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1 | What Cities are Refered to in Jer. 4:26? | Genesis | DocSpock | 8403 | ||
Friends, I thank you for your responses to my recent post. However, my position remains the same. I still read the above URL as "...studybible...", not "...studyfalseteacher...". There are many available forums where people may post their nominations for the "false prophet" awards. (Excuse my foolishness, but a little humour helps when writing on a subject which I find rather depressing.) As to my position on the individual, you will note if you study my posts that I have not actually stated any personal views regarding himself or his teaching. My thoughts here are attached to principles, not people. I would feel the same way for others besides him. It is with great reluctance that I submit my last post to this forum. This is not as a direct consequence to any of the polite responses to my recent post - I had the inward witness a couple of days back, and received confirmation today. [Please don't suppose I am suggesting folks should cease contributing to this forum.] I should very much like to continue posting here on various topics, since there is potential for some good discussion, where we can steer clear of individuals, but no longer feel at ease in doing so. Thank you EdB, Hank, Nolan Keck, Morant61, Mark Sutton, and any others, for polite response to posts I have contributed to this forum. God bless folks. :-) |
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2 | What Cities are Refered to in Jer. 4:26? | Genesis | DocSpock | 8371 | ||
This Bible study forum is certainly the product of many hours of thought and hard work, and has great potential. However, I feel compelled to voice my concerns regarding what I have seen so far. I have only just registered, and already have been exposed to numerous posts (with no scriptural references) denouncing well-known teachers - namely Benny Hinn. If you will refer to the thred on Jer 4:26, you will see, as an example, how various nodes leave the scripture almost entirely and begin a discussion and attack on Benny Hinn's credibility as a teacher, a minister - even accusing him of constant lying. It is ever so sad that people will use a forum in this reprehensible fashion, and the Bible warns us numerous times against judging and attacking our brothers. (Mat 7:1,2 ; Luke 6:37 ; Romans 14:4,10 ; I Cor 4:5 ; James 4:11,12) It is one thing to consider a teaching (and at the most referencing the author or originator) and present a scriptural response for why we may believe it to be in error, it is another thing altogether when we start pointing judgemental fingers and naming names. Even if some believe this behaviour exhibited by many online forums, such as websites and chatrooms, to be Christian and righteous, such material is inappropriate for this forum. Surely it is designed for comments and notes on scriptures and Bible topics, and when a node on Jer 4:23 descends into a list of why an individual believes Benny Hinn, or any other preacher, to be a false prophet, somewhere down the line people have lost their way! This is not intended as a harsh attack on the forum, its esteemed creators, or its enthusiastic contributors, but an attempt to bring into the light a problem which needs to be addressed, whilst this forum is still in its infancy. I submit this post with respect to all parties. Thank you for your time and attention. God bless. |
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3 | Time lapse between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:3. | Gen 1:2 | DocSpock | 8258 | ||
So far, I see no scriptural objections, only (you'll forgive me) noises of disapproval. You will observe from my note - if that's what you are commenting on - that 6 literal days are not refuted. The only idea being presented is that rock and water existed in a planetary mass before these 6 days, and were created at an earlier time. Following this view, these six days of re-creation have not been converted into 'six periods of time'. Furthermore, this does not necessarily lend any credibility to carbon dating, since we have no knowledge of what vestiges of the old world, if any, remain, or how long the “gap” was. It is at this point we enter into real speculation. Whatever else you may have read, I do not feel that my comments, at any rate, are “designed to explain the unexplainable mysteries of God's creation”, neither do they deviate from the “plain language” of the Bible – the OT is Hebrew, and so it’s hardly surprising that our English translations can obscure occasionally the meaning, or the harmony between several corresponding scriptures, namely Gen 1:2, Isaiah 45:18, Jer 4:23. Anyhow, these notes have been offered as thoughts, not as didactic doctrine. I have my own queries too, but I think we would do better to express our doubts through scripture. These are my last comments on this topic, and I respectfully submit them to this forum. God bless. |
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4 | Is there a time span between Gen 1:1,1:2 | Is 45:18 | DocSpock | 8213 | ||
I've written a note on Gen 1:2 which might help you a little, though Chris has given a very good response already. | ||||||
5 | Time lapse between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:3. | Gen 1:2 | DocSpock | 8212 | ||
Time lapse between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:3. I’d like to offer here some extracts from my Bible notes: Gen 1:2 “The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep...,” but God does not create things in darkness, without form and void: 1. tohu va' bohu Isaiah tells us “God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain [without form]...” (Isaiah 45:18 KJV). The word translated 'vain' is that Hebrew word tohu, and it means formlessness, confusion, unreality, emptiness etc. It is the same word used in Genesis 1:2, translated “without form” (KJV). The words translated without form and void are the rhyming words tohu va' bohu. (In some parts of the world, people use (or have used) this phrase to describe any scene of utter chaos, pandemonium or disorder – even an untidy bedroom!) Fallen nature tends towards disorder (the second law of thermodynamics), but God is not a God of disorder (I Cor 14:33). His work is perfect (Deut 32:4). His work is glorious (Psalm 111:3). When God creates, he does so in magnificent beauty. He is not an evolutionist – he does not begin a creation in a state of gross chaos, but every moment or grade of his creative work is, in itself, something splendid and majestic. If there is any chaos, if there is anything ugly, rest assured the fault lies with another. But thank God; he takes the formless, the ugly, the useless and the impotent, and transforms it beyond recognition into something beautiful. 2. was, or became “And the earth was [or became] without form, and void”. The Hebrew word translated “was” may also be rendered “became”. A good lexicon will include possible renderings such as “come to pass”, “happen”, “take place”, “to come about”, among others. Maybe countless billions of years lie between verses one and two of Genesis 1. This begs the question, what happened during this period of time? Many believe there was a star wars; a great battle in the heavens for the supremacy of the cosmos between Lucifer and Elohim, in which a third (Rev 12:4) of the heavenly hosts raged against their brethren in civil war. Suffice it to say, Lucifer, stripped of his office and title, expelled from the heavens, defeated and humiliated, fell like lightning to the earth (Luke 10:18) with all his cronies. 3. Star wars and desolation I suspect this destructive battle brought the earth into a state of chaos and confusion (tohu va' bohu), that necessitated its regeneration, rejuvenation, and refurbishment, as described in Genesis 1. This rhyming Hebrew phrase is also found in (Jeremiah 4:23), and in these verses further revelation on the earth's chaotic state of being is imparted. A. There was no light. (Jer 4:23) God removed His light (God is light, (I John 2:5) ) as well as the earth's natural light. Without the sun, the waters would have frozen quickly, encasing animals and vegetation alike in tombs of ice. B. The shaking (Jer 4:24) Mountains and hills trembled violently. Perhaps this is where the fault lines originated, since the earth in its initial state was whole. C. There was no apparent life. (Jer 4:25) There was no man - he had not yet been created - and not even birds were flying in the air. Without the sun, living creatures died. A cataclysmic event of gigantic proportions! D. Broken cities These were the remnants of cities destroyed in God's fierce and terrible anger. This, of course, begs another question. Who built them? Many bible scholars believe a pre-Adamic race was upon the earth, but that’s another topic… Genesis 1:2 ...and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. There was a great deal of water around, even before God began to speak. We know from Hebrews 11:3 that it is God’s Word which brings His creation into existence, but no words, as yet, have been spoken, in the Genesis account. The waters and the earth, which was now formless and void, were also created by God before His work in Genesis 1:3-27. 2 Peter 3:4-5 "by the word of GOD the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water" The earth was formed out of the water, according to this scripture, which is reflected in Genesis 1, but these same waters were the means by which “the world at that time was destroyed.” I do not believe this is referring to the flood of Noah, but the cataclysmic event I described briefly earlier on. - - - The so-called “Gap Theory” is by no means theologically bankrupt, and I do not believe that anyone who considers these things as distinct possibilities is stupid or a radical (!). Unfortunately, it’s fascinating but relatively unimportant topics like these which attracts much controversy and division. To coin a phrase: “take it or leave it”. I respectfully submit these views to the forum. |
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6 | Church leaders must be married? | 1 Tim 3:2 | DocSpock | 8201 | ||
Typing Correction: Apologies, the last line should read: However, that is not to say that there are no definite and obvious benefits from marriage for a church leader. |
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7 | Church leaders must be married? | 1 Tim 3:2 | DocSpock | 8200 | ||
The first thing I believe we should bear in mind, in considering points such as these, is that the gospel is the perfect law of "liberty" (James 1:25) and that the letter of the law kills, but the spirit gives life (2 Corinthians 3:6). Holding these truths in good conscience empowers us to rightly divide the Word of Truth without falling into legalism. I do not believe Paul is insisting on an "overseer" being married. Let us remember that this is the man who wrote: Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am [ie. unmarried]...But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I. (I Corinthians 7:7,8) In advising that an "overseer" be the husband of one wife, he is surely breaking away from Old Testament times, when women were viewed more as possessions of the household, and men might marry as many (like Solomon!) as they chose. I believe this is a define limitation as opposed to an ordinance to marry. However, that is not to say that there are on definite and obvious benefits from marriage for a church leader. I respectfully submit this post to the forum. |
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