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1 | One example of loosing salvation NT | Luke 8:13 | yampa78 | 88915 | ||
This is for everyone. Please pray for me! As some of you know from responding to my question a couple days ago, I am going through a period of intense doubt in my faith. For those of you who have never experienced doubt, let me tell you it's the scariest thing I've ever gone through in my whole life! I feel like I'm inching slowly toward a cliff of unbelief and once I go over the edge there's no return. It feels like the foundation of Christ that I've stood on most of my life is crumbling beneath my feet. I have been praying and reading my bible a lot lately hoping that it would reveal truth and put me at ease. The oposite is actually occuring. It is actually fueling my doubt because of all the ambiguity in the bible that can be interpreted in many different ways. I believe that there is absolute truth. Therefore one side of this salvation debate is right and the other is wrong (or both are wrong, but I won't go there yet.) If there is a God (which I never even questioned until 2 weeks ago), then he has given Christians the Holy Spirit to reveal truth in his word. How is it then that there can be disagreement on such a crutial issue? Wouldn't God reveal the truth to his people if his word is true? He also wouldn't let his people slip through the cracks, right? Well if you go to exchristian.org, you can read first hand stories about sincere Christians losing their faith by coming to an intelectual impass. I hope you all can give some Godly insight to help me out in this horrible time for me. Andrew |
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2 | Can true Christians lose their faith? | Bible general Archive 1 | yampa78 | 88595 | ||
Doug, Thank you for your response. As for your first point, my faith is not shaken so much by inconsistancies found by others but by the fact that they lost faith because of what they found. This makes me fear that I could be one of these people. There are two ways in which people "leave the faith." 1. People love the world. They revert back to sin and turn their backs on God. Their minds once again become clouded by sin and they move further from God. This is a selfesh choice that they make. The church often says that these people never knew the truth in the trush to begin with. 2. This form is much more disturbing, and we almost never hear the church speak of such people. These are the people who have devoted their lives to study and share God's word. Then they come to a point after much studying that their logic destroys their faith. They want to believe, but evidence they've come across no longer allows them to believe. What I am struggling with is, if God is real, how could he let these people go? If you go to the website exchristian.org you can read the stories of many people who lose faith. Some of the stories are from shallow people who never really understood Christianity in the first place, but others put knots in my stomach reading them because they really understood all that the Bible teaches and still lost faith. Yampa 78 |
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3 | Can true Christians lose their faith? | Bible general Archive 1 | yampa78 | 88593 | ||
As to the ability to lose ones salvation, I'm really not sure on the anwser. The Bible seems to have dozens of verses supporting both opinions. My problem with the idea of losing salvation is that it diminishes the atoning work of Christ. At what point is someone saved? And then at what point are they lost? After giving their life to Christ, how many sins do they need to commit to then be lost again? That brings up the question: is it our works or Christ's work that brings salvation? Then I also have a problem with the idea of election (once saved always saved). If this is the case, then Chist only died for some people. We therefore have no free will when it comes to salvation. That means some people were created just so God could send them to hell for eternal torment. Too many people today don't actually think about what they believe. They get so caught up in their jobs, hobbies, and relationships that they just believe whatever the church tells them because it sounds good and then go back to their lives without giving it any thought. It doesn't take much faith to be that kind of Christian. Real faith comes after we have struggled with a committed search for truth and find that human logic can not reason the existance God. Then a leap of faith is needed. Yampa 78 |
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4 | Casting lots | Acts 1:26 | yampa78 | 72773 | ||
If God is sovereign, which I believe he is, then he is ultimately in control of all outcomes. Therefore, I think that this is a legitimate way of determining God's will in certain circumstances. However, God's moral will should always be looked at and prayed about first when any decision is to be made. Casting lots is unnecessary and foolish when it is obvious that one decision is glorifying to God and the other is not. eg.- flipping a coin to decide whether you should cheat on your wife or not. That's obviously an extreme example, but I hope you get my point. This is my opinion based on what I have read and what I have been taught. If anyone disagrees with me, and has scripture to back it up, please share that information. |
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