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Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Author: Wanda B. Ordered by Date |
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1 | Pray that God will guide the doctors in | Not Specified | Wanda B. | 109476 | ||
Today at 3:15PM, my boss called me into her office. She closed the door and told me that she has some spots on her lungs that her doctors have been watching; with her last catscan (last week) the spots had multiplied and were growing. This lady is 46 years old and has never smoked a day in her life; she has 2 children (19 and 22) and hadn't had time to call her husband with the information. Pray that God will guide the doctors in their diagnosis and treatment; ask God to prepare her and her family for what's in store and to give them the strength, courage and wisdom they need. She is born again. I told her I would put her on as many prayer lists as I could find. She said to tell you "thank you". This is my heartfelt "thank you" as well. |
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2 | Pray that God will guide the doctors in | Exodus | Wanda B. | 109491 | ||
Today at 3:15PM, my boss called me into her office. She closed the door and told me that she has some spots on her lungs that her doctors have been watching; with her last catscan (last week) the spots had multiplied and were growing. This lady is 46 years old and has never smoked a day in her life; she has 2 children (19 and 22) and hadn't had time to call her husband with the information. Pray that God will guide the doctors in their diagnosis and treatment; ask God to prepare her and her family for what's in store and to give them the strength, courage and wisdom they need. She is born again. I told her I would put her on as many prayer lists as I could find. She said to tell you "thank you". This is my heartfelt "thank you" as well. |
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3 | v18-20 refers to church leaders? | Rom 1:18 | Wanda B. | 108762 | ||
Romans 1:18-20 In verses 18-20, is Paul referring to all men or to a specific group i.e. Leaders, Teachers, Policitians, Priests, Church leaders, etc.? During Paul's time and before, did ALL people know there was a God in heaven or had some not heard? If all had heard, when/how did the world get to the point of some people having never heard? Your replies will be most appreciated! God bless! Wanda B. |
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4 | Are you interested in studying with me? | Bible general Archive 2 | Wanda B. | 108295 | ||
Hi Callie: I'm new in this forum, so I don't know if there are live studies in here or not. I DO know that there's a small (5 participants) live study in Fellowship, on thursday nights at 8CST. We are studying the book of Romans (finishing chapter 2). We haven't gone so far that you would have a hard time catching up, if you're interested. If you will email me, I'll send you the link. God bless! wsb |
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5 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108294 | ||
Thank you, CDBJ. God bless, wsb |
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6 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108169 | ||
Kalos: Please see the postings of 1/4/04. god bless! wsb |
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7 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108167 | ||
Dear Searcher: In reply to your question about my belief, I believe God made special provisions for all who are incompetent. The Old Testament saints were saved although they did not have a complete knowledge of the salvation plan. Acts 17:27,and again in 1 Peter 1:10-11 (10) Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, (11) trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. (12) It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.” So, it is possible to be saved by God through Christ even if you haven’t heard or don’t understand all the facts of the Gospel. (This includes babies - born, unborn, aborted - the mentally challenged and those who die prior to hearing God’s plan for salvation (i.e. Old Testament members, including David and his son as well as the others you list). Romans 5:17-19: (17)"Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned 18)Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (19.) For as through the one mans disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. The scriptures you reference, as well as the ones used during the ‘Where Do Babies Go When They Die’ study, do not give us God’s exact plan of action concerning these individuals. What those scriptures DO tell us is that there are provisions for special cases, set up by God. Just as God chose not to tell us what will happen in our lives over the next year, He also chose not to tell us the hard, fast rules that apply to these situations. According to I Peter 1:12 even the angels would like to have a concrete answer about these things! Once an individual reaches age of accountability (IMO, has heard the plan of salvation and understood it), then we reach accountability for being righteousness or unrighteousness. As for Sodom and Gomorrah, I don’t know how God handled that situation. I agree with you that there probably were babies in the womb and living there. I also know (but can't find it) that scripture tells us that our children may very well suffer for some of our sins. I'm sure this was a determining factor God took into consideration about Sodom and Gomorrah. When I get to Heaven I’ll try to remember to ask, but may not be allowed to let you know what I find out. ;) Logically and emotionally, every bone in my body refuses to believe God would condemn an unborn child or a child too young to understand the plan of salvation, but God doesn't give us any definite answers. He gives us scripture to read and a direct 'hot line' to Him for guidance. We are to ask for His guidance. Just for the record, personally, I would never teach anything I could not/did not believe. Someone else would have to lead a study. Should you have any further questions, please re-read all three parts of the study posted above. |
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8 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108123 | ||
I'll get back to you, Searcher. God bless! wsb |
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9 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108122 | ||
Hi JShort: After some thinking, I posted the study in 3 parts as notes to you/my reply to you. I'm not sure how this forum works, so you may need to look for it. Please let me know if this helps. God bless! wsb |
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10 | 2 Sam. 12:23 promises to save babies? | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108088 | ||
No, I do not agree. Please see my posting this date, Parts 1 - 3, to get the full understanding of your question. | ||||||
11 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108087 | ||
Where Do Babies go When They Die? Part 3 of 3) E: Christ's Act has brought life eternal for us. Leader: Upon acceptance, yes. This is where I have difficulty. Leader: Let's back up a bit. Someone please post Romans 5:18-19; everybody else get pencils ready. 18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. E: Okay, those verses sum up what I said previously. Through one, comes condemnation, the other, righteousness. Leader: Yes. Now, please post I Peter 1:10-11. E, if it's OK for us to be represented by Christ for salvation, we must also accept the sin imposed upon us (meaning humans) by Adam. I Peter 1:10-11: 10) Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you. 11) Searching what, or what manner of time the spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. It is very possible for to be save by God through Christ even if we don't understand all of the plan of Salvation -- this covers babies - born and unborn -, very young children, mentally challenged people. Make sense? "How many infants does God save in this way? Scripture does not tell us, so we simply cannot know. Where Scripture is silent, it is unwise for us to make definitive pronouncements. However, we should recognize that it is Gods frequent pattern throughout Scripture to save the children of those who believe in him." E: The one thing that keeps coming to me and is reinforced by the posts just sent is how God's Spirit testifies to those who do not or did not know about Christ. Leader: The salvation of those who cannot cognitively understand their sinful condition or Gods cure is a mystery. It is not clearly revealed to us. But we have shown above that it is possible and has happened with at least David’s son. II Samuel 12:23 tells us about David's infant son that died. Part of Gods nature is mercy and He bestows His mercy and His grace on whom He will. Since God is all knowing, He knows which babies will not have a chance at life outside the womb and if He wishes He can save them like David’s son. David is saying that he knows he cannot bring his son back to live. But he also knows he will REJOIN him in Heaven. The point is that God is perfectly fair. He gives each of us a time in our lives to choose to believe in Jesus Christ or not. Under normal circumstances, each of us will reach God consciousness (age of accountability). E: And how does he know this? He knows this because of the Spirit of Truth Leader: David was a man close to God's heart. Remember? Jeremiah 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart, and Acts 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if happy they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: E: Each one will come to an age of consciousness of the Truth. Leader: Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all of your heart. What we call 'age of accountability. E: And yes, that will come to our heart's consciousness. leader: And God did this so men would seek Him and perhaps reach out to Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. I have drawn this conclusion: Obviously, not all of us are going to die prematurely i.e. babies. God made provision for those of us who die old and those who die as infants or before they are mature enough to understand the Plan of Salvation. How God does it is not my concern. He deliberately chose not to tell me that part, so I accept, by faith, that He has made a special provision for these little ones. Just as He made a special provision for old folks like me. I accept this only by faith - the same faith that I accept Christ as my Savior on. D: We might never know the answers to certain questions, until we get to heaven. E: I agree that God has chosen each one of us to be saved and that when and if he reveals this Truth to us, we should accept it. Leader: That's right. He may not choose to ever tell us. Anyone have any other questions? B: It answered my questions Leader: Started by placing their faith in Christ, Scripture teaches that condemnation is based on the CLEAR REJECTION of God's revelation-whether general or specific- not simple ignorance of it. Luke 10:16: He that hearth you hearth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me. Now John 12:48 46. I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. E: to make a willful decision, you must have knowledge of what the truth is Leader: Exactly!!BINGO!! |
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12 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108086 | ||
Where do Babies Go When They Die? (Part 2 of 3) E: The reason for this is that salvation is not an act of themselves. It is an act of God, His Son Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Leader. Wayne Grudem supports this view as well. He writes: "God is able to save infants in an unusual way, apart from their hearing and understanding the Gospel, by bringing regeneration to them very early, sometimes even before birth. This regeneration is probably also followed at once by a nascent, intuitive awareness of God and trust in him at an extremely early age, but this is something we simply cannot understand". E: I was asking you if you would simplify that. I don't think there is anything unusual about God choosing to bring an infant, unborn or child to him. B: The sentence...by bringing regeneration to them early E: I disagree that a child even needs to be restored. It sounds ridiculous to me that God would even deny an infant, unborn child or innocent child for any amount of time, when he has provided Christ even before any of us were born into sin. Leader: We are all born with a sin nature - even though a child never commits a sin – E: The sin nature… Leader: That sin nature must be covered. Right? E: Explain sin nature at birth. What exactly is a sin nature of an innocent baby? T: tendency to turn towards evil E: I have been researching this for over a week and the more I researched the more I am convinced! Seriously, do you think a child is born with sinful desires? Leader: Ps. 51:5 says we are conceived sinners, born (Ps. 58:3) Leader: E, God didn't ask for my opinion He just did it. E: I am sorry, I am frustrated with all the opinions I have found. I know that the consequence of Adam's sin for us is death. Leader: Logically and emotionally, every bone in my body refused to believe God would condemn an unborn child or a child too young to understand the plan of salvation, but God doesn't give us any definite answers. He gives us scripture to read and a direct 'hot line' to Him for guidance. We are to ask for His guidance. D: And trust in Him to be righteous Leader: Getting frustrated only makes it harder to draw the conclusion closest to His heart. E: Adam's Act has brought death to us, Leader: yes |
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13 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108085 | ||
Where Do Babies Go When They Die? (Part1 of 3) A Bible Study and Discussion Thu Sep 12, 2002, 21:16:19 CDT, Abba Father’s House 1 Bible Study Group Leader: This is a controversial topic, there are different schools of thought here depending on how you understand the concept of original sin. Different churches understand the doctrine differently. So before we go further, I'd like to look at the main passages from where this doctrine stems. Romans 5:12, 19 - "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned (...) For as through the one mans disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. Here, Paul states that the sin of one man (Adam) has caused us all to be sinners. Paul links death and sin together and argues that we share in Adams death because we share in Adams sin Leader: Psalm 51:5 - "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me." Here we see the Psalmist noting that even at his birth he was considered sinful. This idea is reinforced by the command in Leviticus 12:7 for a sin offering after having a baby. Leviticus 12:5,7 (5) If she gives birth. (7) He shall offer them before the Lord to make atonement for here and then she will be ceremonially clean from her flow of blood. The history of St. Augustine and Pelagians needs to be looked into to completely understand the full impact. St. Augustine brought the doctrine of original sin to prominence in his writings against the Pelagians and their heresies. The Pelagians held that "every human being is by nature as pure as Adam was before he sinned." Augustine argued against the Pelagians to show original sin existed in every person. His argument can be summarized as follows: ((...before I go any further, there was a conference of several months, back in early history and these are the results of that conference of many, many theologians.) 1. Death is a consequent of Adams sin (see Genesis 3:19, 1 Cor. 15:21) 2. All men are Adams progeny, inheriting Adams conditions. 3. All men are mortal, prone to die. 4. Therefore, all men share in the consequent of Adams sin. 5. Therefore, all men have inherited Adams sin. E: we are all born into a sinful nature, yes. Leader: In the argument they made an explicit statement that salvation is "provided by God, through Jesus, to the repentant believing sinner". This statement is true. However, it also must be noted that the Old Testament saints were saved although they did not have a complete knowledge of the salvation act. Leader: 1 Peter 1:10-11 (10) Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, (11) trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. Leader: So it is possible to be saved by God through Christ even if you don’t understand all the facts of the Gospel. |
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14 | do all babies and children go to heaven | 2 Sam 12:23 | Wanda B. | 108082 | ||
Dear JShort: About a year ago my Bible study group did a on this very subject. The transcript is over 5000 words, so I can't copy and paste it in here for you (I tried). If you can, reply and I will post it in more than 1 message. Take care and God bless! wsb |
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