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1 | Heb. 6:4-6 Security | Gen 1:1 | YenIsaRap | 219832 | ||
Everyone would agree, Scripture should Interpret Scripture. This piece of Scripture Heb. 6:4-6 stands by itself, with its declarations. These verses say what they say, therefore any Interpretation of them, cannot be accomplished by placing another piece of Scripture along side them, which say the same thing. This then means, they need to be understood for what "they" say. These verses in Hebrews, do not say, anyone fell away, that is a false assumption. This first misunderstanding, then causes another assumption to be made, which would be, the ones being spoken of in these verses, were not saved to begin with. ie, Not True Believers. When these verses say the complete opposite. So then we have come to a totally Illogical, Logical conclusion. Is there anywhere in these three verses of Hebrews, where it even alludes to a person that is not Saved? This is where, and why discussions of Scripture get complicated. It has been said, speak only where the Bible speaks, and to keep silent, where the Bible is silent. This appears to be one of those times, where silence would be golden. At this point, if God did not give further details. That would then mean, God expects us to understand what He has revealed. Shouldn't we be content to learn from it, all that it clearly does reveal, without adding our own speculation, and assumption to this biblical text. This then is what is being dealt with. As per my original post on this topic. Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, Just by the mere fact the verse starts the way it does, makes it abundantly clear, the people that are being spoken of "Are True Believers". Then in the following verse. Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, This is but a continuation of the attributes the believer acquires from God. Culminating with the "IF" in v.6. Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. As you can now see, it is clearly stating the people that are spoken of in verses 4,5 cannot fall away, (IMOPSSIBLE). The entire three verses are stating only "one" immutable fact, nothing else, no addendums. "IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A TRUE BELIEVER TO LOSE THEIR SALVATION" |
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2 | Heb. 6:4-6 Security | Gen 1:1 | YenIsaRap | 219803 | ||
Having endeavored to lay this out as concisely as possible. Placing it into a format, by which each verse could be examined by each of it's individual parts. Starting from the position, ( A True Believer in Christ ) cannot ever, lose their Salvation. In other words, Eternal Security, or Once Saved Always Saved. This position would, and has to also include, any possibility, of Intentionally walking away, or Unintentionally losing it. The believers spoken of in these verses of Hebrews, are True Believers in Christ. With that being the premise, how then is Hebrews 6:4-6 Interpreted ? There are only two logical conclusions, that can be arrived at, for understanding these verses. 1) The believers spoken of, (can fall away, and can never repent again). If this belief is true, then Eternal Security, is a false doctrine. 2) The believers spoken of, (will never fall away) impossible. If this belief is true, then Eternal Security is true, but why, how ? What is that one determining factor, tipping the balance one way, or the other, causing one of these two beliefs to become true, or false ? The "IF" used in vs.6, is most certainly a Hypothetical, it has to be, on account of what Paul said in vs.4. By his use of the word "IMPOSSIBLE", which moves us to an inevitable position, where the "IF" used in verse 6, has to be stated, in order to clarify the entire teaching. Paul's use of the word impossible, forces his use of the "IF", which is a Hypothetical. With that impossible, there is no other recourse, but a Hypothetical. There is no way, to "MODIFY", or "MITIGATE" an "IMPOSSIBILITY". I want to make it perfectly clear at this point. In the case of this being a Hypothetical position that Paul takes in vs.6, it does not in any way, make everything he was teaching in vs.4,5 become a Hypothetical also. With the word impossible being used here by Paul, instead of looking at the end of the teaching, the focus shifts to the beginning. He makes his case for everything in vs.4, 5 summarizing everything in the 6th. by showing what the consequences would be, ("IF"), because of the "IMPOSSIBILITY". Section 1 Heb 6:4 1) For it is impossible 2) for those who were once enlightened, 3) and have tasted of the heavenly gift, 4) and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 1) "HOW" far reaching is "IMPOSSIBLE" for the believer ? 2) "WHAT" is a believer enlightened to ? 3) "WHAT" is the heavenly gift ? 4) "HOW" are believers made to be partakers of the Holy Spirit Section 2 Heb 6:5 1) And have tasted the good word of God, 2) and the powers of the world to come, 1) "HOW" have believers tasted the good word of God ? 2) "HOW" have believers tasted the powers of the world to come.? Section 3 Heb 6:6 1) If 2) they shall fall away, 3) to renew them again unto repentance; 4) seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 1) "WHY" does Paul use the word "IF" ? 2) "What" would make a believer fall away ? 3) "What" would they not be able to repent of "AGAIN" ? 4) "What" was The Son of God crucified "FOR" ? Section 4 These last three questions are the most crucial of all the ones asked. 2) "What" would make a believer fall away ? 3) "What" would they not be able to repent of "AGAIN" ? 4) "What" was The Son of God crucified "FOR" ? With the belief, God only calls those that are the Elect, Predestined. Does he do so, for them to then lose the gift of Grace, or walk away from it ? |
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3 | Love is not a feeling | John 13:1 | YenIsaRap | 219740 | ||
Dear Beja I accept your admonishment, as the Chastisement of the Lord, of His Child. I acknowledge my wrong doing to the forum, and ask for their forgiveness. John I apologias to you publicly, please find it in your heart to forgive me. Blessings YenIsaRap |
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4 | Love is not a feeling | John 13:1 | YenIsaRap | 219718 | ||
Dear John Your very informative quote on what love is, intrigued me greatly, I have done some searching, and found some other quotes from your favorite well known Author, and Psychiatrist - M. Scott Peck I see that he is in your estimation, a perfect example of the type of person, that could truly express the kind of love as taught by Jesus, in the Bible. These quotes of your Mr. Peck, and more can be found at - - - Ascension Gateway.com 1) “Nirvana or lasting enlightenment or true spiritual growth can be achieved only through persistent exercise of real love.” 2) But for the first time, I had a religious identity. I had come home. And so I called myself a Zen Buddhist at the age of 18. 3) I can remember years ago sitting on my bed and suddenly thinking, "I am God." 4) God wants us to become himself or herself or itself. We are growing toward Godhood. God is the goal of evolution. I much prefer this as a definitive definition, and a much more reliable source. ( 1 Cor.13:4-7 ) Bless You YenIsaRap |
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5 | The scribe. | Matt 23:1 | YenIsaRap | 219716 | ||
Dear Lindy21 Chief Priests Scribes Pharisees Elders Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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6 | being deprived | NT general | YenIsaRap | 219712 | ||
Everyone having displayed so much interest in my, optional profile, thank you for your understanding in this matter. The only words I find adequate to express my feelings at this moment are. I love you all my brothers, I Bless each, and every one of you, and you will be in my prayers. May God Bless You Richly YenIsaRap |
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7 | being deprived | NT general | YenIsaRap | 219706 | ||
Dear CDBJ You have managed to peak my curiosity as to why, you would be really anxious to read something of my personal profile ? On the grounds that up to my post to you yesterday, I have only posted to you 1 other time. Let me if I may, help to blow away the clouds of confusion, that have so easily beset you. The reference made to Matt., which has caused your confusion, was in direct conjunction, with my only other reference in Matt. Honestly figuring they would speak to the issue, in that I have let my posts, and my overall conduct, while on the forum speak for themselves. To defray any darkness you may still dwell in, regarding this matter. I have continually striven, to walk in the light which I have been given, that is the teaching we have all received, is it not? Has not my Father been Glorified? Having endeavored to conduct myself, not only in accordance with the TOU. but more importantly with the teachings of Jesus. Have I failed in these my efforts? There are some, that find it easy, to use the Sacred Scripture, as a weapon, rather than, for the use of edification of a brother. Gal.6:7 Please accept my apology, for any difficulty I have caused you, this was not my intent. I pray the time I have taken, will dispel your distress, making your life a little easier. As Always Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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8 | being deprived | NT general | YenIsaRap | 219695 | ||
Dear CDBJ Excellent post, very well done. 1Th 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. Giving direction to the Lord, where he will reveal Himself, is what should be done. Walk in His Love YenIsaRap |
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9 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219683 | ||
Dear Val Yes there is a need to apologize, I'm sorry, for whatever it was, I did it unintentionally. 1) What source have you used for your definition? "Salvation means believing God" 2) Where would one find in the Bible, people were saved in this manner? "In the Old Testament, people were saved by looking forward to the birth of Christ" I have taken note that, within your profile you say. "You have a certificate for vacation bible school when I was one year of age." While you may think that your profile is appropriate, it does not give any information at all about your background. There isn't any information from you, that would allow anybody to measure how detailed an answer needs to be for you. I feel an answer should be given that would answer the question, rather than attempting to answer to a persons intellect. Including scripture where necessary, to verify, or even to speak the truth that is being put forward. It is better to let God do the work, for which His word is sent. He is fully capable of teaching the hearers. I am only assuming that by saying background you meant, Church affiliations I have had, or do have now. As well as my Theological, and Doctrinal Beliefs, maybe even what Teachers, Authors I admire. Are those the things you mean, I should consider placing in my profile? Then consider it considered:-) Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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10 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219678 | ||
Dear Val Sorry, but the table has already been cleared. I don't know what I did to make you feel so much anger. I Humbly apologize, please forgive me? I did ask you two questions that you haven't answered as yet. If you do not like to be asked where your information comes from, then post it to start with. Otherwise I will assume you are just speculating on the issue being discussed. We should always strive to provide the appropriate scripture, thereby lending credence to our statements. Col 4:6 - - - Eph 4:29 Blessings And a Merry Christmas to you too YenIsaRap |
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11 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219661 | ||
Dear Brad Thank you for the time you have spent, nice discussion:-) Could you please, answer one more question if you would? Where, and When did this Theology, Doctrine, Belief originate, Who was the first one to put it into a comprehensive Teaching? I say Teaching because all of you haven't come to this understanding individually. There must be some book somewhere that has the thoughts of the original author. I am curious, as I would personally like to do, an in depth study on this subject, rather than debate it without the cohesive, contextual chain of thought, originally intended, by the author. Attempting to learn a subject through debate, would be likened to building a house, by starting with the blueprints for the second story, and completely omitting the Plumbing, and Electrical blueprints altogether. You have no Idea, as to how I have grown in the Lord, since my coming to the Forum, this has truly been a learning place for me, I fully believe the Lord led me here, and has stretched me greatly. As always Be blessed YenIsaRap |
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12 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219653 | ||
Dear Brad Sorry it is apparently my fault.:-/ You say "The OT saint looked forward to the Christ and the cross" But your only scripture that backs up your statement, is New Test. (John 8:58) And that is a statement made by Jesus about Himself, which does not saying anything at all, about the beliefs of the Old Test. Jewish Nation. The thing that is lacking, is the Old Test. scripture that states, there WAS SALVATION afforded to the Jewish People before Jesus became our sacrifice. The only thing they were given was the Law, which was to lead them to the knowledge they needed a Savior, because no one gains Righteousness by the works of the Law. Another scripture, that would shed a lot of light on this subject, would be the one that says the Jewish People were looking for a Savior, someone that would save them from their sins. They had the Law, that they believed they could keep. They had no need for a Savior. They were looking for a Messiah, the definition of which does not say (Savior). Anointed, Consecrated, King, or Priest, which is what the definition does say. (Strong's) You ask "Are you saying Jews were not saved in the OT?" "Yes" I have not to this point, seen any evidence to the contrary. When statements are made like VAL "In the old testament people were saved by looking forward to the birth of Christ." That requires a Scripture to back it up. Without Scripture, it is nothing more than a supposition, assumption. Could you answer these for me? 1) If you would, could you explain how was a Jew saved, prior to Christ's atonement, proselyte or not? 2) Was it by the works of the Law? Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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13 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219649 | ||
Dear Brad I'm terribly sorry for my mistake, please excuse me. I was under the impression that the question was about Jews being saved, in some way before Jesus. But now I see the whole question was about, the Few Righteous people throughout the Bible like Abram. But wasn't he a non Circumcised Gentile at the time he was declared Righteous by God.? Your using (Rom.4) as your source, where the name is Abraham, in an account after the fact, take a look in the old Test. Gen 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Gen 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. Were not all of the others such a Able, Enoch, Noah weren't they also of the Uncircumcision, (Gentiles). Then the rest, those that were in the loins of "Abraham". These are the ones that we can call Jews. Heb 11:12,13 12) Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. 13) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. They died in faith of the promises to come, not having received them. But not in the Faith that is of Salvation. Blessings YenIsaRap |
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14 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219647 | ||
Dear Brad If you would, could you explain how was a Jew saved, prior to Christ's atonement, proselyte or not? Was it by the works of the Law? For as our beloved brother Paul has said. Rom 9:31,32 31) But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32) Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. Blessings in Emmanuel YenIsaRap |
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15 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219640 | ||
Dear Val Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Salvation was not available to mankind, until the Atoning Sacrifice made by Jesus. What source have you used for your definition? "Salvation means believing God" Where would one find in the Bible, people were saved in this manner? "In the old testament people were saved by looking forward to the birth of Christ" Blessings in Jesus YenIsaRap |
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16 | How many Healed | Mark 5:29 | YenIsaRap | 219599 | ||
Dear John # 1) The woman that touched His garment. Mat 9:22 But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; (THY FAITH HATH MADE THE WHOLE). And the woman was made whole from that hour. # 2) Blind man shouting, "Thou Son of David, have mercy on me". Mar 10:52 And Jesus said unto him, Go thy way; (THY FAITH HATH MADE THEE WHILE). And immediately he received his sight, and followed Jesus in the way. # 3) The only leper out of the ten, returned giving him thanks: Luk 17:19 And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: (THY FAITH HATH MADE THEE WHOLE). Three different circumstances where JESUS said "Thy Faith Hath Made Thee Whole". Although we all understand God is always doing the healing, no matter what the mode of operation. As far as your reference to ( Isa. 53:5, 1 Pet. 2:24 ) there isn't any argument with your scriptures, the rendering of them are correct. They are speaking of the Spiritual healing, not the physical,.but the way you have placed them in this thread, they are just a case of muddying the water, your bringing apples to a topic about oranges. "Oh" by the way, my original question was only asked, because during a study I was conducting, I came across the scripture in Matt.14 it really intrigued me that I had never seen it in all of my years of reading the Bible, so I very innocently asked the question I did, in order to find out if anyone else on the Forum had ever seen it. I think from your response, you summed it up very nicely, my suspicions were correct. It wasn't a trick question, it was purely asked for information, knowledge, as any question posted should be. I always thought the woman was the only person ever healed in that manner, and apparently so did everyone else, but now we all know there were possible hundreds. I guess then in the long run, we have all learned something, and that is a good thing. When God can teach us something, it is always good isn't it? Have a Blessed Week YenIsaRap |
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17 | How many Healed | Mark 5:29 | YenIsaRap | 219584 | ||
More than you have ever believed. Mathew 14:34-36 Blessings YenIsaRap |
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18 | How many Healed | Mark 5:29 | YenIsaRap | 219573 | ||
Dear John Thank you very much for your time in answering. So let me clarify, sorry for any ambiguity;-( How many people through faith, the power of the Holy Ghost, and by the will of God, obtained a "supernatural" healing, after only touching the hem of Jesus garment? God Bless YenIsaRap |
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19 | How many Healed | Not Specified | YenIsaRap | 219559 | ||
How many people were healed by touching the hem of the garment of Jesus? | ||||||
20 | How many Healed | Mark 5:29 | YenIsaRap | 219560 | ||
How many people were healed by touching the hem of the garment of Jesus? | ||||||
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