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|1||Not e to mkm9||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||120765|
|good evening, mkm9
What is a church plant? That is when you start a new church from the ground up. When doing this it is really interesting because you have no building or facilities to work with. My job in the church is the director of outreach ministies. I try to teach people how to share their faith and then convince thwm to go out and do it.
And you are right what is"cowgirls"?
By the way for a new church to be considered a plant it must be a new work not a result from a split.
|2||Not e to mkm9||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121009|
Thanks for the clarification never heard the term "cowgirl" used that way before. Let me try to explain church plant alittle more indepth. when I use the term split I am refering to the viloent seperation of a local body over some frivilous arguement. Of course there are other churches involved in a support role. If you would like specific information about this particular work check out our web site www.hopeshere.com
As far as to what do I teach maybe disciple would be a better word you see rather than pull members oput of other churches our membership comes from our core group sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ and seeing people come to know him as their personal Lord and Savior. Then I help them to grow in the faith til they can go out and reproduce themselves. You see my personal passion is to share the Good News of Christ with everyone He gives me the opportunity to. As far as your comment about following in Him and not denominations I whole hearedly agree although I do work within the Southern Baptist Convention I do not pledge my support to the SBC but I pledge my whole life to Christ. I would love to hear more about your ideas along the lines. In Christ name tgc
|3||Purpose of Prayer?||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121457|
I certainly thank you for your note and appericate the kind words. May I say that your exposition was wonderfully written. However may I ask to which of the older translations you refer/ And if I maybe so bold ask to know a little of your theological background. tgc
|4||How do you define cult?||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121598|
|Hank thanks for your note. I was just sitting here talking with a friend of mine about the restriction of this thread. By the way I really appreciate all the notes you have sent to help me better learn to take part in the forum. Please take a look at the question I posted earlier today from your past post I would value your insights. thanks, tgc|
|5||Miss JW please answer this question||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121710|
I have not found a JW yet who would even try to answer this question thay always have somewhere to go or want to change the subject, go figure. tgc
|6||Miss JW please answer this question||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121807|
|Whats Up Tim,
Thanks for this excellent point. I wish I had a way to share some of the materials with you I complied over the years for working with JWs Mormans and other cults. Thanks again tgc
|7||Miss JW please answer this question||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121908|
First things first. The reference I made proves alot it shows Micheal as a subbortant of God but Jesus as His equal. Now yes I can respond to your statement. CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT! The verses you refer to are part of a much longer passage addressing foods sacfriced to idols. Back up to verse 4 of 1 Cor. 8 and what does Paul say " There fore concerning the ating of things sacfriced to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world and that there is no other God but one." If you would like to have an understanding of this read all chapter 8 in context. tgc
|8||Miss JW please answer this question||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121909|
|bstudent3, The question is not do I disagree with what Paul has written under the authority of the Holy Spirit, but do you. My refernce for this is 1 Cor. chapter 15. Here Paul addresses the resurrected Christ as a reality. He goes so far as to say without the resurrection of Christ we are hopless. The fact that this is a bodily resurrection is very clearly shown by Jesus Himself in Luke 24:36-44. So if your doctrin concerning the resurrection is correct the bible is wrong. No offense but I will side with Jesus and what he says on this. tgc|
|9||Miss JW please answer this question||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121913|
|Tim, At this time I do not have any of thie information I spoke to you about on my pc however that is a project I intend to undertake. I will send you my notes as I get them in my system. If you have reason to contact me directly you can e mail me at email@example.com. God bless, Tom|
|10||Miss JW please answer this question||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||121988|
|bstudent3, Lets just cut all the fancy talk and put all of this in plain lanuage. Jesus Christ is God! To deny this is to deny the entire teaching of scripture to make my point I offer the following.
As Messiah, Ps.24:7 Ps. 24:10 Ps. 45:6-7 Is. 40:3 Is 40:11 Jer.23:5-6 Zech. 13:7 Mat. 3:3 mark 2:7 Rom.9:3 Col.3:13 Titus2:13 Heb.13:20 1 Peter2:8
Jesus as God Gen2:3 Is7:14 Is9:6 Is44:6 Is48:12-16
Mat1:23 Mat12:8 Mat26:63-67 Phil2:6 John1:1 Col 2:9 Rev22:13
Jesus as one with the Father John 10:30 John 12:45 Proverbs 30:4 Mat. 11:27 John 5:17 John 5:23 John 10:38.
You say you hope I will be with you in the resurrected earth I hope you will come to realize that your only hope of anything other than eternal damnation that is a real place of punishment with eternal physical existence seperated from God is to come to know Jesus Christ as your great God and Savior the One who paid the price for all of our sins on the cross. The only way to know the Father is through the Son. So I will ask you now will you come to that place of repentance and except the real Jesus as your Lord and Savior
Confess your sin to Him and except His gift of salvation. No matter how many doors you knock on, how many magizines you distribute , what you do for the Watch Tower Org. none of it will cut it before before God. Only through the rightousness of Jesus Christ can you stand before God. tgc
|11||Not e to mkm9||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||122415|
|mkm9, Let me define for you what I mean by reproduce theirself. When a christan has grown enough in their faith that they are open enough to the spirit to follow Him in leadings others to Christ and decipleing them. As far as denominations go yes their are problems however there are benifits. One just has to decide if the benifits outweigh problems. For example within the SBC ther are many great works being accomplished that could never be done indepdently. For example the childerns homes the support of a very well trained and able to stay in the field missionary work. To name a couple. The other attractive thing about the SBC is that each church is independent unto it's self We all agree on the essentials of the Christan Faith and within that frame work agree to work together. But as I have said before if that ever changes I will be the first to leave. Hope your machine problems go away soon. In The Love Of Christ, tgc|
|12||jehovahs witnesses||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||124823|
|victora, you are welcome to have your say but the fact remains the JW's and the watchtower organization are a cult. As to your referenceto Colossians 1:15 The translation of 1:15-17 has posed a problem for many who study this important passage about Jesus' relation to creation. This text of Scripture avers the same teaching about Jesus as found in John1:1, namely that He preceded creation and is the cause of all creation. some advocate an unorthodox view from this passage in saying that Jesus was in reality the first creature that God the Father created and that Jesus then was used by God to creat all other creation. They do so by arguing that firstborn of all creation Translaeting v.15 over as of means He was first thing created and that the subsequent verses should be translated all other things have been created through Him and He is before all other things. The difficulty of this attempt to deny Jesus Christ His stature as Creator is that 1. of all creation in the greek is a genitive case @. the meaning of begotten and 3. the fact that the Greek word for other does not occur in the text at all. First in the statement speaks of Christ's priority to creation and sovereignty oover all creation.The words of all creation are the object of firstborn rather than firstborn being the object of of all creation. Second begotten is not the same as creation the words are clearly distinguished in the passage. God begets the Son but the Son creats the world. When a man begets he begets a man when God begets He begets God and this from eternity. Creation on the other hand is not the same as God. Third to put other in the passage if foreign to the discussion of the text and is merely an attempt to explain away the meaning of the text that Jesus the Creator created all things. From the Nelson Complete Study System product number 2885. That should handle ths Colossians question. To deal with the passage in John Christ is refering to his human nature to go a little futher with this lets look at John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him because He not only broke the Sabbath but also said that God was His Father making Himself EQUAL with God. No matter how much some folks two thousand years later want to say that Jesus never claimed to be God Scripture proves this wrong.For more clarification on this issue let us look to Philippians 2:5-11 " Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who being in the form of God did not consider it robbery to be equal with God but made Himself of no reputation taking the form of a bondservent and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow of those in Heaven and of those on earth and of those under the earth and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. How much clearer could the diety of Jesus Christ be. He HImself makes Himself equal to God because He is God. For this reason the denial of Jesus Christ as God among many others there is no salvation in JW theology at all it is simply a fast track to Hell regardless if you belive in Hell or not. The Jesus of The JW's is not the Jesus revealed in the Bible that is why the Jw's had to go back and rewrite the KJV version of the Bible to make it fit there own ideals. They can not claim they translated this as it has already been proven in a court of law that the people on the translation committee could not read the original lanuages. Good deeds will not get one to Heaven, unbelisf in hell will not keep one out of hell. Only belief in Jesus Christ as revealed in the Bible repentance toward God and surrender to the Lordship of Jesus Christ will get one to Heaven anything elese will end one up in hell. In The Love Of Christ, tgc|
|13||A note of thanks||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||125665|
|Bro. Hank , justme, Angel, and all the others who have been so helpful to me on my work concerning Christan Unity and Conflict Resolution. The help you have offered has been a God sent. To that end I am writting to let you know that I have posted the outcome of this work on Christians Interactive.com. As I write this the work is awaiting a modorateor so that it can be posted to the board. I only write this so maybe if any of you choose to take a look at the work and give me your feed back which I really want you can. Again thank you for all of your help.
TO: justme, My brother my family and I are lifting you up daily in prayer. Thanks for your example you are setting by he way you are going through this time in your life. Please let us know how you are. In The Love of Christ, tgc
|14||is jesus god||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||125690|
|Doc Trinsograce, I thank you for the kind words. But if you have an answer to a question on the board let go with it. It maybe that your style of communicating reaches someone better than someone else's. We should all have the same goal to bring Glory to our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ not ourselves. May God Bless. In The Love Of Christ,tgc|
|15||Order of occurance||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127304|
|New Creature, Sorry not to get back to you sooner. The reason I give the list the order I do is because I think it is really hard to seperate salvation and regeneration. The way I understand it when a person comes to the point of repentance and calls on the Name of the Lord and is saved at that point salvation occurs and when salvation occurs one is given a new heart or regenerated. In this man has no hand,it is all the work of Christ. The next step in the process is santification where we are conformed more to Christ likeness everyday. There are some who would link this with regeneration making it also an ongoing process I however hold to the ideal that regenerstion and salvation are basically happening at the same time. Let me close with this to maybe backup my position. In Romans 10:13 Paul writes " For whosoever shall call upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." This would lead me to belive that salvation happens at the very moment that one calls on the name of the Lord.
Then in 2 Cor. 5:17 Paul states, " Therefore if any man be in Christ he is a new creature; old things are passed away; behold all things are become new."
In short my understanding is this, if we are instantly saved when we come to Christ in repentance, then we would instantly be in Christ and when we are in Christ we are a new creation or regenerated. I hope this answers your question. In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|16||The Doctrines Please?||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127493|
|17||The Doctrines Please?||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127557|
|EdB, Sorry about that. tgc|
|18||Order of occurance||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127894|
|Good Evening, New Creature, I have not been ignoring your questions just have not had a chance to answer them. I thought I had answered the definition of regeneration, however I was probly unclear so let me offer this.
Rgeneration : When Christ renews ones heart and gives that person the new nature or if you will the point a which the new man is born. This is entirely the work of Christ and man has no hand in it.
Yes I belive an unregenerated man can respond to the Gospel. The Bible teaches that salvations comes by grace through faith. The Bible goes on to tell that faith comes by hearing the Word of God. To elaborate I belive that all of us have a seed of faith planted deep within us. This can be demonstrated by simply looking around us, take for example the athiest, I wuld say he has more faith than me, to belive there is simply nothing beyound man himself and completely eliminate any ideal of any kind of god. Another example would be the evolutionist who can put all his faith in the ideal that something came from nothing. Everything just happened by chance. These two positions take huge amounts of faith to honestly hold to. However when one hears the Gospel and responds to conviction of th Holy Spirit by the seed of Faith that God has planted in them, then the ground work for salvation is in place.
So I guess the short answer to that part of your question is that all who come to Christ have an unregenerated heart.
I relize that there are many who will disagree with me on this but this is where I stand. I hope I have clearly answered your questions. In The Love Christ, tgc
|19||Order of occurance||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127937|
|New Creature, I think our wise brother Tim Moran has spoken well in that we can discuss this but with the understanding over all scripture is silent on the actual order of these events. Now on to answer your questions.
The question you listed as 2. In my opion regeneration comes after salvation and therefore there is no contradiction at all.
3. Leaarus had to have heard the command from his Lord to rise from the dead. Then he obeyed the command come forth. So in this case I would say that the dead did hear the command of his Lord.
4. I did not relize that I had mixed faith and regeneration. What I said is that salvation comes through grace by faith. My understanding would be grace and faith are the agents of salvation. That is to say regeneration takes place after salvation.
5. Lazarus heard the call to come forth from the dead and responed to that call. Although his response was through the power of his Lord Jesus Christ. In The Love Of Christ, tgc
|20||Order of occurance||Bible general Archive 2||tgc||127966|
|New Creature, Exactly.
In The Love Of Christ, tgc
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