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1241 | Non-denominational theology? | John 3:16 | justme | 65102 | ||
Lionstrong: I think you are attempting to say that God is in control. The ultimate protector of the Word is is the Word refered to in John 1:1. We agree not because og what we say. We agree because "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away." Thuss says the Lord in at least three places. Excellent point. God still uses man to accomplish His will, regardless His desires will be done. I am yours to use as you see fit. That is my prayer. God bless. justme |
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1242 | Why make endless quotes? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 65098 | ||
Searcher: has anyone ever really given it much of a try? I wonder if many read these long quotes? I am always in agreement of quoting Scripture. I would rather read what the person feels about the author said. That shows me they can read as well as type. Thanks for your input. | ||||||
1243 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | justme | 65097 | ||
Gracefull: I am willing to dialogue with you, but let us agree to show respect and kindnerss. I have never heard of anyone from the Faith Movement who read Christianity in Crisis all the way through. Yet, I have read the material suggested to me all the way, even if I found it totally wrong. I have learned what the other person believes and can dialogue with full knowledge of their thinking. I have gained much. Perhaps you might reconsider knowing more now. Benny Hinn has changed stories and theology many times. In order to be a prophet ones forthtelling must be accurate. Right? Has not Benny Hinn said many things that have NOT come to pass? Has he raised even one person from the dead? Have you witnessed, or anyone seen Jesus Christ standing on stage with Benny Hinn? Yet, Benny Hinn foretold specfic times and places that these events were to happen. They did not! Benny Hinn is a false prophet! At least by what the Bible says. Correct? Kenneth Hagen clains to have personally been with Jesus in bodly form and received the formula for faith. Supposedly, like when John wrote Revelation. The formula Jesus gave Hagen for faith boils down to; Do it, Receive it, and tell others of it. Have you read Hagens books? Do you see anything that is not in line with Scripture? Hagen is not the only Word of Faith leader to claim they have had visitations from Jesus. Sometime the revelation is even contradictory. Does that sound like truth to you? Robert Tilton was such a person who had a differening formula experience. Tilton has had legal problems that has brought shame to even a heathen ENROD bookeeper. I am fairly sure that no matter what I would add, could change what you think about the Faith Movement. Am I not correct? If you believe that the Faith Movement is in line with Orthodox Christianity then you have not done a comparison study. The Faith movement has more in common with the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses, and Christian Scientists than mainline Christianity. The Faith Movement leaders deny the Holy Trinty, which I am sure you will say it just is not so. But do you research it is. These Faith Movement basic doctrines are not in line with Biblical doctrine. When these men make a mistake then they are held to a much higher accountability! No teacher/preacher has any reason as to so misdirect their followers. Benny Hinn said women once gave birth out of their sides! Do you believe that? This is more than nonbiblical it is pure stupidity! How do you suppose Hinn thinks things changed so drasticly? Eveloution perhaps? Do you believe such a thing? Yes I have studied the Faith Movement and I pray that this will serve as an awakening, that what you have placed you faith in, is not that of which the Bible speaks. I respect your right to believe anyway you want. I have taken the time to be kind and show you just a few errors. You will never have answer to me about your belief. Someday you will stand before the Lord, and answer to Jesus not what you believed about the Faith Movement, but are you one of His sheep. justme |
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1244 | Who did Cain marry to have children? | Genesis | justme | 65089 | ||
Robertmm3: Welcome to the Forum! You are correct about Cain. With not knowing how many years had taken place from the exit of the garden, Cain could have even married a cousin, or niece. However I find no Biblical justification that God created others as He Adam and Eve. This would really amount to some unexplained matters. For instance did they too sin in a different garden? Would that not conflict with the record in Genisis? Should you have any Biblical basis for your presumption I would like to know of where you draw such a conclusion? Good to have you with us. justme |
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1245 | Non-denominational theology? | John 3:16 | justme | 65087 | ||
Lionstrong. You make several good points. However, who was it that decided which books would be in th cannon? Was it not the early church fathers? I think if it were not for the early church fathers, and their endless tiresome work, we not have a Bible to study from. There are some very important issues they dealt with that we have concrete grounds to stand on now. True they are not the Bible but they support the Bible in ways that if they had not, we might be floundering today on the Bible's meaning. justme |
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1246 | Where does this story come from? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 65084 | ||
Edb: You are correct, "braking the leg" story has been a preachers story, and I have yet to find the source. I think a lamb with a broken leg would more than likely wind up as dinner. The extra work required to keep such a wounded sheep going would use more time than a shepherd could manage. I refered the person to the book to see how much a shepherd really does do, with no fiction added. I had a shepherd in one church I pastored. I learned much from the shepherd and the sheep as well. Goats are more independant and require less constant attention. They will come to others voices, and can turn on their caregiver. I think there is a message here. justme |
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1247 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | justme | 65081 | ||
gracefull: Please see my note to you written to you at 11:18 today. I think that will pretty well explain what one cult is. If as you say in your note above, than I would think if you are part of the Word of Faith movement you have some choices to make. I am concerned that you may think you believe one way but in reality Word of Faith is something very different. I hope you receive this in kindness as this is what I am sending it in. justme |
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1248 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | justme | 65080 | ||
gracefull: I will use end notes in quoting some leaders, ministers, and evangelists. "Satan conqured Jesus on the Cross"1. "Your not looking at XXXXXX XXXXXXX-you're at God. You' looking at Jesus." 2. "Never, ever go to the Lord and say,'If it be thy will,,,' Don't allow such faith-destroying words to be spoken from your mouth." 3. "God has to be given permission to work in this earth realm on behalf of man....Yes! You are in control! So,if man has control, who no longer has it? God." 4. "Man was created on terms of equality with God, and he could stand in God's presence without any consciousness of inferiority." 5. 1. Kenneth Copland. 2. Morris Cerullo. 3.Benny Hinn. 4. Fredrick K.C. Price. 5. Kenneth Hagen. These quotes were taken fron Christianity in Crisis, by Hank Hanegraaff. Harvest House Punlishers 1993. page 11. Now I ask you are these words of the Holy Spirit? These words contradict Scripture! All these men claim to be speaking by the Holy Spirit. Are they? These men are not in what we call "orthodoxy" of the Christian faith. These men have proven to be false prophets, especially Benny Hinn! The Word of Faith Movement is a cult! Yet these false teachers lead many astray because Christians do not know the scriptures. May I use your exact words, back to you. "This is more the reason for the division among Christians than seekers who do not accept doctrine without examination in light of the Holy Spirit." I would add, In guidance of understanding the correctness of the Scripture. The men listed above are just but a few who preach a false gospel. The sad thing is so many Biblical ignorant Christians fall into the Word of Faith movement. I pray the true LIGHT will shine on you. justme |
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1249 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | justme | 65076 | ||
FTimA: The early Church baptized face down. Some baptized three times! Once for the Father, then the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ. Why have we changed? In Some churches only ordained ministers can baptize, at least the SBC churches I pastored did. Is this scriptual? Again you connect baptism with salvation. I will respect you right to believe so. I only wish you would do the same for me and others. You are comitted to bring baptism up in every note you have written me. Please, I do not want to discuss Baptism as a part of salvation with you again as you are unable to dialogue, only argue the issue. I Hope you never visit a dying person in the hospital and they want to come to Christ and be saved. Would you say too bad you did not get baptized! You are doomed for hell? I would, and have, sprinkled a person, saying it was a symbol of baptism. My understanding of salvation is by GRACE and Faith are we saved not of anything I can do! I asked you all these list of questions to let you see the list of requirements can become so long that the person might never be Saved if all the things, some think, are required come about. Just to change the subject, what about foot washing? How do you believe about that? Did not Jesus tell us to follow His example? justme |
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1250 | Non-denominational theology? | John 3:16 | justme | 65074 | ||
Lionstrong: Your point is exactlly what I was saying. Everyone has a theology. Even nonbelievers have a theology. Non-denominationalists as far as I am concerned, do not have a "theology of nondenominationlisn" I pointed out that the church we attend, even though they say they are non-denominational are most certianly tied or bound together, if in no other way, than to be gathered in the same belief of non-denomination. When Pastors must be acceped by a group of non-denominational pastors, that proves they have a tie that binds. I am only stating it as I see it, and I am sure others would strongly disagree with my statement. Our pastor is a Didpensational Premillennialists. Although he is not dogmatic, and does point out differing views, he is one that does a lot of counting of weeks in Daniel and Revelation, and connecting of other books and verses. He is polite and listens to differing views and I consider his teachings from his view point, worth listening to and consideration. I see flaws in all end time views. I doubt that any one theory has is all nailed down. I would say as Hank Hanegraaff, that I am a work in progress. Last week Hank had Gary DeMar on, I heard enough that I have ordered his books on end time theology. I would like to really know what he thinks. I like to look out side the box, as it were. The verse you use is the key to understanding the good news. What matters if we are for or against denominations if we have not made Christ Lord? God bless you brother. justme |
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1251 | Believing in the Bible | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 65027 | ||
prayon: The Bible code has some very serious problems. Hank Hanegraaff at equip.org and on Hanks radio progran THE BIBLE ANSWER MAN have challenged this so called CODE. From those who seem to be far more knowledgeable, have said it is a hoax. They say the facts as presented do not line up and can not be duplicated. Grant Jeffries is not someone that has proven his code to be crediable, with genuine expert Bible scholars of any crediable institution or person justme. We do not need to make up codes to prove the Bible or that God does exist! Using the Dead Sea Scrools is evidence that is trust worthy and has proven to be accurate by even the most sincere doubters. We can prove that Biblical history is accurate to even colaberate Ceaser and Cleopatra. The list is limitless, with proven textual sources. We do not have to resort to unproven, and doubtfull codes that are doubtfull at best. Lets not go back to Y2K and get all excited over what amounted to making some Christians look rather foolish. In the world today we Christians need to shine as beacons of truth not flash in the pan theories. |
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1252 | Explanations of difficult verses | NT general Archive 1 | justme | 65016 | ||
FTimA: In water Baptism, should the person face down or up? sould the water be deep or have the person kneel and pour water on them? Where in the Bible does it tell us these things? When was the Saved theif n the cross next to Jesus baptized? Does the water need to be river water, lake water, or what kind of water does the Bible say? Who is allowed to baptize someone else? The ordained only? These questions I can find no answer for. Can you enlighten me? justme |
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1253 | Non-denominational theology? | John 3:16 | justme | 65013 | ||
This si deffinatly not the case for a lot of other non-denominational churches. Calvary Chapel is not this way at all. When ever we say that all of what we have experienced represents the whole or total of a certian kind of anything, we are in error. justme |
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1254 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | justme | 65009 | ||
Mbooker: May I suggest equip.org as a sound doctrine and theology place to get sone added information. Graceful in ignorance, I hope, refered you to a cult web site that has s large amount of false teachers that it sponsers. May God guide you. justme |
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1255 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | justme | 65008 | ||
Gracefull: I went to the web site you reccomended. Mya I suggest you read CHRISTIANITY IN CRISIS by Hank Hanergraaff. If you read this there would be no way you would refer anyone to this site. If you want go to equip.org and you can gain some real insight into men like Kenneth Copland, Benny Hinn, Morris Cerullo and the word of faith cult. I am assuming you are ignorant of these men. I hope this awakens you to the false doctrine these men are spreading. justme |
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1256 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | justme | 65007 | ||
EdB: I went to the web site:-( This is a good place for people who are Kennith Coplandites and the cult that he and others have spauned. I would say STAY AWAY FROM IT! justme |
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1257 | What did Jesus write in the sand? | John 8:6 | justme | 64958 | ||
EdB:-) Good to hear from you! This passage has endless possibilities. You are so correct maybe Jesus did nothing but doodling. I have no real idea how awesome it would been just to be anywhere near Him. That experience alone of just getting a glimps of Jesus would be life changing, I am sure. I know you are not an arguing type of brother, and I appreciate you input, always! Feel free to share your thoughts with me anytime. How else can we grow and know each other unless we dialogue with each other? Besides what we don't get talked out here, maybe sometime in the Lords presence Jesus may just tell us what He did write if anything. Thank you for sharing this with me. justme |
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1258 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | justme | 64821 | ||
Hank: Christ is impossible to divide. Believers can and do divide, into their own belief systems of theology. I have no problems with having denominations, having been in four different denominations myself. I appreciate the way the Southern Baptist Denomation sends out their missionaries with full support and not having to beg for funding. I disliked re-baptizing believers that were not baptized as Sourthern Baptist. When I was serving a Consertive Baptist Association church, there were some wonderful efforts they made that I saw that the others did not. They have as great interest in summer camps for youth, and make them very affordable, and often paid the kids way. American Baptist are more social issues oriented, and have a higher education requirement of their clergy. Some churches have closed communion, which I respect, but do not agree with. These are no reasons to be deviceive with one another. I am think you get the point I am trying to make. These are small issues, and for many, this still does not stop fellowship. However, when anyone says that they are the only complete absolute Chruch of Christ, and unless you are in this group then you are lost; is this not dividing Christ in the ultimate negative way? This was to whom I am refering to "denomiation members have such a narrow view". I was attempting not to mention a specfic denomination. I was under the impression we were not to mention negative remarks about specfic named denomination. When later I saw that the Church of Christ was named, I perhaps should have been more specfic. My statement was too broad, and left my remark open to misunderstanding. I see your point and thank you for asking me to justify my position. I refer often to Galations 5:6 at the end where it says "The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love." That certianly means, at least for me, in my mind and words, that the CHURCH OF CHRIST far exceeds any denomination or non-denomination group that calls then self whatever they so choose, as long as they are genuine believers in Jesus Christ. Should I have offend you, or anyone else please except my apology. I am sure as my wife says I must have had a "senior moment". I enjoy the Forum and I am feel now, I was rather insensitive, that I may have sent the wrong meaning of the message I was trying convay. I thank you for taking the time to invest your wisdom in me. God bless you Hank. justme |
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1259 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | justme | 64646 | ||
mbooker: I believe we need to be aware that the words we express on the Forum ar read by anyone. I remind us all that by our love others will know that we are Christians. Let us thank the Lord for His Word, not me. justme |
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1260 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | justme | 64644 | ||
FTimA: Thank you for your respectfull response. I am encouraged that you want to dialogue, and are asking, rather than telling. That for me represents kindness and openess toward others. I would agree that when Jesus assended into heaven there was only one true church. In Acts we see Paul and Barnabus had such disagreement that they left one onothers company. Which one then represented the true church? As time went on we see others who differed in some not so small issues. 2002 years later we have many believers, and differing beliefs. But the same Lord Jesus regins over all. Does he not? I am a believer in Jesus Christ first. I attend the church I do to worship. I am sure that not all believers in my church believe exactly like me. I am convienced that I am sure of my Biblical belief is true. However, I am willing to listen to others to know what they believe for the sake of defending my faith, or seeing the errors I might have. I will be right up front with you. Hank is the webmaster. Lockman has personally choosen him for this position. Hank has my respect and loyality. Not because Lockman says so. Hank has proven himself to be a genuine loving respectfull, Elder brother in the Lord. For me to be subject to Hanks authority, and have my respect and loyality he earned it. To gain respect you must understand time is the test that proves if someone is worthy of this honor. I sincerely hope you take my words in the kindness they are offered. I think you were offensive. I know Hank well enough to say he is fair and would accept an applogy that is offered with genuiness. I hope this is a growing experience for you. We all make mistakes, and growth is painful. No one finds asking for restoration easy. My best to you. justme |
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