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1 | love...as himself (if no self-love?) | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 67085 | ||
Dear Brother Moran: As promised, I've spent two weeks in diligent study concerning this issue. My findings are that the Hebrew word ezer means simply "aid, help". And has nothing to do with power whatsover. There simply is no way of looking at this Hebrew word that would suggest that Eve was created as a greater power. The constant theme in the Bible contradicts the whole notion that Eve was created as a power for which Adam was to be subserviant. The strict interpretation and very definition of the word ezer contradicts that idea. And no more can be implied to the word ezer than can be implied to our English word "help". It is disappointing to me that men like Dr. Kaiser go outside the principles of good teaching and clear language for the purpose of their own grandizement. In thus doing they deceive others. Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, Thanks, Sebkin |
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2 | Is reverence feasible? Always? | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65679 | ||
Mommapbs: So, I discerned correctly. You do have a problem with Rabbi Mark. And the problem stems from an inference that you feel that he made toward you with another Forum member. I haven't seen that you have this problem with any other members of the Forum. And you certainly haven't answered me in an unreasonable manner. I'm taking a long shot here, so please forgive me if I am wrong. But I'm just going by my male logic. Is part of the problem you have with Rabbi Mark is his being Jewish? I'm not accusing you of racism. I just want to know if this is a factor in the equation. After all the Jews did crucify Christ! Whether his Jewishness is a factor or not, I am impressed to hear that you do fear God. And that you have a great love for God. Because of this I would like to share with you the following scripture, "Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;" Don't let your intimacy with God be spoiled by a root of bitterness over some implied accusation. Try to work it out with Rabbi Mark. I think its better to have him as a member of the team rather than cast him out because he implied something. Are you sure he meant to imply this? Sebkin |
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3 | Is reverence feasible? Always? | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65662 | ||
Srchng, I can see now that I was hasty in my note to mommapbs. It seems that even Rabbi Mark seems to think so. But I felt she was railing on him. He was using excellent quotes and proving his assertions. She was stating opinion as though it was scripture and seemed to be mocking him with it. I have studied the scripture for many years and it has always disturbed me when someone mocks someone in authority who is trying to help them. I had only a few minutes to send out a note and acted more on passion than compassion. Reading it over I suppose I was more harsh than she deserved. I'm sorry it disturbed you. I'll do better in the future. Sebkin |
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4 | love...as himself (if no self-love?) | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65661 | ||
Thank you Tim for this information. It warrants a word study of my own. I'm certainly willing to look into it further. There are many secrets locked up in the original languages. Sebkin |
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5 | Is reverence feasible? Always? | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65660 | ||
Dear Tim: I read it again also. And I can see why you haven't seen what I consider antagonism. I wrote that post after collectively reading all of mommapbs post to Rabbi Mark. It was actually the culmination of those post that upset me. Taken in their entirety there are buzz words and flippant attudes that make it seem that she is railing on Rabbi Mark. I guess I responded too quickly. Rabbi Mark posted a note to me stating he found no offense. I guess I'm just quick to stick up for the under dog. |
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6 | Is reverence feasible? Always? | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65607 | ||
mommapbs, I hate to butt into a good argument. It seems like you are really doing your best to bash Rabbi Mark who has some really great insight. But reading your rebuke I ask myself the question. Does your husband know what is going on in his kingdom while he is not present with you? I mean, I don't know what my wife is doing while I am not with her. So how could Adam have known what was going on while he was not with Eve? Could you elaborate on that. Did he have a 6th sense? I have been reading your postings. You say a lot of remarkable things that really need to be proven. But you never provide scripture that is relavent to what you say. And when you do provide scripture and I look it up -- it is totally irrelevant to the context. And as far as fearing God. This is a basic Christian doctrine. New and Old Testaments. Did you ever read how the apostle John fell on his face as if dead before Jesus as He appeared before him in the vision of Revelation 1:17? It goes like this, "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades" I am saved. And I fear God. And why do you have such antagonism in your postings for Rabbi Mark? Does he threaten you? Are you afraid of the way He quotes God's Word to support his postings? I can't really see anything that he has said that should offend you so much. I don't think that this forum is meant for the antagonistic attitude you are displaying. And I think there are rules against it. Sebkin |
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7 | love...as himself (if no self-love?) | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65601 | ||
Dear Brother Moran: This is an interesting article. But who is Walter Kaiser, Jr? I must submit that no other interpretation of the Bible interprets helpmete as "power". And most Bible versions are interpreted by the best scholars the age has to offer who are experts in language and theology. Those experts usually do not try to sensationalize but tend to put the words in a proper context that meshes with the whole of scripture. The article that you presented does not stand up to the test of scripture which always puts women in the submissive role. And nature itself places woman below the man. Not to mention the many Bible verses that tell the woman to be obedient and reverent of their husband. After studying the entire Bible for more than 20 years, I must dismiss this argument as one man's attempt to support the ideology of the 20th century. There have always been such men who try to sensationalize and make themselves appear an authority based on miniscule jots and tittles. But on the whole their work is always diminished by the next generation who does the same thing but to a different degree to support new ideologies. The article made me think. Thanks for the opportunity of providing this resource for review. Sebkin |
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8 | Either / or? | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65595 | ||
What you are describing here is the basic conflict between the sexes that exist commonly in our society today. As a man, I will say this. I am forced to take the brunt of life's unfairness without a wimper or a wine or to ask anyone to support me, give me a hug, or push me on. I am expected to pick myself up by my boot strings and keep going. Because of this, I am perfectly oblivious to my wife's need for a hug, or the fact that she has had a hard day. If I knew of it, I would be happy to sacrifice my time and give her those things. But I often do not know about it until it is too late and I've screwed up -- in her sight. Communication is the key here. The woman should not expect the man to know all of these things. And she should make it known. And then once he knows she should allow him to think about it -- because lets face it -- sometimes it takes an hour or so for the simple and the obvious to penetrate a man's sophisticated mind. Men should give time to their wives, their family, and other obligations. Men give the time that they think is needed. Which may or may not be sufficient. So the need must be made known to the man. The man of today faces many problems. His mind is always working on them. But the man's mind is logical and can only work on one problem at a time. Therefore, he must have time to solve the problem his mind is currently working on before it will open up and let him consider another one -- such as his wife needs a hug. There are many more problems than today's man can deal with. And the man does need time by himself. To separate and sort these things. And to become refreshed. The man is a problem solver. If a woman needs a man to sacrifice the volunteer work and the fishing -- the reason has to be made perfectly clear to him. He must weigh and balance and then decide. The answer is not always so obvious to him. But he will never forfeit the volunteer work, or the fishing if he is met with hostility, resentment, or if his authority is usruped. He is a man and he will hold firm that he has a right to these things. But if you want a biblical and reasonable way for a woman to respond to a man to get what she wants out of him ... take a look at Samson and Deliah. Remember that Deliah met Samson with softness, tenderness, with asking, with petitions. She let him be strong. She didn't usurp him. And through this she not only got what she wanted. She conquered him. If an evil woman like this can overcome a man of God by using the common sense to present herself to be in the place where God planned for the women to be ... Just think what a godly woman could do with the same strategy. Modern woman has tried it every other way. Why don't they give God's Word a chance, believe it, and try it for once. It will work out a lot better than they think. Sebkin |
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9 | love...as himself (if no self-love?) | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65592 | ||
Rabbi Mark: You are right about me speculating too much. I apologize to both you and srchng. Sebkin |
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10 | Either / or? | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65554 | ||
I'm not sure what you mean. Could you give a specific and real example? | ||||||
11 | love...as himself (if no self-love?) | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65535 | ||
Rabbi Mark: Isn't a rabbi a Jewish Pastor? I didn't know that Jewish Rabbi's believed in Jesus. Do you believe in Jesus? Are you saved? I think you have some good insight into what it means for a man to love his wife. And I agree that this passage does not state that a man should love himself romantically -- and it would naturally follow that this is not a romantic love. But women today expect far more from a man then just food and clothing and a roof over their head. Do you think they expect too much? Do you think any greater expectations from a woman toward her husband is a violation of the respect that she should have for her husband? I think that srchng is looking for a cure for her husband. It seems she is saying that her husband does not love himself and what good is it if he loves his wife the same way? Do you think she deserves more love than her husband is giving her? Or do you think she expects too much of him? |
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12 | Either / or? | Eph 5:33 | Sebkin | 65528 | ||
I think that your analogy makes a lot of sense: "total self sacrifice for the sake of the joy (and even pleasure) of exceeding excellence in intimate, lasting relationship. ". But as far as the concept of Jesus having thrown away a long happy life (I disagree with the concept that he threw away that kind of life). The reason I disagree with that is because He existed in heaven before He came to earth. He was far superior and far happier as God than man. It would be like us becoming a snail and then settling for a long happy life as a snail. That doesn't make sense. But his love and his passion for us caused Him to became a man and then submit to torture and death to salvage us ... now that is a good analogy for the husbands passion for his wife. And I believe that each and every woman who has a husband (christian or not) could benefit greatly if she gave the due respect, fear, and reverence whether she thought her husband deserved it or not. Because man is made in the image of God man has this natural sort of protective, loving, and sacrificial feeling toward his wife. But man also has a sense of justice. And the balance is upset when the wife usurps the mans authority. When this happens the man immediately enters into judgment mode to keep the wife in the place where she belongs. I think your analogy is borne out by: Ephesians 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it." |
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13 | Son of..... reference in the Bible? | 1 Kin 19:16 | Sebkin | 60379 | ||
Thank you Makarios for the edification. I am new to the forum and I see your user name often. You appear to have a lot of biblical knowledge, and it means a lot to have a brother in agreement. The findings on this subject are not my own. For as I said I was horribly frustrated. Were it not for the leading of the Holy Spirit, I would never have been able to come to this understanding on my own. So I humbly acknowledge the Glory to God...who has promised that if we seek we shall find. |
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14 | Son of..... reference in the Bible? | 1 Kin 19:16 | Sebkin | 60322 | ||
In pure frustration I once asked God the answer to the question: Why are all these names in the Bible? I can't even pronounce them. Surely they are outdated and unimportant. But God told me that everything He put in the Bible is very important and has significant meaning. So I promised that I would study genealogy if He would show me the importance. And He did. First, He showed me that genealogy is a dating method -- from whence we can date the beginning of the earth (some theologians disagree with this but there are holes in their theory). Secondly, Genealogy can reveal history or prophecy. For example the name Peleg means "division" in the Hebrew language. Peleg was named because the earth was divided in his days. Scientist believe the continents were divided in prehistoric times. But an understanding of Peleg's name and the fact that he lived during the time of the Tower of Babel gives us more insight into the actual historical date the the earth was divided into continents. All Biblical names have an interpretation. And those interpretations can shed light and meaning on many things we don't understand. Sincerely, Sebkin |
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