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1 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | HeirofGod | 186747 | ||
Please refer to the response I gave yesterday. (Starting with "Thank you for your words...") I must repeat this though, you are not going to sway me. I have quoted scripture from the time I started writing responses to this. We need to quit "arguing" about scripture and get a revelation about them. Have you ever tried to commit suicide? I have!!! I know what it means to repent, I also know the definition. I have been saved a long time my friend. We are sitting here debating about something that is the least bit important at this stage in the time table. Saving souls is what's important now, not what all our opinions are. I use Judas because he is New Testament which is what most people use now to base thier points. I know about Sampson, because we've been there before.(Earlier in this discussion). Let's also, on this point, agree to disagree. You can't move me from where I am, because I have felt what suicidal people feel. I can't move you from where you are. There are alot of things that I've written on this forum that I wish I hadn't been so zealous when I wrote them because they where in err. God has shown me alot about myself since then. People say experience is the best teacher. Unless you've been there you can only talk about it. I know. Sorry I can't come to a better conclusion for you to understand what I mean. Let's stop arguing on here and start edifying people. All of us are saved right? | ||||||
2 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | HeirofGod | 186681 | ||
Thank you for your words of comfort but I can't let go of what God revealed to me was right. We have all put our opinions in and we must say that we are going to agree to disagree. I have responded to this three times today. Most of us that are talking about this have never been at the point of suicide or tried. Well I have and i know what i'm talking about. Suicide involves pride and that is against God. Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. This will be the last reply to this. Love in Christ, HeirofGod |
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3 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | HeirofGod | 186678 | ||
If you can only recognize scripture when it says this book and this verse then you have a problem. You might want to study to show yourself approved a workman unto God, before you analyze what I've written. I don't work in theology, i work by the Holy Ghost. Theology is what's wrong here now. If I hadn't have gotten a reply to this today, I wouldn't have responded. But, I did, and I can't just let people go to hell thinking they were right about something that the Bible says is wrong. Don't attack me. STUDY!!! If Judas went to hell for suicide (not for betraying Jesus, because they all did that) then everyone else who does it will. No repentance after that. If you get upset everytime someone doesn't agree with you then that's a sin also. My understanding of this site was for people to get questions about scripture answered. It has been perverted when we started debating about scripture. Do this for yourself. If you really want to know fast and pray and ask God to reveal the answer to you. The Holy Ghost will guide you into all truth. | ||||||
4 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | HeirofGod | 186664 | ||
Forgive me for my lack of revelation. I was just saved then and zealous. Now! Repentance whipes your slate clean. The bible says that if we confess with our mouths the lord Jesus and believe in our hearts that God has raised him from the dead that we are saved. Repentance does not mean go through and remember every sin and say i'm sorry. Repentance is a point where you know you have practiced sin and turn away from it knowing that you need Jesus for that. Confession is after repentance and is for the believer that has committed a sin. Not practice sin. Suicide is wrong and brings about judgement. I do not believe that a believer can commit suicide. (if you do your not believing anymore) I'm not talking about saying I believe in Jesus. I'm talking about a person who lives the life everyday. (God knows) He told us that he has not given us the spirit of fear but of power, love, and a sound mind. People who commit suicide have let go of all those things and have therefore come out of the arch of safety. When your mind is gone astray you have left yourself open for the enemy. The mind is the battlefield and that is where people who do that loose the battle. Being blessed sometimes is just Gods way of saying I know you still need to see where I am and what I think of you. (Grace and Mercy) Yes God knows everything that we need but we have to ask for salvation and confess when we have done wrong. You need life for that and dead people don't have it. God doesn't just forgive you, if that was the case why did you get saved and start living right in the first place? This is where people who live raggedy lives mess it up for the people who are watching us. They think they can get away with whatever and God will just let it go, because he really doen't want to send people to hell. But!!! He doesn't send you. You send yourself. Grace is the Age we are living in. Longsuffering from God. We are saved by grace but you have to look at Acts 2. God would not say repent and be baptised if you didn't really have to do it. What is the blood for if remission of sins is just because of Grace. Sorry I can't go with you on that. | ||||||
5 | Prosperity and Deut. 28? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 16432 | ||
Look at "Us". Christians, we can't agree on anything except that there is a God. I just left an AOL message board about nostradomus, and there were a lot of unsaved people here. I didn't interact, I just watched. We (Christians) continue to argue about things within our body and the people outside continue to see just how weak we've become. The body of Christ. Acting like we really don't know who we serve, arguing with the people we are trying to save. That's why I didn't want to continue talking about prosperity-there's a bigger picture. Yes, I still believe in prosperity, the body of Christ is going to need it when people come to us hurting. We see it now that all these families have lost someone in New York. We are the ground breakers, we are the ones who will buy homes for homeless families, we are the ones who will give transportation to families who are new at working for God and still struggling to get to their natural jobs. We can't be lowly and poor to do this. HE became poor that we might become rich. Not just material. We argue about that but we can't agree to set denominations aside to save souls-The main objective. Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost. There are still some lost people out there-but we fight within the body. Satan is winning in deceiving people to believe there is no God, but he also tells them that he doesn't exist either. THey would rather believe that he exists than believe that God does. BUT WE DISAGREE ABOUT PROSPERITY!!! IT's not the time for them to see us the way we are. Understand something brother Moran, I do believe in teaching our own the oracles of God and do believe there are things that should continually be discussed within the body of Christ prosperity and faith is among them. God would not have made it the subject of so many passages if it were not true. We are against so many of our own. "Those Word of Faith preachers". These preachers have come against the spirit of religion in this world and taught people how to call those things which be not as though they were. Jesus told us to speak to the mountain and it will move. Having faith will make it move, not hoping really hard. What comes out of your mouth determines alot in your life. What you do determines how God deals with you. I thank you Tim for not attacking me throughout this discussion, but I think alot of people misunderstood my confidence in the word for greediness; for that I am sorry. I don't apologize for what I know is right, Just like we don't apologize to an atheist for believing in God. These (atheists, wiccan, satanists, etc.) are the ones we need to be seeking to save. One person wrote on one of these posts that I seemed to be trying to do a Big thing for God, when he would accept small things, or something like that. Well yes I am trying to do a big thing for God, saving souls. The biggest thing. This is the greater work that Jesus was talking about. My Global Ministry that I talk about-that's a work that God wants of me-I don't like to travel and have never been over seas, this is not something I would pick for myself. However, I will do it when God is ready for me to go. We need to get into a mode now. He is coming back and it is sooner than we think. How many people do you think we unsaved in those buildings, WTC1 and 2, Pentagon, and the planes? Whose fault do you think it is? It's ours Christians. We are to scared to witness no matter what the cost and this country was built on the same principles we teach now. Let's wake up. Love in Christ-Evangelist Kimberly Jones (I'm not afraid of this position anymore) |
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6 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 14895 | ||
No, I am not just applying it to money. I have been trying to tell you all this for some time. Anything you sow, that's what you will reap. I teach faith also. My Pastor teaches faith. If you are not teaching faith then I see where the misunderstanding is. I know sound doctrine-and the whole Chritian belief is faith. If you don't have faith you can't even believe enough to get saved, that's why he gives us "the" measure. Then He knows if you don't have it you can't please him. He was pleased with Abraham because of his faith, He blesses us because of our faith in him to trust him. I am not just talking about money here Tim. Maybe that's why people are misunderstanding me. | ||||||
7 | Prosperity and Deut. 28? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 14889 | ||
Remember I wrote that she quoted the scripture "a faithful man shall abound in blessing". That's the one I meant. I base my belief on scripture and with the experience that came when I applied the scripture to my everyday life. I don't car if I ever get a million dollars. But I do care if I move up in God. Yes, for my current situation I was happy having a roof over my head, but that doesn't mean that I can't want to do better. If we are just happy being saved, no one will ever go out and get other people saved. In the King James it says "let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee". Paul was saying not to try and take what others have. The word covet means to lust for what someone else has until you will do anything to get it (paraphrase). If you love money too much, you'll steal to get it. If you admire your friends wife to much, you'll commit adultry with her. Well that's not the situation I'm in. I don't live like a saint of God. I moved there before I got saved so it was fitting for who I was. Now it is not fitting for who I am so God is changing it. I don't have a 2001 car, but I have one. I would love to have a 2001 car but that's not what I need right now. IT's a 93 with alot of problems but it gets me to work, church, and home everyday. I didn't have a car when I first got saved and carrying a 2 month old baby around in the snow was not going to get it. I went to school on the city bus for a year, then God provided what we needed after I proved faithful enough to have it. I have lived in the same place for 3 years and God is finally saying they can handle something more now. If I didn't want to move, I would not accept his blessing. If your church only had 20 people who would really praise the Lord with everything they had and 100 others who barely stood up would you be content that you had 120 members? I wouldn't. There are somethings as you said that are being used the wrong way. BY the way God showed me about Jeremiah, It was great finding out what was going on. Just as when you find out that we are not supposed to be poor. IF the world can be rich and we walk around with rags and straw hats on, what does that say about God? A sinner would never want to leave his possesions to serve a God that lets his people Go around in rags. I get tired of fighting the smoke from a joint just to make it into my front door, or the gangs of drunken people out on my front porch. I've witnessed to those people and they didn't listen. But bless God when he moved those people out of the way, one of the girls who used to be with them started coming to church with us. We have to let the blessing of God show through us. He said we overcome by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony. My house is going to be a testimony unto God, that mans laws don't stop God. I get tired of borrowing money from some bank to get things I need. If God desires to give us things we need and things we desire why is it wrong for us to recieve them. The blessings of the Old Testament are for us just like the curses if we do wrong. Seed-time and harvest is a blessing. If you sow in time you will receive a harvest. If you need a new anointing in your church and your members don't seem to want to move up, sow praises unto God and either your people will praise with you or leave. If they leave, you didn't need them in the first place. I have to go now. IT's nice to have a calm discussion without being attacked. In Christ |
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8 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 14874 | ||
I am sorry but I don't agree. God is about to do a BIG THING and the whole Church is a part of it. As far as getting by-I don't want to just get by. God is a god of abundance, if his people are barely getting by and he has abundantly, what does this say about our God. My pastor knows that God has a greater work for our entire ministry especially his evangelists. I know I am going to have to travel, be it in the U.S. or over seas. I don't want to have to travel this is not something I would have chosen to do but I will because I love him and want to see his Kingdom grow. We can't do most anything without money these days. God knows it, that's why we have jobs to help pay our bills. We also know that one day we are going to have to leave our jobs when he needs us to go out and preach. I don't have 800 dollars lying around to get over seas. I don't have 100 dollars lying around to go to Florida if I had to. IF he needed me to go, it would have to come from some offering he provided. The reason you don't know what I mean is you are comfortable with what you are doing. Well I am not comfortable with my church being empty, with living in the projects, and living paycheck to paycheck and still barely paying my bills. I know God is a provider, but he's also a rewarder. I know what God wants me to do because I've asked him. You might be comfortable sitting on a pew on Sunday maybe just saying amen, but I'm not. I want to see people saved, healed, delivered, rededicated, and holy. The more seeds I sow into the Kingdom of God the more I will see ministries bearing this kind of fruit continue to do so. I live what I know about God, I am trying him for everything I know. These are the last days and God is doing things that you never knew him to do. I don't know what he's spoken to you, but I do know what he has said to me and every word has come true even when I wasn't sure it was him he showed me. All of the comments towards my motives are wrong and all of your comments about seed time and harvest are wrong. Have you not read the parable of the sower, or when Jesus talks about sowing and reaping in Luke 6:31-38. I don't give to people because I want something from them. I give to GOd because he said to. I expect a harvest because he said to in 38. No it does not say sow and reap here, but the bible doesn't say Rapture in it either but we believe it will happen. If you sow judgement, people will judge you (you'll reap judgement). Give and it shall be given unto you. If I give people with no food some groceries or just a meal, then when I need the same God will repay me. He gives the increase not man. All I've been trying to tell the one person who actually asked the question is to Believe God for anything. Prosperity is true for those who have faith that God will prosper them. Divine healing is true for those who have faith that God will heal them. This is the last time I am going to answer on this subject because with your own beliefs in the way God can't open your eyes to the truth. Try him. I am moving up because I know who I am in God, I can't witness to how he provides and my project apartment is leaking, and the tiles are broken, and the paint is peeling, and the manager has not come to fix it. God is not going to let me live like that. I sowed so much time into helping other saints move into new houses, God is blessing me with a home through Habitat for Humanity. HE said he was going to furnish it because it was going to be a testimony for him and not something we have done. HFH has not said you've got the house, but we believe God because he spoke it. My husband sowed so much time in helping our pastor with remodeling the church that he has volunteered to help us build our home. We only have 5 faithfull members who are adults. The ministry is already 2 years old but God said he was going to fill up the church. We are all blessed. The power of God moves and the anointing is sweet. I love what God is doing in my life. HE has brought me from a horrible death, to a brand new holy ghost power filled life full of grace and peace. He's doing a quick work in me and my husband and our growth in the things of God require that we do more, come up higher. You can't fault us for doing what he says to. He moves on us to give and we do. I don't have a monthly pledge I give to ministries yet. I pay my tithes and offerings and we are blessed. The word says to much is given, much is required. He is requiring more out of our lives because he has given so much to us. Especially in anointing. I hope you will ask God for yourself if I am right about Seed-time and harvest. It's been with us since the beginning. Look at what he told Noah after the waters left from the Earth in Gen. 8:22. Planting and harvesting is a constant. Be it fruit or vegetables, the Word, or money. We need all three of these things naturally to survive. Love in Christ Kimberly |
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9 | Do you want riches of Smyrna or Laodecia | Matthew | HeirofGod | 14768 | ||
I want the riches of God that were promised to me. The Good treasure he said he would give. Look I don't give because I know i'll get it back, even though that makes it more comfortable to know God will provide for you, but I give because he says to. HE tells me where to give and I do it. If you are not giving then that's why you are not getting. Don't down me because I'm faithful. You didn't read. Jesus is telling them that what you sow you are going to reap. If you judge people you will be judged, If you forgive you will be forgiven, IF you give it shall be given. Read all of the 38 verse. After that verse he goes into a parable. 39-42 is about judging. Give and Judge are to different things. | ||||||
10 | Prosperity and Deut. 28? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 14767 | ||
He was talking to Israel, but when you become a child of God you become as one of the children of Israel. The conditions were to heed to the commandments that God gave and to hearken unto his voice. Yes they are for us today. You have put GOd in some kind of a box. I didn't say that he had to bless us, but he does have to honor his word or it would not be true. You are still trying your best to put the "Word of Faith" doctrine and seed-time and harvest to a test that has already been passed. I think the real problem with the Word of Faith doctrine is the messengers, not the Word. But, you fail to realize that the Word of Faith is God's doctrine and not man's. God spoke and things happened according to his own faith-he also told us that we should call those things which be not as though they were, because he did. It is also written that without faith it is impossible to please him. If you don't have the faith to believe in seed time and harvest then don't go to the grocery store to buy vegetables. They won't be there. Don't pay tithes any more because it's not building your ministry and the devourer is not being rebuked. If you don't plant a seed in good ground then you won't get a harvest. Come on Tim, you can't tell me that after all these years of pastoring you haven't come across the words seed time and harvest or where Paul talks about the importance of giving. I give to the church because I'm glad to GOd's happy with it and I'm happy with it. I also expect to be blessed by what he does. If he will curse you for not titheing and giving offerings he will bless you for being obediant. What a man sows that he shall also reap. If you sow kindness you'll get kindness, if you sow hatred you get hatred. Just like cause and effect. If you adhere to all he says to do, he'll open his good treasure unto you, and you shall lend and not borrow. The world should be coming to us for things and not us going to them. We should be able to fund the tent revival or camp meeting with tithes and offerings not with bake sales and car washes. I don't know what you believe, but It is working in my life. God is the only one who can give an increase, so I have not misapplied any of his principles in my life. Brother I would hope that trying so much to explain why God does things instead of receiving the outcome will stop. I am going to receive all he has for me, and it's not just material. You and others can call me greedy, money hungry or whatever-I know what the word says and I'm standing on it. I am the rightousness of God and if he said I was his heir and a joint heir with his son, I have everything he has. When do we get an inheritance? Usually when a person dies right. Well Jesus already died the time for us to prosper is here and I'm accepting it. I am not going to continue to be happy in my current situation. This is just like saying if you live in a steel shed be glad it's not raining on your head. If you get food stamps be glad you have something to eat. Well some of us aren't happy in the system. We depend on the system instead of God well he is my provider. I provide with my seed whatever he wants me to do with it and he said I will get a harvest. Seeds don't just continue to grow. At some point you have to gather the crop. If you don't understand why I believe ask God to show you a ministry to plant a seed into. Not just money whatever kind of seed. Then wait on your harvest, but don't stop serving. A faithful man shall abound in blessing. I believe this because I've seen it happen. I learned this scripture while someone was blessing me for being faithful. While I was thanking them for the kindness and thanking God they quoted this scripture. It's all true. Please understand that what you say or what Benny Hinn says or what Joyce Meyer or President Bush says will not change my mind. Not because I heard it on some TV show but becasue it has been revealed in my life. "No body" can tell me that I didn't experience it. | ||||||
11 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 14732 | ||
That is the focus Norrie. The focus is to be able to keep building the Kingdom of God naturally(with souls) and financially with tithes and offerings. Don't get me wrong, I Love God not because he continues to give me a harvest but because he saved me from a lustful and religious spirit. He changed me forever. Not only do I not want to go back, I've tried and I can't. He's holding on to me and he's not going to let me go. Niether will I let him go. I trust his word not because some guy on TV says try it, I tried it because it had worked for other people in my church. Giving to ministries who are bearing fruit makes me happy. Getting a harvest makes me happy. Being saved makes me estatic! I don't think that all TV ministries have lost the focus. I think they know the importance of having the funds to do what needs to be done. Right now my church is very small, but the power of God is moving so immenantly.We know that souls are going to come in, because he spoke it himself. When they do we are going to need a bigger church (It's really small now). That's going to take money. We have been planting seeds in all types of good ministries from all over the states, some we fellowship with. When the time comes where we need a new church God will honor our seed and will provide. We have to stay focused on Jesus because he gives the increase. That's what seed time and harvest is all about. God honoring your obediance and blessing you. I think that's great. It shows that God knows you are being faithful. Thank you for seeing my point. Kimberly |
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12 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 14658 | ||
Back up a minute, I was trying to show you that God wants us to expect a harvest after planting a seed. Every thing works in seed-time and harvest. It's just like cause and effect. If you plant a seed in good ground (whatever kind of seed) you will receive the same kind of harvest. IF you plant kindness you will reap kindness, if you plant corn you will expect a corn crop-but not the next day. Only God is that fast in rewarding if he so chooses. That's all I've been trying to say during this whole discussion is that God works on a seed time and harvest table. If your church needed to build a daycare center, what would they do. God says we will lend and not borrow. Church revenue is supposed to come from tithes and offerings-a seed is an offering. If you give to God he will give you more to give. This is how everything works. We need money to live in this world, right. That's why we get jobs. We pay tithes to keep the curse off of us and because we Love God. THis is a requirment. Giving is also a requirement, but he said it shall be given unto you pressed down shaken together and running over. HE also said that what a man sows that he shall also reap. So if you sow money you will get money, If you so hatred you will get hatred. I think we all need to study seed-time and harvest it is mentioned in scripture. IF you want to know where, I will find it and tell you. In Christ, Kimberly |
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13 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 14529 | ||
Again, you are not reading what I'm writing with the mind that you are going to listen to my point. You just wrote something that I said was my whole reason for giving. I was prompted by the Holy Spirit to give to the Glory of God. But since you said we don't give to get, let's see here. When you give a Christmas present don't you expect to recieve something. You can't say you don't because everybody likes to get gifts. We received the gift of salvation because God said we could have it, it was for us. We are the righteousness of God (saints), we need to start acting like it. Back to giving and getting. The reason most people don't get anything is because after they give they don't expect God to reward them. God said he was a rewarder of those who dilligently seek him. The first part of the scripture says that whoever comes to God must believe that he is. Now if he is God and he is a rewarder, why is it wrong for his children to be rewarded for doing something he told them to do. Plant seeds in good ground. I would not plant a seed in a ministry that is not bringing forth good fruit. Plus I expect to be rewarded for keeping the commandment. If you gave a family a house full of groceries because God told you to but that was your last hundred dollars, you did it but you were not sure what God was doing. Wouldn't you expect God to reward you for that. Well I expect God to reward me for keeping his Kingdom moving. Keeping his TV shows on the air, keeping local ministries from going under while trying to get kids off the street. This is where the saints of God come in. Yes he can make a sinner give his money to the Church, but he shouldn't have to. We should be giving the Church so much that they don't have to borrow anything. I wish you all understood, since you don't I am not going to further this discussion when it is an attack on my belief and on scripture. I'M STILL STANDING on the TRUTH. With Love and Peace, Kimberly Jones |
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14 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 13881 | ||
I think alot of people are misunderstanding me. The only way to get a harvest in any thing is to plant a seed. I didn't say that it had to be in a TV ministry. If I planted a seed in any of your ministries, I would get a harvest. If I planted any amount of money I would get a monetary harvest. If I planted souls into your ministry(by sending sinners into your church) I would reap winning more souls. The bible says that if you give it will be given unto you good measure pressed down shaken together and running over. The prosperity "doctrine" as everyone is calling it is just the fact that God's children will not be poor. NOt saying that you will be falling over rich (like Donald Trump), but that you will have enough for you to take care of your family and enough to give to others. If you are walking or taking the bus everyday but you are able to drive. Especially if you are a "King's kid", prosperity says that the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. Meaning that The enemy has taken from the Saints of God things like peace, love, salvation for our families, jobs, homes, and cars. This means that a sinner is out there driving a car that God meant for you to have you just need to recieve it. A sinner is out there living in your house, just recieve it. I'm not saying that it's going to be a thirty thousand dollar car, I'm just saying that if you don't have one, that's a need. These days you almost need a car to get around, especially if you have children. The Bible also says if you seed the Kingdom of God first all other things will be added. Your basic needs are met, but if you continue to yeild to God to fulfill your purpose then God will add all other things you want and need to you. Deu. 28 tells us all the blessings we get by being children of God. I told somebody else on here that I am not being money hungry and I'm not trying to be rich, All I want is what God has promised me. HE has promised it to all of us who abide by his laws. Prosperity is a gift of God to his people and a testimony to him. Everybody that's telling me to search the scriptures for myself must not be reading what i'm writing. I am not going by what TV preachers are telling me because to be honest I have only heard one of them preach prosperity and that's Creflo Dollar. I gave to TBN because I was prompted by the Holy Spirit. Have you ever given an offering to a church you visited? Were you ever blessed by a message you saw on TV? If so isn't that the same thing as what I did? I know some of you out there probably have given to feed the children, or the christian childrens fund or something like that. I have too. Having faithn that the money I send will help to the Glory of God. I don't do anything for me. I want to help further the Kingdom, so I do whatever is necessary. Not only to TV, but at my home church and surrounding churches. I hope all of you wake up and see what I'm saying is true not because somebody on TV said it but because IT IS SCRIPTURE. Now Again, since we are not going to agree on this subject and nobody is getting my point and have started saying my heart is in the wrong place then let's stop talking about it. | ||||||
15 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 13864 | ||
NO it doesn't show alot about me. It shows that you don't believe God. I don't care about having alot of Money, but if God has promised it why not obtain it. He said he would make us the head and not the tail, lenders and not the borrowers. I am tired of telling people God will supply all of my needs and God promised to make my way prosperous and I'm in debt. This is not God's will for our lives. TV ministry is not what I want to do. But God told me and my husband that we would have a Global ministry, my heart is in saving souls not traveling around the world, although this is my purpose. I am sorry that you think I'm money hungry, but I'm not. If you believed the Word of God they way I believe it, you would accept what he is trying to give. I have lived the high life and I was alone, God brought me all the way back down to nothing to get me saved and now I'm on my way back up the right way. Don't fault me for wanting every kind of blessing that God wants to give me. Believe me I want more from God than his monetary riches. I want my mother and father to be saved, my whole family. In our immediate families (my husbands mother and sister, and my mother and father) my husband and I and my sister are the only ones who are saved. They go to church, they believe in God but they are not believers as we are. I want to be able to bless GOd with the music of my hands, but I can't remember how to play the piano. I want to be able to walk in all the faith of God. I want to have all the peace of God. These things I'm learning to have as well as prosperity. I have not completely obtained any of it. So please don't judge me from what I write in a note. You don't know me, but God does, and since I know he promised me what I'm looking for what you believe dosen't matter. Don't take this the wrong way your input is appreciated but your accusations are not. Until now I have enjoyed discussing healing and prosperity with you all. I don't enjoy being judged. Again, since we won't agree, let's not continue to discuss it. | ||||||
16 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 13820 | ||
I live on less than twenty thousand and even less than 15, but you all are not thinking of what God says. YOu are not giving them your 10 dollars, you are giving it to God. Now if they gave you 10 dollars are you so sure you would use it for the Glory of God? Yes and you can also say the same for them. But, what if they were preaching this to rooms full of people every night, like my pastor. And then they go home to a one room apartment for two hundred a month and go to a 9 to 5 everyday, How would you feel about them then. You'd say they were crazy. Well then I'm crazy. When you see me on TV or however God is going to promote my Global ministry as he said. I will tell you then on Global TV I made it now GO and GET IT. Don't analyze things away. Just recieve them as God wants to give them to you. Now read what I told EdB. Love in Christ. | ||||||
17 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 13818 | ||
You are still missing my point. You are focusing on the fact that I sent them the 25.00 and got an increase. What I'm telling you is since it's worked for me before TBN. It works after TBN. You all have been so caught up in why don't they send us and why don't these TV prachers do this. Well Why don't you do something about your faith and read your Bible. I know what the word says. God is not slack concerning his promises. I also read what Tim wrote about context of scripture, I agreed with him about Jeremiah, but this I cannot go along with. If 3John2 is not a promise to us then Romans 8:28 is not either. Every promise GOd gave to his elect applies to us when we become the children of God. Look I am sorry that you all don't believe in seed-time and harvest but it has worked for me every single time I've applied it which is often. It hasn't been me sending a TV preacher some money because that has only happend the once. But I give in my ministry and to local ministries all the time. God gives an increase every time. It may not be in money but it is an increase. Get off of TV preachers becasue if it weren't for those TV preachers most of the world would not be saved. Now for the healing, These men are not claiming to be able to heal. God through them are healing these people. As far as arms and legs growing out, I haven't seen it, but some of the evangelists in my church have seen it at thier hands. I have seen people who are deaf recieve their hearing and demons cast out. The Bible says that the Holy spirit has given us an unction and we know all things. When I read the Bible I read it as all truth and from God. Not only have I recieved Christ into my life I have recieved the infilling of the Holy Ghost and I know that is scripture just like I know seed-time and harvest is scripture. NOw you need to seek God and have the Holy Spirit show you the truth. I digress. It's not because of TV that I believe, because I didn't have Cable when I learned, It's because of my own experience and the teaching in the BIBLE that I believe. Like I've said for other things, this has nothing to do with saving souls, our main objective. But may I ask you this, Are you a Child of The King? If you are, you know that the children of Kings are Princesses and Princes and they are rich, in abundance, wealthy, not lacking. Thus will I be as a Child of The King of Kings. Since we will not agree on this let's not talk about it. Love in Christ |
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18 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 13709 | ||
I don't believe because of them, I believe God. The word says he will heal all of our diseases. This is a promise to the believer not the sinner. Since when is healing an entertainment. Instead of being skeptical about the man believe the power of God. My trust is not in what TBN can do, even though they have spread the Gospel of Jesus around the world, but what about what God's word says. We go on so much about who's trying to scam us and not enough about what GOD told us to do. Hospitals were made for the sick right? Jesus told us in Mark 16:17 to lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Some people call this charasmatic, but Jesus did it. Aren't we supposed to Mark the Perfect Man. This is what we are all striving for. Have you ever been to Haiti? How do you know that after they recieved Jesus they didn't put these practices into action and become wealthy. We think being wealthy is a sin. He said the love of money is the root of all evil. By the way, television only shows one part of the people in these countries. Do you know how many rich countires are in Africa? Many of the people come to America to go to school and it just so happens that some of them come to a school I went to in TN. Some people end up teaching at the university. Then they leave because they are unhappy in our country. They are rich there and almost poor here. Just like if you have a thousand dollars here, that's just a months wages here, go to China or Mexico and your rich. The point is Man didn't invent these practices, it didn't start with Benny Hinn and Rod Parsely and Kenneth Copeland. It started with Jesus. He was a carpenter on earth but he created all this. We live on his creation. We don't have to be poor. The diciples were not poor. They had everything they needed and enough to give to someone else in need. That's what prosperity is all about, not about sitting pretty off lies, signs and wonders. Just being in abundance. It's working for me. My pastor just bought a house, not with the churches money but with a loan from a company. He preaches prosperity and faith and healing. There is no way he could by a house with money from the church because there are only 5 members as of right now and that's not nearly enough to say he would steal from. He was living in an apartment with his wife and 3 of her eight kids for almost eight years. He works a full time job driving the city bus. I work a full time job as a medical secretary. One of the other ministers is working a full time job and going to school and she has eight children with 5 at home. We are the only ones working. His pockets aren't fat but he is prospering. As we all are prospering. Something is happening for all of us. Not because we are just looking for a handout, but because we are faithful even though the church doesn't seem like it's going to fill up, we believe God's promises and his statutes. We keep them. If it wasn't for God's word and his acts in MY LIFE, I could not have stuck with him this long and still kept on strong. It's not because of TBN or the Churh Channel, or INSP. It's because of GOD. When I first got saved. I Couldn't even see these stations because I didn't have Cable, I didn't even know who these people were. So I could not build my belief on what they taught. You would benefit from believing God more and watching man and his faults less. I know this reads like anger but it's not, I'm writing this in love so you will understand my faith is not in Benny Hinn or Paul Crouch it's in God. |
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19 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 13705 | ||
Man, I was really going forth about the how GOd blesses and the whole thing is gone ARRRGh. I really want you to dig in the word to find out about healing and seed-time and harvest. I'll try to retype all that again antoher time. Love in Christ, Kimberly Jones |
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20 | Divine Healing, True or False? | Matthew | HeirofGod | 13596 | ||
I don't know if your question has ever been answered but I'd like to give the scriptures I use when I'm praying for divine healing for myself and when laying hands. Is. 53:5 tells us that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and healings. Psalm 103:1-3 there is another scripture in psalms that says I am the Lord God that healeth thee, but I just don't know where. Mark 16:17,18 tells us about laying hands on the sick. I hope these scriptures help you with divine healing. NOw about prosperity, God wants all of his children to live prosperous. Is God poor, so why should we be. 3John:2 explains that as our souls prosper we shall prosper. Every new level we go to in God we recieve a blessing matching it.Romans 8:16-17 tells us who we are in God, we are Heirs of whatever he promised Christ-which is the Earth. The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof...Ps24:1. Everything belongs to the lord. Ps.37:4, Deu.28:1-6,Mal.3:10-12 Deu. 29:9, Phi.4:19, Mark 4:1-20. All these scriptures tell a different side to prosperity. As far as not having enough faith to be healed there is nothing wrong with not having enough faith for healing. Jesus knows that some of us don't have that kind of faith, there were some when he was here. It happens it happened to me and my husband. Prosperity also is a promise of God in Malachi he said if you pay your tithes and offerings he will open up the windows of heaven and pour you out a blessing and rebuke the devourer. If you need more study the seed-time and harvest fact in the scripture. This is how most all Christian prosperity begins. Plant a seed in good ground (meaning plant a monetary seed in a good ministry) and you will recieve 30, 60, or 100 fold. Quick testimony and then i'll let you go, Last year I was out of a job my husband was working but not enough to really pay the bills. We were watching TBN one night during thier Praise-A-Thon and R.W. Shambach asked for a faith seed. We didn't have the money to send but we were going to try to get it. Soon after that I got a job and with my first paycheck I sent 25.00. A couple of months later we really needed some money and it was going to be another week before we got paid my husband was in school at the time and we thought his refund check from them would come that day. It didn't and we were wondering what we were going to do. We then went home and opened our mailbox and in it was a letter from my cousin-I talked to her earlier that month and she told me she needed my address to seed me some pictures of her newborn. When I looked inside the envelope there was a money order in it. At first I thought it said 25.00 but when I looked again it said 250.00. We rejoiced that Friday afternoon because that was the first hundredfold blessing we had ever gotten. Seed-time and harvest works in more ways than one. Believe it! It's real! Love in Christ, Kimberly Jones |
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