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|1||How could God send anyone to hell ?||John||tgc||141685|
|Doc, you have no need to aplogize for anything, you have simplely stated your position from an understanding of scripture which is different than he way I understand it. I only wish to understand your point of view as I have much respect for it.
In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|2||How could God send anyone to hell ?||John||tgc||141551|
|I guess I am dense in that I do not see how this statement would deny the Truth of Heb.10:13. If one rejecrs Christ and stands alone in front of a Just and Holy God then what a fearful thing it would be. I hate to even imagine anything of the sort. However this goes back to our choice of accepting or rejecting Christ as Lord and Savior He as done all the work neccessary for aour redemption and made the choices very plain now we have to choose Him or hell. I just do not understand how this could be considered unsound doctrine.
Doc, I have the upmost respect for your views and opions as you have so well expressed them here on the forum, I enjoy very much just stopping by and browsing the forum to see what you and a few others have been discussing so please do not feel that I in anyway am tring to be disrespectful to you but again I just do not understand your view.
In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|3||How could God send anyone to hell ?||John||tgc||141522|
|Well there has to be a first time for everything Doc, as far as I can remember this is the first time we have disagreed. Now understand that I agree with you in that we are saved from God's wrath through Jesus. I agree with you that that the worst thing that could happen to a person is to stand naked in ones own works and their own strength before a Holy and Rightpous God. I would also agree that a very good question is how could God allow us in to His heaven. The answer to this is grace. The reason Jesus came was to make it possible for us to be united with God through the rightousness of Christ. God put together a plan from before the foundation of the world to redeem all those who would belive through faith on the name of Jesus. God has revealed Himself through Natural Law, Creation, the prophets, Through The Incarnation of Jesus, the Holy Bible, His church.
God has made every opportunity for man to repent and belive in the name of Jesus and He has clearly informed us of what it means to reject Jesus that is seperation from Him for all eternity in hell. So if God has went to such great lengths such as the cross then man has to make a choice to either accept Jesus and msake Him Lord and Savior or rejecrt Him and pay the cost of that rejection. I fail to see how this view in anyway minimizes man's guilt or demeans the Holiness of God in anyway. I would argue just the opposite that it clearly and definitely highlights man's guilt and man's helplessness to do anything about that guilt before a just and holy God and that only through the devine intervention of God can man have any hope. I would also argue that it highlights God's holiness in that He wqorks through creatures that can choose to accept or reject Him and not through robots preprogramed. This arguement is not to protect God but to glorify Him in all His majasty.
In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|4||Help me find an accurate study Bible?||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||141443|
|My two favorite study bibles are the Nelson complete study system and the MacAruther mine are in NKJV. However the NASB is an excellent translation and I really do not think you could go wrong with choice I personally would lean toward The New Inductive Study Bible because of its organized approach to Bible study. This is the system which I recommend to all those who I teach. A quick look at Christan Book.com will give you an ideal of the many different choices that are out there. In The Love Of Christ, tgc|
|5||How could God send anyone to hell ?||John||tgc||141442|
|The answer to this question is that God does not send anyone to Hell. We choose that for ourselves by rejecting Jesus as our Lord and Savior. For a scriptural backing to ths just look at John chapter 3 verses 1-21. This is Jesus discourse with Nicodemus on the matter of salvation. To show that God does not accept man on man's terms but only on the terms of Christ Himself just look to Acts chapter 17 :16-34 this is Paul's adress to the Areopagus where he discusses these matters with the people of Greece and therir religous system. Then there is the ovious that if we could just have any belief system we want it really doesn't matter then what good was the Cross. To see the biblical view of religous systems other than that which was brought by Jesus check the books of 1 John and 2 John.
This is just a very basic scetch that I have given much more could be said some exceelent works have been written on this issue from those such as Hank Hengraffe, Norman Giesler,Josh McDowell, and others some titles that come to mind are When Skeptics Ask, When Critics Ask, and The Bible Answer Book just to name a few. Also last term in school we where in the writtings of John and had to write a lesson plan out of these my paper was based out of John chapter 3 and I would be glad to email to you if you like as it is to large to post. Hope this helps. In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|6||Your thoughts?||Matt 12:32||tgc||128389|
|New Creature, No it is not possible for that child to disown God. Let me qoute just two passages of scriptures that lead me to belive this way.
First John 10:28-29 NKJV
28 "And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 "My Father, who has given [them] to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch [them] out of My Father's hand.
Breaking these two verses down lets see where it leads us. Who gives eternal life? Jesus
what is the promise of eternal life to the belivers? they shall never perish nor can ANYONE snatch them out of My hand.
Who does the hand belong to? Jesus
Who has given these belivers to Jesus? God the Father.
Who is greater than the Father? No one
Who can take belivers out of God the Fathers hand? No one
Our salvation begins and ends with Jesus we can do nothing to save ourselves and once we are saved by grace we can do nothing to keep our salvation it all Jesus.
The next passage I want to look at is Romans 8:26-39
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit [is,] because He makes intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God. 28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to [His] purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined [to be] conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. 31 What then shall we say to these things? If God [is] for us, who [can be] against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? [It is] God who justifies. 34 Who [is] he who condemns? [It is] Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [Shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written: "For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter." 37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
This passage really speaks for itself and ther is no need to go in to a breakdown of it. Really this passage just strengthens or adds to the previous taking the same thought worded in differnet way but saying the same thing.
Hope this helps. In The Love Of Christ,tgc
|7||Explantation of Gen. 6:1-6||Gen 6:2||tgc||128082|
|Tim thank for your reply I think it along with a few others have really helped to cement my thoughts on this subject. I whole heartiedly thank you for your hard work digging into this subject on my behalf. And as to why this thread has been restricted I have no ideal. Thanks again you have been a lot of help to me with this. In The Love Of Christ, tgc|
|8||Order of occurance||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127966|
|New Creature, Exactly.
In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|9||Was the Trinity split||NT general Archive 1||tgc||127965|
|Emmaus and Angel, Thanks for everything. In The Love Of Christ, tgc|
|10||Order of occurance||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127937|
|New Creature, I think our wise brother Tim Moran has spoken well in that we can discuss this but with the understanding over all scripture is silent on the actual order of these events. Now on to answer your questions.
The question you listed as 2. In my opion regeneration comes after salvation and therefore there is no contradiction at all.
3. Leaarus had to have heard the command from his Lord to rise from the dead. Then he obeyed the command come forth. So in this case I would say that the dead did hear the command of his Lord.
4. I did not relize that I had mixed faith and regeneration. What I said is that salvation comes through grace by faith. My understanding would be grace and faith are the agents of salvation. That is to say regeneration takes place after salvation.
5. Lazarus heard the call to come forth from the dead and responed to that call. Although his response was through the power of his Lord Jesus Christ. In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|11||Explanation of Genesis 6:1-6||Genesis||tgc||127928|
|CDBJ, Thank you for pointing this out. Iwas very tired as I was writing last night. You are correct the proper qoute would be flesh and bone.
I apoligize for the mistake. This does not change the thought of the post however do you have any ideals from your personal study?
In The Love OF Christ, tgc
|12||Was the Trinity split||NT general Archive 1||tgc||127926|
|Emmaus and Angel, I thank you both for your excellent replys. You have confirmed for me what my own study has led me to belive. Yes I belivethis teaching could be very dangerous as it changes both the very Nature of God The Father and Jesus Christ God The Son. Again thank you for taking the time to help me with this. Would it be ok for me to use the information in your respective post to formulate an answer to this question in writting. In THe Love OF Christ, tgc|
|13||Explantation of Gen. 6:1-6||Gen 6:2||tgc||127900|
|Tim, Your kindness speaks volums of your walk with Christ. If you have time look on the note board and you will find where I have gone a little deeper with this line of thought and would really like to have your insights. In The Love Of Christ, tgc|
|14||Explantation of Gen. 6:1-6||Gen 6:2||tgc||127897|
|Tim thank you for your reply I guess I'll have to go with Henery. As it seems you are new to the forum I welcome you and look foward to future discussion. In The Love Of Christ, tgc|
|15||Explanation of Genesis 6:1-6||Genesis||tgc||127896|
|Steve I post this under your note hoping Mark will also pick up on it. Scratch your heads with on this please. All the way through scripture when we find the Bible speaking of the fallen angels or demons the term spirit is used in regards to them an example of such passages would be Lev.19:31, Lev.20:6, Deut.18:11, Mk. 3:11, Lk.4:36. So what is my point with this just follow me for a moment. If we look at Hebrews 1:7 It tells us that God's Angels are ministering Spirits. I also can not find one clearly documented case in the Bible of a demon or fallen angel taking on human form possessing an unsaved person yes but not taking on human form of it's own will. So if angels are spirit and fallen angels must be spirits how can they take on human form when in Luke 24:38 Christ offers this statement as proof of His resurrection" And He said to them, "Why are you troubled? And why do you doubt arise in your heart? Behold My hands and My feet that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and blood as you see I have."
So Christ offers as proof of His resurrection the fact that He has flesh and blood and spirits do not. So it would seem to me that if we argue that spirits can make babies with women then are we arguing against the very evidence that Christ offered for His ressurection?
All of this said I know ther are Bilical accounts of Angels of God appearing in human form and the only way I can think to reconcille this is the fact that God as Creator and The All Powerful One can grant this to His angels when it is within His plan however Satan not being all powerful and not having the power of creation can not offer this to his fallen angels.
Any thoughts please?
|16||Order of occurance||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127894|
|Good Evening, New Creature, I have not been ignoring your questions just have not had a chance to answer them. I thought I had answered the definition of regeneration, however I was probly unclear so let me offer this.
Rgeneration : When Christ renews ones heart and gives that person the new nature or if you will the point a which the new man is born. This is entirely the work of Christ and man has no hand in it.
Yes I belive an unregenerated man can respond to the Gospel. The Bible teaches that salvations comes by grace through faith. The Bible goes on to tell that faith comes by hearing the Word of God. To elaborate I belive that all of us have a seed of faith planted deep within us. This can be demonstrated by simply looking around us, take for example the athiest, I wuld say he has more faith than me, to belive there is simply nothing beyound man himself and completely eliminate any ideal of any kind of god. Another example would be the evolutionist who can put all his faith in the ideal that something came from nothing. Everything just happened by chance. These two positions take huge amounts of faith to honestly hold to. However when one hears the Gospel and responds to conviction of th Holy Spirit by the seed of Faith that God has planted in them, then the ground work for salvation is in place.
So I guess the short answer to that part of your question is that all who come to Christ have an unregenerated heart.
I relize that there are many who will disagree with me on this but this is where I stand. I hope I have clearly answered your questions. In The Love Christ, tgc
|17||Explanation of Genesis 6:1-6||Genesis||tgc||127570|
|I have been pondering on this question for some time. So I thought I would seek the wisdom of many of you on the forum. In Gen. 6:1-6
NKJV) Genesis 6:1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they [were] beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he [is] indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore [children] to them. Those [were] the mighty men who [were] of old, men of renown. 5 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every intent of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually. 6 And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
Here is the question it seems from what I can learn the classical reading of this is that "the sons of God" refered to in this passage are falling angels and that these fallen angels had relations with human women that bore children from these relationships.
Here is my problem first of all Jesus Himself said angels are sexless beings in Matthew 22:29-30.
Another problem I have with this is if in fact fallen angels and human women had children where would they fall in the plan of redemption. Would this not be a new ontological creation? Any help with this will be recieved thankfully. In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|18||The Doctrines Please?||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127557|
|EdB, Sorry about that. tgc|
|19||The Doctrines Please?||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127493|
|20||John8:24 and John8:57-58||Ex 3:14||tgc||127489|
|Bro. Hank, Ireally do not belive that DBR is going to answer you. I have been doing a little research into some of the names he is throwing around as reference and they seem to link to the prederist school of thought which as you well know is quite popular with the JWs. Since they continually miss there prophecies and now claim that Jesus is here with an invisible presents.
It should also be noted that JWs are told it is ok to lie or be evasive about who they are if it is in the best interest of spreading their hersy.
In The Love Of Christ, tgc
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