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81 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35557 | ||
Brother John I too enjoy all our discussions; To answer your question to the best of my knowledge: You asked: "My question is: Why do some men hate the light but other men love the Light." Scripture says: John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. They enjoy sin and evil deeds, and reject what light they have been given. Grace Peace and love in the precious name of Christ Jesus our blessed Savior and Lord. zach† |
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82 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35560 | ||
Mommapbs; The only thing that truly matters in any discussion of scripture is that we agree with scripture. The problem in incorect interpretation of scripture concerning this topic is that it could lead some to believe that the tribulation could not come in their life-time, because they have been told that they will be raptured before the tribulation. And if that is not true then when the tribulation comes, they will be confused, becasue they have been told that they would not be around when it happens and be caught off guard. So thats why it's important. Scripture has the final say. It's the final authority for all faith and practice. God richly bless zach† |
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83 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35561 | ||
CDBJ; To that I say AMEN and AMEN zach† |
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84 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35588 | ||
dear brother John; When I personally consider an answer to any question, I first must see what scripture says: Secondly, I begin to collect my thoughts, whether correct, or incorrect, considering such things as the fall of the human race through the sin of Adam, and how everyone since the fall has been born dead spiritually, with an inherited sin nature. and cannot will to please God. But at the same time I also believe that when regeneration comes to the individual, and that from God. We then have been given new natures, our will to do good and please God has been restored back from the original fall. But at the same time when the light comes to many individuals, they reach for the light switch and say no thank you to the light they received. But if I go any deeper into this topic then I would have to bring up the fact of how I also disagree with the "Irresistable Grace" of TULIP also, and seeing how the initial question was concerning "Limited Atonement" also called "Particular Redemption" I will try to stick to the initial question, and reserve the "Irresistable Grace" thoughts for later. Those are just some thoughts I share about my line of thinking, and when all is said and done, I still have to go back to scripture, as I know you also do to find correct answers concerning spiritual matters. May God richly bless you as you daily spend time alone with Him in His word zach† |
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85 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35589 | ||
Mommapbs; I do respect your right to hold to whatever it is you believe about this topic or any other topic. I sense a note of being offended, in this reply from you. My intention in discussing this topic wasn't to offend. I merely wanted to discuss this topic with anyone who CHOSE to do so. Grace peace and love zach† |
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86 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35603 | ||
bgg; God bless your heart You stated: "I still know that the Ant-Christ is coming to decieve the world" Scripture says: 1John 2:18 ¶ Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. So as you also stated "continue to hold to the truth and to your faith" that sounds like a good plan. God bless you Grace and peace zach† |
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87 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35607 | ||
CDBJ; Think about this: Many of the things Jesus said offended many religious people. So if we quote Jesus are we expecting to win the world's favor? Grace Peace and love zach† |
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88 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35615 | ||
CDBJ; Yes I have been to signministries.org in the past. And yes it is interesting. Grace and Peace zach† |
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89 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35623 | ||
CDBJ The following scripture comes to mind; Therefore be on the alert, for YOU do not know which day YOUR LORD is coming. But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the theif was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. For this reason YOU be ready too; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when YOU do not think He will (Matthew 24:42-44 NASB) The question I have for you my friend is concerning those pronouns in this text. The words "you" and "your" Who is Jesus speaking to ? Is "you" and "your" in this text referring to believers or unbelievers? Who is this text addressed to? I personally believe Jesus is speaking to believers. The reason I believe that can be seen in verse 42 where it says; "your Lord" That could not be referring to the unsaved. And look at what He says in verse 44: "you be ready" (be ready is a key phrase) "you be ready ... for the Son of Man is coming at an hour WHEN YOU DO NOT THINK HE WILL." We are to be patiently waiting for His return. We are to be prepared and ready at all times.(see Luke 12:35-40 on this also) Finally, just one more excellent verse concerning being prepared and ready: Rev. 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. (KJV) Grace and peace zach† |
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90 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35717 | ||
CDBJ; As a new believer I too once accepted the pre-trib rapture theory. But after years of reading and re-reading scripture, I began to see portions of scripture that to me proves the false-hood of the pre-trib theory. Inside me there is a desire to wish the pre-trib theory were true, but being the realist I am, scripture tells me pre-trib is not true. So in that sense I agree with you. May the God of all grace abound and give you His love and peace. zach† |
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91 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35754 | ||
CDBJ; I couldn't agree with you more... Big difference between the tribulation, and the wrath of God which are yet future but separate events. But thank God we are delivered from the wrath to come. God Bless you zach† |
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92 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35769 | ||
dear brother John; Yes thats is an agreeable definition of regeneration. It works for me. You quoted the following verse: Heb. 13:5 "I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee". I believe that with all my heart. However scipture also says: Thus saith the Lord, ye have forsaken me, and therefore have I also left you (2 Chr. 12:5) The Lord is with you, while ye be with him ... but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you. (2 Chr. 15:2) because ye have forsaken the Lord, he hath also forsaken you. (2 Chr. 24:20) I will even forsake you saith the Lord. (Jer. 23:33) Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you ... and cast you out of my presence. (Jer. 23:39) God will never just decide to forsake any believer, ever! Yet, the believer may decide to forsake Him. Once a believer has forsaken God He then will give them up to themselves and forsake them. This does not contradict that He will never leave or forsake a believer, rather it affirms that God is not the one who does the forsaking. If we fall from the faith, it doesn’t reflect negatively upon God’s faithfulness, but rather on our unfaithfulness So from all of my replys thus far, I have stated: 1) I do not personally accept "Limited Atonement teaching 2) I disagree with the teaching of "Irresistable Grace" 3) and now I have declared to also be in disagreement with the teaching of "Perseverance of the Saints" But I respectfully disagree with those teachings, and still enjoy all your replys. I believe we can disagree on the non-essentials of our faith and still be brothers in Christ. It is in the areas of essentials that we are possibly in much greater agreement. essentials such as, Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, He was buried, and He was raised from the dead on the third day, and is now seated on the right hand of God the Father interceding before Him on our behalf. And that no one comes to the Father except through Christ Jesus. By grace are we saved through faith, and that not of ourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast. For we are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. God richly bless you as you daily spend time with Him in His word, looking prayerfully unto Him for guidance and direction. zach† |
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93 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35877 | ||
Dear brother John; This argument we are discussing goes back hundreds of years, and believers on either side of this topic can find scripture to support their postion concerning it. I doubt that we are going to settle this debate. I know for me personally the topic has been settled, and I'm sure you also believe it is a settled issue in your mind. We both read the same Bible and come away with different thoughts on the same topic which is basically a non-essential topic. However if you want scripture from the New Testament to let you know why I believe as such, then here is a basic list of scripture you can look over. John 15:1-6 Romans 11:21-22 2 Thess. 2:1-3 1 Tim. 4:1 5;12 Heb. 6:4-7 Heb. 10:26-31 2 Pet. 2:20-22 Rev. 2:4 Rev. 3:1-5 Just to name a few Seeing how both sides find scripture to support what they believe, and scripture isn't in error, then our understanding of scripture is what has to be faulty. I try to find balance in all scripture, because if one verse seems to contradict another verse, I have to believe thats not possble. So I have to take all of scripture, ESPECIALLY those verses that seem to contradict each other, and find how to reconcile the two together, and that I believe I have done. Let me give you a seeming contadiction from scripture as an EXAMPLE of how I reconcile the seeming differences. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. and James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD? Now, do James and Paul disagree on "works?" I don't think they do. If you continue reading Eph. 2:10 Paul says: Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, CREATED in Christ Jesus UNTO GOOD WORKS, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Paul also said: Tit 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that THEY WHICH HAVE BELIEVED IN GOD MIGHT BE CAREFUL TO MAINTAIN GOOD WORKS. So I conclude from both Paul and James that once I become a believer, I should maintain good works. I don't work to BECOME saved, I work BECAUSE I have been saved. Works in the life a believer is the evidence of salvation. Well enough of my rambling on God Bless you as you daily submit yourself to Him zach† |
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94 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35924 | ||
Dear brother John; Actually, as much as I have enjoyed our discussions, I still hold firm to my opinion that "limited atonement" is not Bibical. This following verse alone is proof enough for me that the atonement has been made universally available. 1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and NOT FOR OURS ONLY, BUT ALSO FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. I captialized for puncuation Grace and Peace zach† |
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95 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35937 | ||
Brother John; I live in the Northeast. I usually like to get up at about 5 or 6 am at the latest. The early morning hours provide me with the best quiet time of the day before life naturally becomes noisy and busy. Concerning your statement: "You must admit, the doctrine can be supported through Scripture." I will say this. People can support anything they want through scripture, and most do. To them they find support for whatever subject they choose. I have seen individuals give Bibical support for most everything. I even have heard people say that they can Bibically support their homosexuality, through OT verses where it says David loved Johnathan. Just one of many examples I could provide, but I hope you see what I mean. For me personally, when reading and studying scripture I need to: 1) Prayerfully read scripture, looking to the Holy Spirit to guide my thinking. 2) Remove any pre-conceived notions about what scripture might say. 3) See scriptural truths through God's eyes, not through Commentaries, or church creeds 4) I need to remain teachable 5) Whenever I see that a belief that I previously believed is no longer scripturally true, I am ready to cast away all previous held to beliefs that were false. (the easiest way for one to be deceived, is to believe that he can't be deceived. Satan is very crafty and subtle, and is an expert in perverting scripture, and without our unreservedly trusting the Holy Spirit alone to be our guide then we fall back on man's teachings. And the Holy Spirit alone is called the Spirit of truth. When many come across a difficult passage of scripture, the first thing they do is run to get their nearest Bible Commentary to see what man says about that text. Scripture says; The Holy Spirit shall teach and guide us into all truth. I believe it must sadden the Lord today when many Christian's rely on their favorite TV preacher or book author or commentary writer, to tell them what portions or verses of scripture mean. They not only rely on human opinion as being the final authority for Scripture explanation, but refuse to trust that the Holy Spirit will be their teacher, as Scripture so clearly states. The Bible, and the Holy Spirit take a back seat to human interpretation. So we today end up with a lot of untruths, and half truths mixed with truth. Just a few last quotes and I will leave off. many Christian's have too readily accepted and have been ingrained with the interpretation of their favorite preacher, Church creed, or Christian Author or speaker, who also got their interpretation from human and not divine sources. Many teachers today, try to force the Scriptures to fit their Calvinism, Armianism, etc. Anyone having an independent understanding of Scriptures as taught by The Holy Spirit, who Scriptures tell us "shall teach you all things," (John 14:26; 16:13) is often ridiculed as being unteacheable. Scripture says; "ye need not that any man teach you." (1 John 2:27). Not Calvin, not Arminius, not Luther, not Wesley or any other man. too much of what formulates our doctrine today comes from footnotes, and commentaries. Scripture says the Holy Spirit will teach and guide us into all truth. The American Bible Society once stated that Bibles should be printed without extra-Bibical comments or opinions We don't compare what Scripture's says by what men say it means, but rather we compare what men say, in light of what Scripture says. God richly bless you John zach† |
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96 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35971 | ||
Dear brother John; My statements were not directed to you personally. I'm sorry if thats what you got out of that last reply. My previous statements were only intended to be an observation of discussions I have had with VARIOUS individuals in general. Before I became retired, there was such a vast array of beliefs among individuals in my last two work-places. And the people who held to their beliefs were sincere in what they believe. And I respect all peoples beliefs. I personally don't have the final say on what is true. My thoughts are still being shaped through reading the Bible. And while we don't agree on these non-essential topics we discuss, I certainly do respect your thoughts. The thing is however, as I have previously stated is: I know what scripture is used to support "limited atonement" I once believed with all my heart that "limited atonement was Bibical. But as I continued to study my Bible, verses and portions of scripture kept coming up which made me initially question that teaching and eventually doubt and disbelieve it altogether. But whatever I further say about this topic would be a repeat of what I have already stated in previous replies, I will end this reply. Also as I mentioned. I do very much enjoy our discussions. And would enjoy discussing my thoughts on any Bibical topic with you, and believe that you truly are my brother in the Lord. I know we agree an the essentials of our faith. Grace and peace zach† |
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97 | When were the apostles converted? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 36560 | ||
bernard; I probably should have also asked what scripture you would use to support that thought? Grace be unto thee zach† |
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98 | When were the apostles converted? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 36685 | ||
tuli; Hey wait a minute, I'm the one that asked the question. I think of the verse where Jesus said the following to Peter: Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. That indicates to me that Peter was not as yet converted. However at pentecost we see post-pentecost Peter as different from pre-pentecost Peter. (see Acts chapter 2) Grace love and peace be multiplied unto thee; zach† |
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99 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 38124 | ||
Dear kalos; Your were correct to state that loose salvation and lost salvation cannot be found using search. However, "eternal security" "once saved, always saved" and "once in grace, always in grace" likewise cannot be found in doing a scriptural word search. We could also say the word "trinity" is not in scripture, but nevertheless is implied by scripture, therefore we believe in it. grace be multiplied unto thee. zach† |
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100 | is God the father of everyone ? | Gen 1:27 | zach† | 35881 | ||
jajoje: The idea that everyone is a child of God is simply not true. We are all God's by creation, but we are not all His children positionally. We only become His children positionally when we are born (or adopted) into His family spiritually. We all receive a physical birth, but we have not all received the spiritual rebirth (to be born again). We need to receive the second, or new birth. That is; to be born of the Spirit. John 3:5-6 (this is not a physical birth, but it means to be made alive spiritually) That which is born of the flesh (from earthly parents) is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit (God our Heavenly parent) is spirit. John 3:6 See also John 1:12-13 Jesus said you must be born again. John 3:7 Unless you are born again, you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven. John 3:3-5 AS MANY AS ARE LEAD BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD THEY ARE THE SONS OF GOD. Romans 8:14 As many as are led by the spirit of Satan they are the sons of Satan. The Bible talks of two different spiritual fathers, both having children. 1 John 3:10 mentions the children of God, and the children of the devil. See also Acts 13:10 They who are children of the flesh, are not the children of God Romans 9:8 In Romans 9:22 and 23 we see that there are children of wrath fit for destruction, and children of mercy fit for glory. Ephesians 2:2 mentions the spirit that is now at work in the children of disobedience. The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. Romans 8:16 I speak to my children, open wide your hearts. Don't be unequally joined together with unbelievers. What part has he that is a believer with an unbeliever. Therefore separate yourselves from the unbelievers and I will be a Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2 Corinthians 6:13-18 We are also told in 2 Corinthians 4:4 that; Satan has blinded the minds of them that do not believe. Grace and Peace zach† |
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