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361 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 147622 | ||
Hello Merv, One more time...neither the 10 commandments nor the remaining law of Moses had been given yet. Because of your stubborn refusal to listen to sound doctrine, I am drawing this debate to a close. Steve |
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362 | Hank - Doctrine from God or Man ? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 147549 | ||
Hello Merv, I never said that we shouldn't rest from our daily labors. My point is that it isn't a command. Steve |
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363 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 147546 | ||
Hello Merv, We are not discussing the woman taken in adultery. Please stay on topic. "Repenting is one thing but the evidence of a repentant heart is to 'do' what God 'requires'. Very plain and clear !!!!" Amen. Again you argue from what is not written. Perhaps if you stayed with what is clearly written, you might learn. Steve |
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364 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 147545 | ||
Hello Merv, I do not have a problem saying that men rested on the sabbath day. My problem is that no law was given to keep the sabbath until the Mosaic Law. You must look at the commandments of the Lord in respect to when they were given. Steve |
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365 | Hank - Doctrine from God or Man ? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 147419 | ||
Hello Merv, "God gave it as a blessing !!!! Heb. 4 clearly says 'There remains a Sabbath rest'." Yes, and if you read the context, it says nothing about a day of the week. The whole point of Heb. 4 is the rest we have in Christ. Steve |
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366 | Acts commentary recommendation? | Acts | srbaegon | 147328 | ||
Hello Huron, The paperback is the one that is recommended. I didn't know about the hardcover. Steve |
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367 | jcsav, Meaning of Jesus silenced them? | John 3:5 | srbaegon | 147314 | ||
Hello jcsav, You had said in a previous post: "Look back over the Old Testament. It amazes me that they knew that Elisha, or the Prophet. Would indeed baptise." And later you said: "That was the point that I was trying to make with Searcher, and that was, that the Jews understood baptism. I have not figured it out yet, how did they used the Old testament, to figure that out." No where in the thread did you give the Old Testament verses to back your statements. I just looked. Would you please give them? Also, how does Mal 3:3 pertain to this? It says nothing about baptism. Steve |
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368 | jcsav, Meaning of Jesus silenced them? | John 3:5 | srbaegon | 147251 | ||
Hello jcsav, The forum guidelines state that answers are to be supported with Scripture. I'm simply asking that you follow the guidelines. If you have not figured something out, then you appear not to have the support required. Steve |
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369 | jcsav, Meaning of Jesus silenced them? | John 3:5 | srbaegon | 147160 | ||
Hello jcsav, Certainly, the 1st-century Jews understood baptism. If you "have not figured it out yet," you should not post it as a fact. Perhaps you should have asked those on this forum how the Jews knew about baptism. Steve |
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370 | jcsav, Meaning of Jesus silenced them? | John 3:5 | srbaegon | 147151 | ||
Hello jcsav, How did they know that Elisha or the Prophet would baptize? I can't find the Scripture for that. Steve |
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371 | jcsav, what believers are not saved? | James 2:19 | srbaegon | 147150 | ||
Hello jcsav, Not one item given speaks of believers doing these things, yet you attribute them to believers. Why? Steve |
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372 | Do you have to know Christ? | Eph 2:8 | srbaegon | 146716 | ||
Hello BankruptandBrokenNext, You said: "the answer is no you don’t 'have to know Christ', but as sure as hell fire and brimstone Jesus must identify your soul as a part of his body." Would you clarify your response? I'm missing something. Steve |
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373 | Do you have to know Christ? | Rom 1:20 | srbaegon | 146655 | ||
Hello BradK, Sadly, there are evangelicals who are in print as believing that those who never hear the gospel will get into heaven based on their life practice. Steve |
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374 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 146434 | ||
Hello Merv, And what law(s) did Abraham have? Not the Mosaic law which was to come. Rather he had some very specific laws: Leave his country (Gen 12:1) Look at what I'm giving you (Gen 13:14) Walk through the land (Gen 13:17) Gather animals (Gen 15:9) Walk before me and be blameless (Gen 17:1) You shall be circumcised (Gen 17:11,26) Do as Sarah tells you (concerning Hagar) (Gen 21:12) Offer Isaac as a burnt offering (Gen 22:2) That's enough for now. There were a few others (like it's acceptable to eat meat and avenge one murdered) that I haven't included but certainly could. There is simply no law stating that anyone could not eat an unclean animal before the Mosaic law. There is no commandment written. I don't have to explain Is 65:4. God already did it, and I've shared those verses with you. I simply accept them at face value. My argument is not illogical because it's based on what the text states. Your argument is based on the conception that a law made mandatory for Jews only is somehow applicable universally--even before it was mandated! That is simply poor exegesis and will not be tolerated. Steve |
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375 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 146430 | ||
Hello Merv, By your reasoning then, we should all convert to vegeterian in order to serve the Lord longer. You go first. I have never seen a law before that given by Moses where a sacrifice was required to atone for sin. Could you give me chapter and verse on that please, since you seem to know it. What I do see is that sacrifices were given for both sin and worship. But again, I don't see a law. No verse says that Peter sat down and had pork for dinner. True enough. But when a fellow apostle says you're living like a Gentile (he doesn't say Gentile Christian), then I'm convinced because a typical Gentile eats unclean meat. And what were the Gentiles commanded to do? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Nothing more was required. Steve |
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376 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 146360 | ||
Hello Merv, I did not say that "Cain did not know it was wrong to kill." And diet laws were given to man, just not the ones state. Steve |
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377 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 146165 | ||
Hello Merv, I did not say there was no law before Moses. I'm saying the law of Moses was not yet in effect. God had indeed given laws, commands, etc. to follow before Moses. "Another thing is the Jesusalem council did not mention the 10 comm. so gentiles are not obligated to keep them." I agree completely with this. "How is a God to judge them wicked without a standard?" Why were the people judged in the flood? Gen 6:5 (ESV) The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. Why was Sodom judged? Ezek 16:49-50 (ESV) Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it. So to respond, I see God being able to judge them for their rejection of his revelation, but more than that for their pride and arrogance. Cain had the same problem. "I still think your rationale for debate is just to suit your position" I think the same of your rationale. Steve |
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378 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 146134 | ||
Hello Merv, "Makes no sense. Our stomachs are the same from Adam to now !!" By the same logic, we could not eat meat at all. That can't be the reason. "If you agree Cain and Abel knew difference between clean/unclean then explain why God could not have unclean sacrifices." I can't. I don't know the criteria until I read the Mosaic law which Cain/Abel did not have. "Their faith in that system of laws atoned for their sins." No! Faith in God is what atones for sin (Gen 15:6). Faith in a system is righteousness based on works. Concerning Peter, he knew exactly what things were clean and unclean both in regard to diet and Gentile interaction. But as I said, he lived as a Gentile amongst the Gentiles, not as a Jew amongst the Gentiles. "And yes the covenant was given as soon as he told Abram to come out of his country. But it must have taken alot of faith for Abram to do this !!" Amen! "But these errors above do not change that the covenant was given to Abraham prior to Sinai." Yes, the covenant of promised based on faith was given. "When [Gentiles] believed in Jesus as Saviour they would know that there life had to change according to how God wants us to be the Light of the World." I agree, the question is, "In what way does it change?" Steve |
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379 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 146130 | ||
Hello Merv, "The scriptural evidence is in Lev. / Deut." Precisely, therefore nobody in Genesis was bound to it. "Although they did not have the sacrificial system as the people of Israel but they obviously had been instructed by God as to what he wanted done to show atonement for there sin." This is an assumption. (BTW, I don't disagree, I just bring this up as a statement of fact. It's unprovable.) "The law that governed atonement for sin was the 'law of sacrifices and offerings' or 'ceremonial law' or 'law of Moses'." If I understand what you wrote then: law of sacrifices equals ceremonial law equals law of Moses. I cannot agree with that. The law of Moses is everything given to Moses, not just a part. "God wrote the 10 commandments with His own finger." Twice even. What patience! "The Mosaic law which listed the sacrificial laws was written by Moses and inspired by God. The covenant with Israel was made to the entire people therefore they needed a law to govern them all. God dealt with the people prior to Sinai on a individual basis. The laws to Israel were specific to Israel that is why God took away the sacrificial laws at the cross and are not binding on the Gentile or Jewish Christians now." Agreed. :-) But I would ask why you only include the sacrificial laws. There were others regarding disease, dress, hygiene, etc. Were any of these put away as well? "But the diet is given to man not Israel." I partially agree. God gave Adam, Noah, and Moses dietary laws. Those to Adam and Noah would be to all men. The one to Moses could only be for Israel. Steve |
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380 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 146128 | ||
Hello Merv, 1) I should have added this verse to back my reasoning: Rom 5:13 (ESV) for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Because God had not yet given the commandment about murder Cain, though guilty of sin, it could not be counted against Cain. It had to be dealt with differently. 2) Total agreement. :-D 3) I haven't dealt with unclean being detestable to God because that is not stated until the Mosaic law. As background, I follow an historical, grammatical approach to Scripture. Basically, I look at what was said, when it was said, where it is in relation to other things being said, etc. This is why I argue so strongly that one cannot take the Mosaic law and superimpose it on anyone in Genesis. You have to look at what God revealed to his people at the moment or prior. Steve |
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