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641 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | jlhetrick | 156456 | ||
Hi Mark, This is a great question, thanks for asking it. I would like to comment while we wait on Humbled to respond. Again I think that context can help us understand the Pope's comments. I realize you are asking for an opinion (what is thought) of the statement and agree that opinion is really all any of us can offer. I looked at the quote in context with the immediate statements before and after the statement you quoted. "This is why love for Sacred Scripture is so important, and in consequence, it is important to know the faith of the Church which opens up for us the meaning of Scripture. It is the Holy Spirit who guides the Church as her faith grows, causing her to enter ever more deeply into the truth" The Pope here seems to be putting special emphasis on "love for sacred scripture." He also emphasizes that it is the "Holy Spirit who guides the church as her faith grows." He also atributes to the Holy Spirit as being the "cause" of the church "entering more deeply into the truth." With this in mind, It may be that the Pope has Romans 10:17 in mind. Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Wish we knew for sure what he meant. Jeff |
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642 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | jlhetrick | 156473 | ||
Hi bro. Mark, No, I don't think your all wet. You may be very accurate about your conclusion regarding the Pope's intent. I am not convinced of it but I concede that your presentation and rational certainly support your thought. The one thing in your argument that does give particular support to your conclusion is that: "his words are telling us that we need the Catholic Church to interpret the Bible for us. That is fully in line with other things the Catholic Church has said." I think it is the position of the Roman Catholic Church regarding it's self-proclaimed position of authority that has lead to this thread in the first place. Again, I preach context, but I did not include the wider context of the RCC's position on it's own authority which is important. But with that said, I want to point back to the actual words of the Pope and say that I don't come to the same conclusion that you have for the reasons I gave in my previous post. Now, I also do not disagree with any argument you make. And we are back to the dilemma of being only able to speculate. I'm interested in more dialouge on this topic. Jeff |
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643 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | jlhetrick | 156486 | ||
Hi Mark, I hear ya! I don't think the Pope is a member of this forum. I bet he does have an email address though. Jeff |
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644 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | jlhetrick | 156532 | ||
Hi Victor, Yep, I read the Domatic Constitution on Devine Revelation. Thaks for the link. You are abaolutely right. It's all right there. It's obvious from reading it what the Pope had to have meant. So the bottom line is, on the surface, taking the words of the Pope at face value, there is nothing inappropriate stated (my opinion). Taken in context with what the RCC claims as it's role in revealing God's truth (which I see happens to only INCLUDE the scriptures)it does become obvious what the Pope meant. HUMMMM. Do I smell wool? Is that sheeps clothing he is wearing? Thanks for the link, Jeff |
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645 | weaker and wiser | 2 Cor 13:4 | jlhetrick | 172741 | ||
Makes sense to me too. Did you have specific you were looking in to that brought this question to mind, or was that the main question? Jeff |
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646 | weaker and wiser | 2 Cor 13:4 | jlhetrick | 172763 | ||
OK, great! That's a responsible approach that more should adopt. Jeff |
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647 | spirtual seed? | Gal 3:28 | jlhetrick | 170228 | ||
John, Don't be discouraged. Just because someone doesn't get your point doesn't mean you didn't do a sufficient job in making it. In this case, thank you for holding true to the gospel of Jesus christ, without wich, no man Jew or Gentile can be saved. If another would dare to preach a different gospel, well, may God have mercy on that ones sole. Jeff |
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648 | spirtual seed? | Gal 3:28 | jlhetrick | 170256 | ||
Hello WOS, No, I am not insinuating anything of the kind. I was simply supporting John in his standing firm regarding salvation by grace through Jesus Christ. There is no other salvation; there is also no teaching in scripture that indicates that any individual will be saved as a result of his or her race, ethnicity, tribe, or nationality. Speaking specifically to your posts, however, you did point out the unity of believers, Jew and Gentile alike. But after that your tone tended to lean more toward distinguishing a difference between Jews and Gentiles. You and others seemed to have gone on a kind of impulsive frenzy that served to separating and distinguishing “Jews” as a people to be revered. If they have any special place in history, and they do, it is because of the work God has done to, in, and through them. The glory is all His and belongs to no man or race of men nor to a nationality of men. This is not to say that I did not and do not agree with many of the comments that were made. Also, I recognize that many of the comments were simply made to demonstrate or elaborate on just how God has in fact blessed the nation of Israel. Still, the thread quickly took on a tone of reverence for the “Jews” rather than one of reverence for the grace and holy plan of God. This, in fact, is the mistake the nation of Israel made regarding themselves in biblical times. What does the bible say regarding the Jews and salvation. Much, but here is a specific passage that states it plainly. Act 4:10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead--by him this man is standing before you well. Act 4:11 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. Act 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." PS. If we all try to get in the habit of actually answering direct questions with direct answers (myself included), much of the debate we have on the forum would be unecessary. It sometimes appears that people are not secure in their belief's and therefore will not state plainly what they believe. "what if I'm wrong?" If we are off track or dead wrong in what we believe, it is better to have it stated plainly so that others can redirect us and help us toward a better understanding. For me, I am approaching closer and closer to a place where my pride is taking a back seat. I am more eager to state my belief's plainly in order to have them confirmed or adjusted in light of the truth. Christ's love, Jeff |
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649 | spirtual seed? | Gal 3:28 | jlhetrick | 170285 | ||
Hello WOS, Thanks for stating your position so plainly. We are in total agreement on this issue apparently. Also, thanks for all that you contribute to the forum. I always enjoy your post and you are one of those on the forum who regularly challenge me to think. Christ's Love, Jeff |
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650 | So HOW do you walk in the Spirit ? | Gal 5:16 | jlhetrick | 150855 | ||
JCrichton (Angel) Very good response (not that the others aren't as well). We need to really encourage other christians, especially new christians, the importance of approaching scripture in context. |
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651 | How to follow, walk in the Spirit? | Gal 5:16 | jlhetrick | 211766 | ||
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652 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | jlhetrick | 201721 | ||
Thanks everyone for your feedback. I was just about to complete a rather lengthy response back when my computer bugged out on me and shut down leaving me to start from scratch. I will keep this one short as it is getting late. I'm going to tag on here since it's currently the last post. I'm sorry that my question lead to some apparent conflict and also that the thread has taken on a different focus than I had intended (but that is sometimes unavoidable on the forum). Keeping it short, and hopefully simple, let me start by agreeing with you Val. Thanks for encouraging me to do my own in-depth study. Sometimes that is an appropriate response. In this case, yes, I have done the study and have a sound, biblical understanding regarding the answer to my question (before I posted it). With that said, let me respectfully encourage you to respond with more than a single verse that in and of itself does not answer the question. I can’t speak for WOS but I believe that he was at least in part trying to make that point and not to offend. It wasn't a trick question by any means, but instead, one asked to encourage thought on the subject. When I read the note at work I instantly knew the statement was not based on biblical principal. My problem was that I was not expediently prepared to answer from which philosophical persuasion the idea originated. Interestingly enough Doc (if your reading along) your response to me was very close to word for word how I responded in my own typed response to the poster at work. So the purpose of my posting the question was to call attention to how these seemingly right statements infiltrate even the thinking and theology of Christians (consider the whole “eye for an eye” misconstruction); and to encourage thought on how we as Christians might handle them when confronted with them in our day to day business (1Peter 3:15). Finally, to address my own original question I’ll just call attention to a couple of points. Vengeance belongs to the God (Deut. 32:35, Ro 12:19, Heb 10:30). God is just (Deut. 32:4). Thanks again to all who responded. Jeff |
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653 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | jlhetrick | 201723 | ||
WOS- got it, thanks and good points. It is a process isn't it..... | ||||||
654 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | jlhetrick | 201732 | ||
Brother- thanks for the comments. Exactly why I posted the question; the note at work put my thinking to work. My wife and I also had a bit of discussion about it. God bless, Jeff |
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655 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | jlhetrick | 201831 | ||
Val- sorry for the late response. I don't get a chance to check my email or the forum daily and even then can't respond to everything. To your question - yes absolutely. This might be helpful: Vengeance - "punishment inflicted in retaliation for an injury or offense, retribution" retribution- retribuere to pay back, fr. retribuere to pay — more at tribute] 14c 1 : recompense, reward 2 : the dispensing or receiving of reward or punishment esp. in the hereafter 3 : something given or exacted in recompense esp : punishment Both definitions taken from Merriam-Webster (2003). Hope this is helpful. God bless, Jeff |
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656 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | jlhetrick | 201836 | ||
Hi Val! No I don't. Retribution/vengeance speaks to act of rewarding (and where it applies to God the rewarding is always just). Reaping speaks to the receivers receiving of the reward (good or bad). Sowing speaks to the behavior of the receiver/reaper that earns the reward. Is this helping???? God bless, Jeff |
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657 | God is faithful, He's an awsome God | Ephesians | jlhetrick | 171273 | ||
Hello Ghislaine, Welcome to the forum! If you will, take the time to "Update User Info." (under Resources; bottome left of page). Let us know a little about yourself. To view personal info. about other members, left click on their username. My following comments are meant as helpful feedback and not negative criticism. The forum is designed for bible study. As you will see as you go, it is typical to ask a question and wait for replies and then get involved in ongoing dialogue. We learn from, as well as teach, others through this process. If you "flood" the forum with multiple, back-to-back postings (as typical in "Chat Rooms") it will be very hard to be engaged in the discussions started from your own post. Perhaps more likely, people will not bother to respond at all. Again, welcome to the forum. Hope to see you contributing for a long time to come, Jeff |
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658 | With Fear and Trembleing | Ephesians | jlhetrick | 208874 | ||
Doc- First of all, thank you for taking the time to read and consider the article by Greenwood. Second- thanks for pointing out some of it's blunders (I just finished reading it myself) otherwise many who are younger in the faith may end up doing what many of us have done. That is the quick building of unsound doctrine that will take much time and effort to correct later on. Of course, some will never unlearn it, or better put... replace it with the soundness of Scripture. Note to everyone reading... It's important to ensure that articles and websites we point to are sound in their doctrine. |
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659 | Believing in the Bible and E.T.'s | Eph 2:2 | jlhetrick | 164420 | ||
Hello FOE, Welcome to the forum. Your post was interesting although quite assuming. Not only regarding what others believe about aliens and why, but also about God and His creation. Perhaps I can offer some feedback that might lighten your sadness with every one here. You wrote: I find it very sad that the faith of every one here is so miniscule that you have to put God Almighty who made the heavens above in such a tiny box. I have to respond to this in the context of another one of your statements. You wrote: I admit I have studied God's great creation more than his word... These two statements, I believe, are the basic premise and reason that take the air out of your position. I don't mean that rudely. Christians, what we believe and teach, in no way put God "in a tiny Box" (as if that were possible). I believe that you and others who think this way most likely come to this conclusion unjustly. Because we don't "assume" things about God or His creation, it does not mean that we attempt to limit Him. With this said, let me encourage you to put forth more of your energy and time studying the word of God. It is great that we are able to learn much about His creation (especially with the technology of today). He did intend for us to know Him in part through what we observe of His creation, as He has made them plain to us: "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead:" Romans 1:20 Notice the statement "clearly seen". Yet you write as though you believe in the exixtance of aliens. Have you clearly seen one? If the answer is no, does this mean they don't exist? No it doesn't. But to say they do is no more than assumption and, really, what's the point? So while you encourage others to not attempt to limit God (as if we could), I encourage you to not make unfounded assumptions about Him either. If God created aliens then they exist. Your belief in them does not make them any more real as the next guys disbelief does not make them any less. What's important is what God has chosen to reveal to us and making that the primary focus of our lives. What God has chosen to reveal at this point is His word which contains all that He desires for us. Finally, with this said, I am of the opinion that it is not the one who denies aliens that "resist God" but the one who puts other things before the study of His word and before getting to know Him through the method He chose. Think it through, P.S. Our faith is not "miniscule". It is a saving faith. And it is not of ourselves, but given to us by God Himself. So please be careful when you judge another person's faith. Sincerely, Jeff |
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660 | Believing in the Bible and E.T.'s | Eph 2:2 | jlhetrick | 164421 | ||
Hello FOE, Welcome to the forum. Your post was interesting although quite assuming. Not only regarding what others believe about aliens and why, but also about God and His creation. Perhaps I can offer some feedback that might lighten your sadness with every one here. You wrote: I find it very sad that the faith of every one here is so miniscule that you have to put God Almighty who made the heavens above in such a tiny box. I have to respond to this in the context of another one of your statements. You wrote: I admit I have studied God's great creation more than his word... These two statements, I believe, are the basic premise and reason that take the air out of your position. I don't mean that rudely. Christians, what we believe and teach, in no way put God "in a tiny Box" (as if that were possible). I believe that you and others who think this way most likely come to this conclusion unjustly. Because we don't "assume" things about God or His creation, it does not mean that we attempt to limit Him. With this said, let me encourage you to put forth more of your energy and time studying the word of God. It is great that we are able to learn much about His creation (especially with the technology of today). He did intend for us to know Him in part through what we observe of His creation, as He has made them plain to us: "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead:" Romans 1:20 Notice the statement "clearly seen". Yet you write as though you believe in the exixtance of aliens. Have you clearly seen one? If the answer is no, does this mean they don't exist? No it doesn't. But to say they do is no more than assumption and, really, what's the point? So while you encourage others to not attempt to limit God (as if we could), I encourage you to not make unfounded assumptions about Him either. If God created aliens then they exist. Your belief in them does not make them any more real as the next guys disbelief does not make them any less. What's important is what God has chosen to reveal to us and making that the primary focus of our lives. What God has chosen to reveal at this point is His word which contains all that He desires for us. Finally, with this said, I am of the opinion that it is not the one who denies aliens that "resist God" but the one who puts other things before the study of His word and before getting to know Him through the method He chose. Think it through, P.S. Our faith is not "miniscule". It is a saving faith. And it is not of ourselves, but given to us by God Himself. So please be careful when you judge another person's faith. Sincerely, Jeff |
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