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101 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | zach† | 34925 | ||
Hank and Joe also; Part 1 In my previous comments concerning quotes of Spurgeon, I didn't at that time go into lengthy detail, but now feel the need to at this time. The name of the message which I obtained my previous Spurgeon quotes from and the site where the mesage can be found is be included. Following are portions of Spurgeons message entitled Final Perseverance, and some of my thoughts concerning statements made by Mr. Spurgeon. I'm sure you won't all agree with my comments, especially if you are of the Reformed faith, but nevertheless, I also believe whatever conclusions each of us draw on this message, we can still all agree we all are His. I will add Spurgeons name to quotes gleaned from his message, and add my name to comments to portion of his messsage. This will have to be sent in several parts to this forum. Hope you find the time to read the entire reply. Final Perseverance A Sermon (No. 75) Delivered on Sabbath Morning, March 23, 1856, by the REV. C.H. SPURGEON http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0075.htm "We come to this passage ourselves with the intention to read it with the simplicity of a child, and whatever we find therein to state it; and if it may not seem to agree with something we have hitherto held, we are prepared to cast away every doctrine of our own, rather than one passage of Scripture." (Spurgeon) "First, then, we answer the question, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE HERE SPOKEN OF? If you read Dr. Gill, Dr. Owen, and almost all the eminent Calvinistic writers, they all of them assert that these persons are not Christians. They say, that enough is said here to represent a man who is a Christian externally, but not enough to give the portrait of a true believer. Now, it strikes me they would not have said this if they had had some doctrine to uphold; for a child, reading this passage, would say, that the persons intended by it must be Christians. If the Holy Spirit intended to describe Christians, I do not see that he could have used more explicit terms than there are here. How can a man be said to be enlightened, and to taste of the heavenly gift, and to be made partaker of the Holy Ghost, without being a child of God? With all deference to these learned doctors, and I admire and love them all, I humbly conceive that they allowed their judgments to be a little warped when they said that; and I think I shall be able to show that none but true believers are here described." (Spurgeon) . "First, they are spoken of as having been once enlightened. .. I cannot consider a man truly enlightened unless he is a child of God. Does not the term indicate a person taught of God? It is not the whole of Christian experience; but is it not a part." (Spurgeon) "Having enlightened us, as the text says, the next thing that God grants to us is a taste of the heavenly gift, by which we understand, the heavenly gift of salvation, including the pardon of sin, justification by the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ, regeneration by the Holy Ghost, and all those gifts and graces, which in the earlier dawn of spiritual life convey salvation. ...... we cannot think that the Holy Spirit would describe an unregenerate man as having been enlightened, and as having tasted of the heavenly gift. No, my brethren, if I have tasted of the heavenly gift, then that heavenly gift is mine; if I have had ever so short an experience of my Saviour's love, I am one of his; if he has brought me into the green pastures, and made me taste of the still waters and the tender grass, I need not fear as to whether I am really a child of God." (Spurgeon) "we do assert (and we think, on the authority of Scripture), that no man can be a partaker of the Holy Ghost, and yet be unregenerate. Where the Holy Ghost dwells there must be life; and if I have participation with the Holy Ghost, and fellowship with him, then I may rest assured that my salvation has been purchased by the blood of the Saviour. Thou need'st not fear, beloved; if thou has the Holy Ghost, thou hast that which ensures thy salvation; if thou, by an inward communion, canst participate in his Spirit, and if by a perpetual indwelling the Holy Ghost rests in thee, thou art not only a Christian, but thou hast arrived at some maturity in and by grace. Thou hast gone beyond mere enlightenment: thou hast passed from the bare taste—thou hast attained to a positive feast, and a partaking of the Holy Ghost." (Spurgeon) "the Apostle goes to a further stage of grace. They "have tasted the good word of God." I say again, if these people be not believers—who are?" (Spurgeon) "And they had gone further still. They had attained the summit of piety. They had received "the powers of the world to come." Not miraculous gifts, which are denied us in these days, but all those powers with which the Holy Ghost endows a Christian. |
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102 | Is Limited Atonement a "scandalous" Doc | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34913 | ||
Brother Tim; as always Thank you :) In Christ zach† |
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103 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34912 | ||
Benjamite; Thank you for your reply. In that reply you stated; "I do, however see strong Biblical support for the other four points." which to me would indicate that you claim to be a 4-point Calvinist. And thats well and fine, if thats true of you. I personally think if one point of TULIP crumbles then the whole TULIP topples. However my wish is to remain focused on the Limited Atonement part of TULIP. But nevertheless I will make one brief statement concerning the "I" in TULIP which you also briefly mentioned which stands for "Irresistable Grace" I believe God by His grace does draw us to Himself, but does not drag us to Himself. God's prevenient grace is sufficient, but not irresistable. In Acts I see where those who were uncircumcised in heart, meaning lost in unbelief were able to resist the Holy Spirit ..... let me post this one verse and get off my soap-box. Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST THE HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye. My contention is not just one point of Calvinism is unscriptural, but I personally find fault with much of that particular teaching which I won't go into more detail about at this time. I also understand that others, who are better versed than I am on this difficult subject which has been debated for hundreds of years, will have something to say concerning my reply. Nevertheless, I want to be open and remain teachable In Christ zach† |
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104 | Is Limited Atonement a "scandalous" Doc | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34908 | ||
Brother Tim; What a great post, and how wonderful are the Bibical truths which you expound. Concerning the individuals "receiving the gift of reconciliation I often use the word "appropriate" which to me means we must take for ourselves the free gift of salvation which is being offered and extended to each individual. Do you think the word "appropriate" is proper? In Christ zach† |
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105 | Does faith require maintenance? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34906 | ||
Emmaus; Thank you for that well thought out answer. You mentioned the obedience of our faith which is found in: Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? and also in: Rom. 16:25 ¶ Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations FOR THE OBEDIENCE OF FAITH: - and found elsewhere in scripture also. What is your opinion of the following quotes? "Only he who believes is obedient. Only he who is obedient, believes." (Bonhoeffer) "Brethren, I would point out that obedience is taught throughout the entire Bible and that true obedience is one of the toughest requirements of the Christian life. Apart from obedience, there can be no salvation, for salvation without obedience is a self-contradictory impossibility." -- A.W. Tozer In Christ zach† |
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106 | Does faith require maintenance? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34904 | ||
Wigglesworth; Thank you for that wonderful and insightful answer. I appreciate it very much, however I note that you said: "Just walk with His Spirit, and talk with Him, and fellowship with Him and don't resist Him." Many I talk to say He can't be resisted. I agree more so with your statement which I just quoted from your post. So I would like to ask you if you tend to agree or disagree with the following statement The Holy Spirit operates in us as we co-operate with Him. If we refuse to yield to Him, His fruit cannot be borne in us. In Christ zach† |
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107 | Do not quench the Spirit | 1 Thess 5:19 | zach† | 34891 | ||
Ray; Thanks Let me ask this: Is the Holy Spirit God in us? 1Cor. 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? In Christ zach† |
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108 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34878 | ||
Brother Tim; Wow thats great stuff can I have your permission to print this for further reference? Thank you Tim In Christ zach† |
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109 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | zach† | 34827 | ||
Joe; I will try to relocate the entire message from which I collected these quoutes, and once I find them, I will attach them here zach† |
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110 | Rev 3:16 lukewarm | Rev 3:16 | zach† | 34776 | ||
heisthe; Thank you for your reply; I can't find any fault in your comments In Christ zach† |
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111 | Rev 3:16 lukewarm | Rev 3:16 | zach† | 34774 | ||
Fountain; hank you for your reply; I am pondering over the interesting statement you sent me in that commentary which stated: "This spirit of indifference is the most tragic thing that can happen to a church." Thank you In Christ zach† |
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112 | Self or Others? | Matt 7:14 | zach† | 34766 | ||
True Friend I accidentaly posted my note to your reply when I actually meant to attach it as an answer to charis sorry zach† |
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113 | Self or Others? | Matt 7:14 | zach† | 34765 | ||
Dear brother charis; I think the NKJV rendition of this verse helps me to better understand this verse. The NKJV words it this way: Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. I think Luke 13:23-24 is a good cross reference which to me sheds light on the verse in question; Luke 13:23-24 says: Lu 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. So from these two separate texts my thoughts begin to gravitate toward a remnant that are saved. Scripture also refers to a remanant in Luke 12:32 except here it calls them a "little flock" Let me post this verse. Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Now lets jump back to Matthew 7:13 where it says: Mt. 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: So we see that it's the many that are traveling on the broad (wide) road leading to destruction, and the Few (or remnant, little flock) Mt. 7:14 that are going down the less traveled narrow and difficult path or road which leads to life. I would appreciate your comments in return In Christ zach† |
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114 | Partakers of the Holy Spirit? | Heb 6:6 | zach† | 34761 | ||
K; concerning Heb. 6:4-6 you stated; "this is a hypothetical situation." So I will comment as follows: there is no conditional participle present in the Greek text to support any claims that the word “if” in Heb. 6:6 was in the original text. The writer in Hebrews simply says to us …. kai parapesontas – “and they have fallen away” (second aorist active participle). The Greek conjunction “kai” usually means “and” has an adversative force here, meaning and yet. The writer is saying “they had all these blessings and yet in spite of all this, they have still fallen away” (A.T. Robertson) The NEB translates the phrase, “and after all this” There is nothing in either the language or the context to indicate that the instances of apostasy cited in Heb. 6:4-6 are only hypothetical. Those who hold to the unconditional eternal security position take this text to say that “this is not a warning of apostasy, but rather a warning against imagining that apostasy is possible.” Their reasoning comes from Paul’s statement “But beloved, we are persuaded better things of you.” They fail to reckon with the transition from the third person (those, they, and them) in verses 4-6 to the second person (you) in verse 9. The writer is persuaded of better things for “you” not “them” In Christ zach† |
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115 | fall upward? | 1 Tim 4:1 | zach† | 34757 | ||
CDBJ; Ok but how do account for the fact that, HERE WAS A MAN WHO WAS CONVERTING OTHERS TO CHRIST? In Christ zach† |
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116 | Is sanctification a joint effort? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34756 | ||
Searcher; I am new to this forum and am still just beginning to learn about the search feature. Hopefully in a short time I will not ask repeat questions. Thank you once again for your response In Christ zach† |
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117 | Mt. 27 Dead men walking | Matthew | zach† | 34755 | ||
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118 | fall upward? | 1 Tim 4:1 | zach† | 34739 | ||
dear brother charis; I was just getting caught up on some of the many responses I have received, and couldn't remember if I had sent the following article your way for consideration on this topic or not. If I haven't I would appreciate your comments on it. If I have or if you have previously read this account please forgive me and ignore it. So here goes: Denying Christ: Has Bradley Lost His Faith? "I've made my choice," wrote the young basketball star. "I love Jesus Christ and I try to serve Him to the best of my ability. How about you?" Who is this--David Robinson of the San Antonio Spurs? It may surprise you to learn the tract was written 30 years ago by former Senator Bill Bradley. Bradley has since renounced his Christian beliefs,and his actions are a warning of the perils of political expediency--and of not holding our fellow believers accountable. The pamphlet, titled "I've Made My Choice," was published in the 1960s by the American Tract Society when Bradley was a rookie with the New York Knicks. In it, BRADLEY RECOUNTS HOW HE HAD ACCEPTED CHRIST while a student at Princeton. "I knew I had been giving my life to the wrong goals," he wrote. "I knew then that I wanted to give my life to Jesus Christ and His service." Not anymore, it appears. In his 1996 memoirs, Bradley says he was put off by the exclusive truth claims of fundamentalist Christianity. He was also bothered by the uncharitable attitudes and racism displayed by some Christians. Bradley now disavows his Christian beliefs and,according to "Investor's Business Daily," says he "now embraces all religions" from Buddhism to Islam, so long as they seek "inner peace." These are chilling words from a man who was once very active in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. It appears that he has either renounced his faith entirely--or he has decided, for political reasons, to renounce it publicly. Now, since I believe that a person once saved is always saved, I have to conclude that either Bradley was not truthful in his earlier testimony, or that this is purely a political move--that deep down, Bill Bradley does know the truth. Bradley's story is a cautionary tale, not just for Christians who go into politics, but for all of us. HERE WAS A MAN WHO WAS CONVERTING OTHERS TO CHRIST, and somewhere along the line, he got off the rails. It's a warning that we need to constantly keep ourselves fresh in the faith, to attend discipleship classes, and to hold one another accountable. It's a cautionary tale, as well, as to what the political system does to candidates. It does seem to reward politicians for turning their backs on unfashionable commitments, like Christian faith or pro-life positions. As for Bradley, I hope and pray he will to reconsider the words that he himself wrote in that long-ago tract: "The choice is simple. It is between the eternal and the passing, between the strong and the weak . . . between Jesus Christ and the world." -------------------------------------------------- So how do we explain a senario like this, and other like senarios of other individuals? Your comments will be highly regarded In Christ zach† |
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119 | Is sanctification a joint effort? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34734 | ||
Benjamite Once again I need to say, I am enjoying this discussion with you. So I hope you forgive me for asking more questions, which continue to help me collect my thoughts. Concerning the maturity part of the life of a believer, I think you will agree that growing in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus takes time, which is to say it too is a process. When we are born again, we are not born as mature Christian's but as spiritual babes in Christ. And a baby needs time to grow and mature. New-borns need milk and are unable to chew meat. They crawl instead of walk or run. But give them time and they begin to mature. The same can be said of fruit. Fruit begins with a bud, advances to become a flower, then appears the young fruit. But it is not mature, it needs to be watered and exposed to the sun, before it can be said to be ready to harvest. So we too need to be watered and our exposure is to the Son. Let me throw out a Tozer quote that may relate to this. Tozer said: "To any who might object that we cannot fashion ourselves, that God alone can fashion us, we offer this explanation: A young man decides he wants the benefits of a healthy tan. Now, does he tan himself or does the sun tan him? Of course the answer is that he tans himself by exposing himself to the sun. He has to bring himself into contact with the sun's rays and the sun will take care of the rest. So we fashion ourselves by exposing our lives to the moulding influences. good or bad, that lie around us. I would appreciate your further comments In Christ† |
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120 | Is sanctification a joint effort? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34732 | ||
Searcher; I find it interesting that you state that the work of sanctification is entirely a work of God. Are you referring to positional sanctification or progressive sanctification or both? Then you stated that you believe that the Bibical commands to holiness and perfection involve joint effort on the part of God and the believer This would lead me to ask 1) How would you define sanctification, and 2) how would you define holiness and perfection In Christ zach† |
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