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Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Author: M. J. Head Ordered by Date |
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1 | Why this is not taught? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 145058 | ||
Hello Mark; You are most helpfull and reassuring. You are absolutely right about this truth being so "liberating, empowering, and revolutionized" in our walk with Christ. Liberating because I now know where that sin in my life comes from, and I know much better how to deal with it. Thank you; MJH |
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2 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 145049 | ||
Hello Russ; That is interesting, and I mostly agree with what Nee says in your quote. However it does not seem to address the issue of a new sinless nature resulting from the new birth as per 1 John 3:9 and it says nothing of the ongoing conflict between the old and new nature in a christians life as the last part of Romans 7 so clearly describes. By the way, it appears that you may have electronic access to Nee's works. Is his stuff available on the web? Thanks, MJH |
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3 | Why this is not taught? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144979 | ||
Hello Mark; That is good. I would like to know if you have some thoughts on why nearly all commentators and most pasters do not teach this aspect of the new birth? Actually, I believe it would be safe to say that the new birth itself is not taught today as it should be MJH |
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4 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144910 | ||
Hello CDBJ; Well, obviously, I am new at this forum discussion and I was only referring to the ones that I had written to. I will do as you suggest and explore some more. Thanks; M. J. Head |
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5 | does this mean we aren't born again . | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144896 | ||
Hello Elice Fox; If you would search the posts under my name (M. J.. Head), I think they would help clear up some of the confusion. You are not alone in having trouble with this verse. It bothered me for a long time. Please respond if you find these helpful. M. J. Head |
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6 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144895 | ||
Thank you Mark; Post #141096 was not on this subject but the other one was. I am very gratefull to you for that positive response. I am trying to solidify this interpretation of the new birth by getting as many opinions as I can. Not that I am following man's opinions rather than scripture, but I had never heard but one person espouse this doctrine and I did not get it from him. I was having a somewhat difficult time getting folks on this forum to understand what I was saying. Most had never heard of the two natures (old man, new man) and thus could not quite grasp what this was all about, As I have said before, the fundamental issue is what is the source of sin in a born again believer. I am convinced that the source cannot possibly be that which is born of God! And I finally saw that in 1 John 3:9,5:18 and Rom. 7 and several other places that mention the new creation or creature. Thanks; M. J. Head |
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7 | No real life for a fetus? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144829 | ||
Hello, CDBJ; Thanks for your response. According to your response, an aborted "fetus" was not real soul life! Would this be a correct interpretation of your statement? M. J. Head |
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8 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144828 | ||
Hello Ray; Thanks for the response. I am trying to get feedback on this interpretation of mine (and others). One thing that I am not sure about from your responses is whether or not that you deny or discount the present continued conflict between the two natures in a believer? M. J. Head |
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9 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144747 | ||
Hello Ray; I'm not sure I totally agree with MacArthur though he is a bible scholar and I am not. The way I see this is consistant with 1 John 3:9 in that the one that is born of God (the "new man", the "new creation") is incapable of sin and keeps himself from being influenced or corrupted by Satan. It cannot mean that the one born of God keeps himself(the whole man) from sin because 1 John chap. 1 denies this, and we know from our own experience that we do sin, and Paul is clear on that point in the latter part of Romans 7. We have two natures within us that war against each other and we, the whole person, are responsible for choices of our will, whether we choose to obey the new man or the old man. When we yield to the old nature, we sin, when we obey the new man we do not sin. By the way, Paul in Rom. 7:17,20 is describing the new nature ("it is no more I that that do it")and then the old nature, self ("but sin that dwelleth in me"). The "I" in the first part cannot be the same entity as the "me" in the second part, because otherwise he would contrdict himself. He makes the destinction very clear in verse 25 where he says " So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin." What do you think? M. J. Head |
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10 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144719 | ||
Hello CDBJ, Sorry for the long delay, I had other priorities. It is a difficult subject to get ones arms around. I referred the 2 souls for want of a better explanation for the source of sin in a believers life. To me it is very important to understand what that source is. I cannot accept the interpretation of many commentators that 1 John 1:9 and 5:18 are referring to a continueing sin in that which is born of God. The "seed" is from God. If it is even capable of sin then we have a huge problem on our hands! We would be saying that new creature, that new man, being born of God, is cabable of sin, and thus christ died in vain!! Because He was manifested to take away our sins, in Him is no sin, etc, we make God the source of sin in the believers life, if indeed that sin has its source in the new nature that is born of God. What do you think? Thank you, M. J. Head |
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11 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144404 | ||
Hello CDBJ; I believe that our body is simply the "house" that our soul, mind, and spirit live in. The soul that we were born with has and does sin and is condemned as you quoted in Ezekiel 18:20. I believe that in 1Cor 5:5, Paul is saying that "the destruction of the flesh" is to destroy the power of the old nature over this believer, who ,by the way, returned later asking for forgiveness.(in 2 Cor) I believe that we believers (born again ones) have a new (soul if you wish) that is created by God in righteousness and true holiness (Eph 4:24) and that the "old man",ie, the old soul if you wish is still with us conflicting with the desires of the "new man" and the Holy Spirit. We still have a will to choose which we will obey and are therefore still responsible to God for the choice we make. If we "yield" to sin then we do not loose our salvation(we are sons of God) but we do suffer loss of fellowship with Him. If we hit ourselves on the thumb with a hammer, well ,we are responsible for our actions. I hope this helps explain my position which of course is not infallible. Your brother in Christ; M. J. Head |
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12 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144400 | ||
Hello brother Doc; As to your 1st comment, I believe that when Paul says "I am crucified with Christ" he is obviously not saying that he was physically crucified at any time. What I believe he, by the Holy Spirit was saying is that it was a spiritual thing in that Christ through the suffering of His own soul and body was declaring that our old nature was "dead" to God. That is, that God cannot use our old nature in any way whatsoever. As far as God is concerned we (our old nature, the "old man") is of no use to Him at all. Many times in the New Testiment "dead" or "death" does not referr to the death of the body(see Col 3) but to separation from God. I'm not sure if you call that a metaphor or not. Of course I could be wrong also! As for your 2nd comment, I'm not sure what kind of errors you mean. And Romans 6 though 8, especially Romans 7 is, to me, a clear statement regarding the conflict between the two natures in a believer. Your brother, M. J. Head |
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13 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144335 | ||
Again, the answer is tied to the two natures as I said before. We as the whole person consisting of both the new nature and the old nature can and do commit sin. And we are responsible to God for the sin that we (our will) allows into our lives. Perhaps the confusion lies with a misunderstanding that when we become believers (are born again) the old nature is not regenerated or made new and is still with us. God gives us a completely new nature wherein, I believe, the Holy Spirit resides. When the bible speaks of us being crucified with Christ on the cross, it does not mean that our old sinfull nature has been eradicated, but that God judged the old nature with its sin as being totally incapable of righteousness and of no use to Him whatsoever! Thus the necessity for the new birth in and through faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. He paid the full penalty for all sin that we could not possibly even begin to pay. I hope this helps. M. J. Head |
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14 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144332 | ||
This subject of sin in a believers life is tied to the doctrine of the two natures that results from the new creation. (Ro 6:6 ; 2 Cor 5:17 ; Eph 2:15; 4:22-24 ; Col 3:9,10) Believers do indeed sin. 1 John 1 establishes that. The question is , what is the origen of that sin? Paul in Romans 7 states that "it is no longer I that do it (sin), but sin that dwells within me". And at the end of the passage he makes a very important statement; "so then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin". Paul is not talking here as an unbeliever but he is describing the conflict within a believer between the new man (himself) and the old man(the flesh) . To anwer your question, no, free will does not stop at salvation. Yes, we are capable of doing the the wrong thing willfully. And that is the point that our will is what chooses to do what the new man desires or what the old man wants. Sin resides with the old unregenerate flesh (old man) that was born of our mother. There is no sin in the new man that was born of God. When we sin , we yield (the will) to the lusts and temptations that come from the old nature or come through the old nature from the world around us. I believe that the KJV has 1 John 3:9 and 5:18 translated correctly |
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15 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144316 | ||
I agree completely with you! Anyone born of or fathered by God connot even be capable of sin! We are a new creation (of God). (1Pet 1:23 ; Eph 4 24 etc.) If we are born again unto eternal life, how could that new creation be even cabable of sin? If so, then Christ died in vain!! M. J. Head |
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16 | Why so many different interpretations? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144314 | ||
Hello Paster Glenn; I agree with you. That which is fathered by God is not capable of sin, otherwise it would seem that Christ died in vain! All commentaries that I can find on this verse and 1John 5;18 interpret it as "not continueing in sin". I also agree with that , but this verse is stating something far deeper than that. Why do you think that almost all bible scolars avoid saying that the verses teach that the new born one is incapable of sin? Are they afraid of being accused of teaching sinless perfection? I came to understand this doctrine some years ago and it was a very liberating thing to understand. It relieved me of guilt and confusion about sin in my life. This along with Rom. 7 is a very vital but very neglected teaching in the church today. M. J. Head |
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17 | Is the "new man" sinless? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144301 | ||
This verse along with several others(1 Pet. 1:23; Eph 4:24, 2:10) and others seem to indicate that the "New Man" is a new creation born of God. If this is so , then , my question is, how could that which is born of God be even capable of sin? I am not advocating sinless perfection. 1 John 1 establishes the falsehood of that. |
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