse. This gets nowhere. Spend 3 years researching first. Order books. Etc. Then come back with your reply. -In conclusion: Arguing gets no where. Answers will not be found when questions are asked without FIRST being willing to listen prior to asking. The main issue is NOT about being a literist or not. No. It's about Faith in God. And when there are things that you do not understand, that is when you must have Faith. This is proven true time again and again. No reason to doubt the Bible or to bend it to our understanding. See this passage: (also, look at the description of the water cycle! not scientific?!!!) Isaiah 55:8-11 (NIV) 8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the Lord . 9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10 As the rain and the snow come down from heaven, and do not return to it without watering the earth and making it bud and flourish, so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater, 11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it. Be blessed by God's Word. :-) |
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5 | Can you lose your salvation? | Bible general Archive 1 | da_sheep | 45338 | ||
This is helpful. http://www.backtothebible.org/bigquestions/bq_bigquestions.html |
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6 | Can you lose your salvation? | Bible general Archive 1 | da_sheep | 45337 | ||
This is helpful. http://www.backtothebible.org/bigquestions/bq_bigquestions.html |
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7 | Is baptism essential for salvation? | Acts 4:12 | da_sheep | 45335 | ||
This is helpful http://www.backtothebible.org/bigquestions/bq_bigquestions.html |
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8 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | da_sheep | 45244 | ||
Check this out. What do you think? http://www.backtothebible.org/bigquestions/bq_bigquestions.html |
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9 | Can a believer lose his salvation? | Luke 8:13 | da_sheep | 45243 | ||
Check this out. What do you think? http://www.backtothebible.org/bigquestions/bq_bigquestions.html |
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