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1 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | bill0624 | 214069 | ||
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2 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | bill0624 | 214068 | ||
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3 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | bill0624 | 214067 | ||
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4 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | bill0624 | 214064 | ||
So where it is? Is it "up" from North America? Or is it "up" from South America? Is it "up" from the North Pole? Or is it "up" from the South Pole? If it is "up" from Israel, pointing to the constellation of Orion, then 12 hours later when Israel's "up" points to Andromeda, is heaven still in Orion? Or does it rotate circumorbital with Israel? Yes, these are serious questions. Where, exactly, is "up"? |
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5 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | bill0624 | 214063 | ||
Tim, could you explain to me how these passages are "in harmony"? He said to them, "Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, 'Every man of you put his sword upon his thigh, and go back and forth from gate to gate in the camp, and kill every man his brother, and every man his friend, and every man his neighbor.'" - Ex 22:27 "Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately." - Num 31:17 Now when Israel had finished killing all the inhabitants of Ai in the field in the wilderness where they pursued them, and all of them were fallen by the edge of the sword until they were destroyed, then all Israel returned to Ai and struck it with the edge of the sword. - Joshua 8:24 Versus: "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly." - John 10:10 "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you," - Matt 5:44 "But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you," - Luke 6:27 "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men." - Luke 6:35 How are all these verses "in harmony" with one another and teach us, according to God's Word, a unified teaching concerning what we should do with our enemies? |
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6 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | bill0624 | 214062 | ||
Hi Beja. Let me start with the end of your post first. Oops, wait, I need a scriptural reference, right? Okay, "the first shall be last and the last shall be first." Ha ha! Just kidding! I DO have a sense of humor. I am not at all suggesting that every Christian through history must be deluded or not intelligent or trumped by be or needing correction. We all stand on the shoulders of others, don't we? What I am suggestion is that the church, from time to time, gets caught up in traditions and the doctrines of men that lead it away from the teachings of Jesus. Do you doubt this? Do you think the bodily ascension of Mary is something Jesus taught? Do you think that indulgences is part of Jesus' teaching? Do you think that 5-Point Calvinism is the thrust of Jesus' gospel? Do you think that the "Name-It-And-Claim-It" message of contemporary Christianity is the heart of Jesus' message? I don't think these church doctrines are part of Jesus' gospel. And neither do I believe that Paul's understanding of the gospel is exactly what Jesus taught. Read Jesus' inaugeral address given after his baptism from the book of Isaiah. It has nothing to do with his death and resurrection. It has to do with helping the poor, healing the sick, setting captives free, proclaiming liberty. This was JESUS' gospel. If we don't recognize this, then, yes, we have chosen Paul and ignored Jesus himself. Now, if "scripture is an all or none" deal, then ALL of scripture is binding on you, Beja. This means you are under Mosaic law, levitical law, Israel's social law, etc. If the OT carries just as must authority today, then we need to obey God's words and bring animal sacrifices to the temple. If we don't, then we are disobeying "the word of the Lord." So this, Beja, is the issue. If the ENTIRE Bible is God's authoritative voice and teaching directly to you, then you must obey the ENTIRE Bible, all of it. You need to avoid blended clothing. You need to refrain from planting two different crops in one field. You need to kill your enemies as God commanded Moses and Joshua to do. You need to offer animal sacrifices. If ALL of it is "God's words to all of it", then we can't pick and choose which laws or covenants we want to be under. I would like to know, for all the Bible-thumpers on this forum who believe that everything in the Bible applies today, why their own churches don't force women to keep absolutely quiet - no singing, no teaching children, no praying, no talking. After all, these are (supposedly), not Paul's words, but the very words of God as to how women should act in church. How many here who hold the Bible's teachings to be "the plumbline" for everything in life actually FOLLOW the teachings? |
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7 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214059 | ||
Tim, in all honesty, I am perplexed by your reply. You say that you see the entire Bible as being authoritative for you but that some parts of it don’t apply to you. I say that I don’t see the entire Bible as being authoritative to me and, therefore, some parts of it don’t apply to me. If the end result is the same, that we both agree that not everything in the Bible applies to us, then why am I being chastised for saying that some parts of the Bible are not authoritative for me? I simply don’t understand the logic of this. I would agree that the Law of Moses was authoritative for the Jews. But the apostle Paul said that he was no longer under the Law. Does that mean that if he were here, he would be asked to leave this forum because he no longer considered to the Law of Moses to be authoritative in his life? |
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8 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214058 | ||
Exodus 20:13 - "You shall not murder." And yet, under Moses' and Joshua's leadership, this is exactly what we see Israel continually doing to its enemies. |
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9 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214057 | ||
MJH, you seem to be a fair individual so I'll reply to you. Jesus disagreed with Moses about the "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" policy in Jesus' "...you have heard it said, but I tell you" passages. Jesus didn't stone the woman caught in adultery even though this is what the Law of Moses demanded. As I've stated in another posts, Jesus disagreed with Moses (and Joshua) that the way the people of God should treat their enemies is to kill them. Jesus' disagreed with Moses about honoring father and mother, Jesus said to hate father and mother if you wanted to be his disciple. Jesus himself claimed to be greater than Moses. This implies that he reveals more of God or more truth than Moses does. PS - Contrary to what some people here may think I think, I do believe that the whole Bible is scripture. But I don't believe that the whole Bible is applicable to us today. I see no way in which someone could claim that the whole Bible is authoritative for them and then say that some parts don't apply to them. I am at least honest about stating that the whole Bible doesn't apply to me. |
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10 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214043 | ||
You have stated your own opinion. Again, this forum is "sola scriptura", scripture only. Scripture does not mention Ghandi. I have again reported you to management for policy violation. | ||||||
11 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214042 | ||
You have quoted C.H. Spurgeon here. This forum is "sola scriptura", scripture only. Views of theologians violate this forum's "scripture only" policy. I have reported you to management. | ||||||
12 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214039 | ||
TO EVERYONE: Please don't bother asking me anything more. I've been shown the door. Reminds me of what Ghandi once said about Christianity, "I like your Jesus...but I don't much care for your Christians because they are not very much like him." In my brief time here, not even 24 hours, I humbly exhort folks to get back to the teachings of Jesus and I am told I violate the terms of this "Christian Forum" and that if I were serious about Jesus' teachings, I would literally cut my hands and feet off. :( I leave with a saddened heart. Blessings of Christ to all of you anyway. bill |
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13 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214035 | ||
I'm not "conveniently overlooking" anything. I stated that my posts are biblically based upon the teachings of Jesus, which, I believe, lead us to love God and one another more. It seems this is a point of contention here. It seems that, for the purposes of this forum, "sola scriptura" means that Moses has as much authority over the Christian as Christ does. It seems that Joshua is on the same level as Jesus as also has "all authority in heaven and on earth." It seems that Isaiah is just as "fully of grace and truth" as Jesus Christ. It seems that Paul is just as much "the very image of God" as Jesus. Why? Because this forum interprets "sola scriptura" to mean that everyone and everthing taught in the Bible stands on equal ground with Jesus Christ himself. This is the problem with man-made doctrines. They start out exhorting us to get back to basics but, in the hands of religion, get turned into idols. I don't have a problem with "sola scriptura." In fact, if folks here would bother to look up the definition, they would discover that it allows for reason, logic, and tradtion in being faithful to the Bible. But this forum uses it to mean "You must believe EXACTLY as we do." If this is how the Lockman Foundation interprets "sola scriptura", that everything in the Bible is binding upon the Christian and that Jesus Christ and his teachings stand on exactly the same ground as Moses, Joshua, and Job, then, yes, I will depart. I had hoped this was a place to discuss the Bible in the light of Jesus Christ, not a place where the Bible is placed on higher authority than what he has. Nevertheless, I wish ALL of you the best in Christ and hope that you grow in the grace of our Lord. bill |
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14 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214030 | ||
Yes, John, I realize that anyone can respond. I welcome the interaction. Why do you say that I don't respect the Terms of Use? I've read them. I am not trolling or spamming in any way. How do I violate the rules here? Please show me. | ||||||
15 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214029 | ||
Sure, Val. Here are a few references: Numbers 31 Numbers 35 Joshua 6:16,17,20,21 Joshua 8:1,2,24-26 Joshua 10:28-41 These are just a few. But they do serve do demonstrate how Jesus' teachings of loving one's enemies was not "authoritative" in the OT. |
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16 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214025 | ||
Oops, sorry, John. My reply for was Tim. :) I hope he answers. | ||||||
17 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214024 | ||
You haven't addressed my question, Tim. This verse from Leviticus, which you consider to be authoritative for you, says not to plant crops of two different kinds in a field and not to wear garments of two differnt kinds. How is this verse authoritative for you? | ||||||
18 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214022 | ||
What is the difference, Tim? Here is a verse from the book of Leviticus: 'You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.' - Lev 19:19 In this verse, God says not to plant two different kinds of plants in a field. He also says not to wear a garment that has been made from two different kinds of materials (blends). How would you explain to someone that this verse is authoritative for you (that this verse demonstrates God's authority over how you plant and how you dress) but that it is NOT applicable to you (despite the authority of the verse, it doesn't apply to you)? I'm not trying to be contentious, Tim. I really want to know. How can you assert that this verse is authoritative over you but that it doesn't apply to you? If this verse is authoritative over you concerning planting and garments, shouldn't it, by definition, apply to you? If not, why not? |
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19 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | bill0624 | 214021 | ||
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "ALL AUTHORITY has been given to ME in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe ALL that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." - Matt 28:18-20 These are my, in Christian lingo, "key verses", Tim. My postings ARE biblically based, based primarily upon Jesus' teachings as found in the gospels as found in the Bible. I don't deny the deity of Jesus Christ. In fact, I find that his deity and his claims to ALL AUTHORITY in heaven and on earth necessitate that I don't put other biblical people on the same level of authority as that of Christ himself. I don't follow Moses. Is this forum saying I should? How odd that on a "Christian" forum, I should have to defend Jesus' authority. Nevertheless, if YOU (or OTHERS here) feel that I am in violation of this forum's policies and that I should be banned here, notify management and should they desire that I leave, I will leave quietly. |
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20 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | bill0624 | 214018 | ||
Thanks for the welcome, Tim! But I don't agree that all the Bible is equally authoritative. If we think that, then we need to resume offering animal sacrifices because these were commanded of God's people. | ||||||
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