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41 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38331 | ||
Joe; First of all I used the example of the "trinity" for those who find no scriptural base for the very real possibilty of a believer being able to forfeit his salvation. Secondly; I did not come up with the McArthur quote, which is his own, off the top of my head, to try to promote one doctrine over another. It is not my nature as a born-again believer in Christ to lie, or promote falsehood. I gave the source for anyone desiring to look it up. Not only McArthurs quote but Stanleys as well. There are two sides in this "eternal security" debate, and my intention is to make sure both sides are well represented. Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee. zach† |
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42 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38348 | ||
Joe; No need to take offense. My reply was to kalos, but I welcome your response as well. Your accucastions of saying I am mis-representing McArthur for merely quoting him are uncalled for, since what i quoted was from him out of his book. John McArthur Jr. Is a great preacher, and I regard him highly, yet I don't think EVERYTHING he says is totally Bibical. I compare what McArthur says by what scripture says, not vice versa. Also John McArthur played a part in my receiving Christ Jesus as Savior and Lord, but as I continued to grow in the faith and as i continued to read and listen to McArthur some obvious Scriptural errors in his teaching became increasingly apparent. I believe that some of his teaching is denominational rather than scriptural as do many others besides myself. Nevertheless, the Bible is my final authority for all faith and practice. And if that means I must reject some teachings of men, then so be it. |
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43 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38349 | ||
Joe; You asked; "The quote from MacArthur's book: was he citing his own beliefs or quoting someone else with whom he disagrees?" The quote is from McArthur The quote is not about someone he disagrees with The quote represents McArthurs own thoughts in the book which I mentioned. Please look it up, While your at it look up the following unScriptural quote from McArthur: "we have confidence that we cannot sin our way out of God's grace." page 336 The McArthur New Testament Commentary of Romans that sort of teaching gives license to antinomianism!!!!!!! Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee zach† |
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44 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38354 | ||
Joe ok then prove it and when you do I will apologize and retract the quote | ||||||
45 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38377 | ||
kalo's The reason for my reply to your post was in response to a Charles Stanley quote that you posted. I took the liberty for not only you, but for other individuals who might come here and then be able to see what else Stanley says concerning "Eternal Security" Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee zach† |
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46 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38379 | ||
EDB; Could you please post in more detail the actual words from the book which you found? I would appreciate it. Thanks zach† |
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47 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38383 | ||
Joe; I had the book. I read the book, and saved the quote I found in it to a file I have. I no longer have the book.I donated it to a church library. If someone does have the book, I would appreciate it if someone who does possess the book would quote not only what I posted, but also all that precedes that quote, plus any information that comes after it, and then let us see for ourselves. No one here has actually posted anything from the book except for me. Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee. zach† |
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48 | John MacArthur an antinomian?!? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38388 | ||
EdB; My false accusation definitely was not made intentionally, so that leaves only one choice left. I don't intentionally try to misrepresent anyone. I will apologize and withdraw from the forum Thanks EDB God richly bless and keep thee zach† |
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49 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 38390 | ||
Joe; EdB corrected me. So at this time I would like to first of all apologize to you and all others in this forum. It wasn't my intention to purposely mis-quoted anyone. I am not the type of person that would do that intentionally. So I am going to withdraw my presence completely from this forum God bless |
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50 | Samuel or Saul? | OT general | zach† | 36637 | ||
Shelly; Thank you. The NIV makes more sense for this verse than the KJV I also looked the verse up in the New Living Translation (which is merely a paraphrase). In the NLT this is how it is worded; Samuel never went to meet with Saul again, but he mourned constantly for him. Thanks again Shelly Grace be multiplied unto thee. zach† |
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51 | Samuel or Saul? | OT general | zach† | 36686 | ||
tuli; yep just did: Here is what I found: 56 abal (aw-bal) a primitive root; TWOT - 6; v AV - mourn 36, lament 3; 39 1) to mourn, lament 1a) (Qal) to mourn, lament 1a1) of humans 1a2) of inanimate objects (fig.) 1a2a) of gates 1a2b) of land 1b) (Hiphil) 1b1) to mourn, cause to mourn (fig.) 1c) (Hithpael) 1c1) to mourn 1c2) play the mourner Grace be multiplied unto thee zach† |
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52 | Samuel or Saul? | OT general | zach† | 36863 | ||
angel; Thank you for your reply. You mentioned that Samuel was mourning for Saul's condition. Would you care to comment on what you believe Saul's condition before the Lord was? Do you believe Saul died saved or unsaved? Grace, peace, and love be multiplied unto thee zach† |
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53 | how can we loose our salvation. | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34430 | ||
Lionstrong; If you re-read my post to etta, you will see that I gave her only scripture references, without any of my own commentaries attached to them. etta asked for verses and i provided them. So what i used was Scripture alone. If you think I wrote those verses ...... well you know I didn't. In Christ zach† |
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54 | how can we loose our salvation. | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34484 | ||
Lionstong; Have it your way. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. Shalom zach† |
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55 | how can we loose our salvation. | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34533 | ||
Clay; As long as we abide in Christ we have hope. And of course all Scripture is true. In Christ zach† |
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56 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34537 | ||
I just thought seeing how I initially asked this question, I would jump in here somewhere to add a few notes I compiled on this subject: I tend to side with Tim Moran's thoughts on this topic. So let me post the following for you viewing and feedback if I may. John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. ( the Greek word "pas" is used for the word "every" in this verse, it is the same Greek word used for "all" in 2 Cor. 5:15 “he died for all” and all in my undersatnding NEVER, NEVER, EVER means some or a few. ) The above verse makes it plain that Jesus the true Light, lighteth what? Some men? Most men? No! Take a look at what the verse says. It says: HE LIGHTETH EVERY MAN THAT COMES INTO THE WORLD!!! Now does EVERY MAN mean EVERY MAN, or does it mean some men. 2 Corinthians 5:15 says: "he died for "all" If you look the word "all" up in the Greek as is used in this verse, and other verses, you find the word "pas" is used. The Greek word "pas" means, all, every, all men, everyone, whole, all manner of, everything, any, whosoever, anything, all things, each. So if I were to follow the logic of Reformed thinking that only some are saved and others are not, I would look to other verses using the Greek word "pas" and see if I can repalce it with the word "some or elect." Here are a few other verses in which the word "all" is found and in EACH and EVERY instance the Greek word used is "pas" which I gave a definition for above. Mt 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. (try replacing the word "all" here with the word "some", it doesn't work) Rom. 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (now I think you will really find it difficult to replace the word "all" in this verse with the word "some" ) Gal. 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, ( agian it would be disasterous to replace the word "all" in this verse with "some" ) 1 Cor. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. (try substituting the word "all" as found here with the word "some." It can't be done) Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. (can you substitute the words "some of these" for the words "These all" found here without making Scripture false? ) 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (finally do you believe you can substitute or replace the word "all" as found in this verse with the word "some") In each of the above verses the same Greek word "pas" is used, so to replace it in one verse would mean you have to replace it in all these verses. This is one of many very good reasons why I believe "Limited Atonement" is unBibical. The Term "Limited Atonement" Really Means Limited Love, Limited Grace of God, and So Slanders God, and Is Unscriptural First John 2:2 plainly says, "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and NOT FOR OURS ONLY, BUT ALSO FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD." No limited atonement there! |
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57 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34538 | ||
I just thought seeing how I initially asked this question, I would jump in here somewhere to add a few notes I compiled on this subject: I tend to side with Tim Moran's thoughts on this topic. So let me post the following for you viewing and feedback if I may. John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. ( the Greek word "pas" is used for the word "every" in this verse, it is the same Greek word used for "all" in 2 Cor. 5:15 “he died for all” and all in my undersatnding NEVER, NEVER, EVER means some or a few. ) The above verse makes it plain that Jesus the true Light, lighteth what? Some men? Most men? No! Take a look at what the verse says. It says: HE LIGHTETH EVERY MAN THAT COMES INTO THE WORLD!!! Now does EVERY MAN mean EVERY MAN, or does it mean some men. 2 Corinthians 5:15 says: "he died for "all" If you look the word "all" up in the Greek as is used in this verse, and other verses, you find the word "pas" is used. The Greek word "pas" means, all, every, all men, everyone, whole, all manner of, everything, any, whosoever, anything, all things, each. So if I were to follow the logic of Reformed thinking that only some are saved and others are not, I would look to other verses using the Greek word "pas" and see if I can repalce it with the word "some or elect." Here are a few other verses in which the word "all" is found and in EACH and EVERY instance the Greek word used is "pas" which I gave a definition for above. Mt 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. (try replacing the word "all" here with the word "some", it doesn't work) Rom. 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (now I think you will really find it difficult to replace the word "all" in this verse with the word "some" ) Gal. 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, ( agian it would be disasterous to replace the word "all" in this verse with "some" ) 1 Cor. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. (try substituting the word "all" as found here with the word "some." It can't be done) Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. (can you substitute the words "some of these" for the words "These all" found here without making Scripture false? ) 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (finally do you believe you can substitute or replace the word "all" as found in this verse with the word "some") In each of the above verses the same Greek word "pas" is used, so to replace it in one verse would mean you have to replace it in all these verses. This is one of many very good reasons why I believe "Limited Atonement" is unBibical. The Term "Limited Atonement" Really Means Limited Love, Limited Grace of God, and So Slanders God, and Is Unscriptural First John 2:2 plainly says, "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and NOT FOR OURS ONLY, BUT ALSO FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD." No limited atonement there! |
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58 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34568 | ||
Joe! Neither do I believe in universalism. However I do believe that in the verses i cited, all means all in these verses. And of course whenever the terms particular redemption or limited atonement is mentioned we then are given a denominations particular slant on Scripture. It is my person opinion that denominations divide, but Christ unites. Doctrinal difference between the various sects have existed as early in my reading since 1 Cor. Chapter 1 where Paul states: 1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? (KJV) one says I'm Methodist, another says I'm Reformed, still another says I'm Pentecostal, was Christ divided, or were you baptized in the name of Calvin, or Wesley (my paraphrase of 1 Cor.1:12-13) (The zach paraphrase of 1 Cor. 1:12-13) I don't expect you to adopt my interpretation for your own, we can discuss it, and yet disagree. But just so you know, I cannot agree with the 5 points of Calvinism,. It's not that I haven't studied them in detail, I just find too much scripture that goes against that teaching. Please don't ask me which scripture. I have discussed this too often in the past with too many of the Reformed faith and have always found these discussions to be unproductive and unfruitful. And yes I do know all the verses they use to support what they believe. I have seen them all many times, and have considered each one of them without excluding any of them. I don't say that to be mean, or disrespectful but just to be open and honest. In Christ zach† |
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59 | Does faith require maintenance? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34904 | ||
Wigglesworth; Thank you for that wonderful and insightful answer. I appreciate it very much, however I note that you said: "Just walk with His Spirit, and talk with Him, and fellowship with Him and don't resist Him." Many I talk to say He can't be resisted. I agree more so with your statement which I just quoted from your post. So I would like to ask you if you tend to agree or disagree with the following statement The Holy Spirit operates in us as we co-operate with Him. If we refuse to yield to Him, His fruit cannot be borne in us. In Christ zach† |
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60 | Does faith require maintenance? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34906 | ||
Emmaus; Thank you for that well thought out answer. You mentioned the obedience of our faith which is found in: Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? and also in: Rom. 16:25 ¶ Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations FOR THE OBEDIENCE OF FAITH: - and found elsewhere in scripture also. What is your opinion of the following quotes? "Only he who believes is obedient. Only he who is obedient, believes." (Bonhoeffer) "Brethren, I would point out that obedience is taught throughout the entire Bible and that true obedience is one of the toughest requirements of the Christian life. Apart from obedience, there can be no salvation, for salvation without obedience is a self-contradictory impossibility." -- A.W. Tozer In Christ zach† |
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